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LAST WARNING MEXICO SECTION MODERATORS!!!
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Surrender
IsraTrance Team
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Posted : Jul 25, 2006 02:13
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ok i havent read everything - but i really think everyone needs to calm down and get things in proportion.
firstly - this is a forum, not life - anytime someone gets really mad about something i suggest to repeat this mantra as you step away from the computer and back to reality.
now to business - this whole topic is a bit... i dont know - childish? with wild accusations that im not sure have any 'teeth'. im pretty certain that the users complaining didnt check to see if they did anything wrong before accusing the moderatiors and calling for a "revolution" making threats and conditions.
listen - if you have any problems with anything thats going on here - there are ways to do it.
here is a topic that explains the simple procedure:
http://forum.isratrance.com/viewtopic.php/topic/73169/forum/18
is it that hard to follow this pipeline? i dont think so, i dont think anyone is incapable of this here.
now to the issues at hand (from what i see) -
the accusation of deletion of posts in spanish:
why should they be left alone? why should the moderators be your translators? i know both jou and substance work very hard on this section and they certainly dont need to rewrite your spanish into english.
the accusation of caps lock posts being deleted (like this topic title): how many times have we asked not to type in caps lock? its considered shouting and therefore rude... at the start of their moderation both jou and substance rewrote posts that were in caps lock with much extra effort and time after people didnt listen to their requests. i told them after a while to simply delete those posts because its not their job to rewrite entire paragraphs for users who dont feel like following our rules...
again - if there is anything else, you now all know how to go about your complaining.
i stand firmly behind both jou and substance, i know them both personally very well and they are firstly kind and good persons, we wouldnt have taken them onboard otherwise. help them help u maintain mexico as a section- this is your dream realized, lets not make it a nightmare.
  "On the other hand, you have different fingers."
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piXan
IsraTrance Full Member
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Posted : Jul 25, 2006 07:39
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u guys chill, specially the one who opened this topic.
believe me , things like this doesnt help....at all
many things have gone wrong in the mexican scene , but focusing on the downsides and pointing fingers, isnt the answer.
this forum has sadly become a place for some people to expose their frustrations. this is not the place.
go to a shrink, beat up ur girl or overdose, but please dont bring this forum to such a low level as this thread.
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cosmic iron&psycobeat
Psycobeat
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Posted : Jul 25, 2006 09:06
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i'ts kind of cenzure like trance culture eat in israel.
i think CENZURE and Trance not walk toogeather ,so this is therebol!!!!!!!!!!!!!auauau |
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Aluxe
IsraTrance Junior Member
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Posted : Jul 25, 2006 09:34
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Yeah you may not agree with all the rules and guidelines in Isratrance, hey I am sure everybody would do things a bit different.
But keep in mind it takes a lot of work, dedication, organization and responsability to keep such a large forum functional and working as well as it does. No spam, relaible servers always keeping the site up, solid programming behind, and a nice, fast and practical layout.
I think the possibilities and positives far out number the limitations. I was also a bit annoyed at first with some of the censoring guidelines such as the no drug talk rule, but with a bit of civility I found you can still say most of the things you want. Of course, always in english, staying on topic, no caps, no picking your nose, etc.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Life is a bitch. LOL
Look at things on the bright side, we could have instead a shity forum with the owners to high on a psychedelic festival to even remember to pay for the domain names and keep in control all the issues that come up in an internet forum.
And I agree that lots of potential users only speak spanish, so the English only rule could be a big limitation to get the Mexican trance community connected here. Perhaps then this is not the place for that and a spanish psychedelic forum would be very useful. However the English only rule is very useful for keeping connected and sharing ideas with people from other countries, thats super cool. But you can't exclude the non english users from a forum that wants to represent the local scene, that would be ridiculous. I guess then that is something the Mexicans need to solve. Any programmers out there have any plans?
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mita_sabina
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Posted : Jul 25, 2006 19:04
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Im with Maldek, I mean is it so hard really, to try and make things legal?
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jou*
IsraTrance Junior Member
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Posted : Jul 25, 2006 22:13
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@ Serag ... excuse me, when and where exactly have i lacked objectivity? What is the "way of behaving" that you're looking for?
Substance and me are here to MODERATE. Not to correct childish topics that are both in Caps and Spanish and even include msn chat logs (?). Do we really need to PM every Cap/Spanish poster every time? And that being 3 or 4 times each? When is this going to end?
Why do you think it took Isratrance so long to decide on opening a Mexico forum? Obviously because it was known that problems like these were bound to happen. This is a trance forum, not some gossip blog you can find anywhere on the web. If you're not able to follow our simple guidelines what you're showing is either incapability of comprehension or simply a lack of respect.
Honestly, is it that difficult to understand the rules? Its the forums rules, not some bogus ideas Substance & me came up with to complicate your lives. If you can't follow them, you're free to open your own forum with your own rules where you can air ALL your problems. Sorry but this is not what we're aiming for here.
Serag & Egnogra...Whatever the situation you're in with promoters/artists/whateva, there's no problem with you venting out...Feel free to compose your post again in the Black List http://forum.isratrance.com/viewtopic.php/topic/87477/forum/64
But remember there's a WAY to post.
"This is your dream realized, lets not make it a nightmare." ~Surrender
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Serag
IsraTrance Junior Member
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Posted : Jul 26, 2006 00:13
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lack of respect jou*? well i would like to tell you that in life you recieve what you give.
"This is a trance forum, not some gossip blog"
sure.
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Substance/Atari.1
Substance / The Ataris
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Posted : Jul 26, 2006 00:39
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well im just glad to read most of the ppl understands whats for... as for serag well i recommend to ignore him... he enjoys making controversial talking, no need to take any care of that 
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jou*
IsraTrance Junior Member
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Posted : Jul 26, 2006 02:08
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On 2006-07-26 00:13, Serag wrote:
lack of respect jou*? well i would like to tell you that in life you recieve what you give.
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When have I not repected?
Not following guidelines is a lack of respect in my book. I was talking in general to the ppl that aren't able to follow these oh-so-simple rules... and you weren't even the one posting in Caps/Spanish, so there's no need for you to "put on the coat".
Let's not turn this in to some neverending discussion and move on with our lives.
Peace.
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Serag
IsraTrance Junior Member
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Posted : Jul 26, 2006 02:49
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everything clear now.
all cool, i agree, better.
peace too |
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jou*
IsraTrance Junior Member
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Posted : Jul 26, 2006 03:32
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Good, as long as that is settled...
Further complaints/threats can be PM'd
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