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Labels release only friends music???

makunta
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Feb 25, 2003 13:48
please to everyone..i wanna hear your opinion about a definitly problem i see in all labels...there a lot of very very good artists which canīt release anything and i donīt understand it...because the ymake definitly very good qualitiy music...if i talk to them i everytime hear the same words...labels take more the music of their friends and not look for quality of the music...every week there many of cdīs released...and if you listen to these cdīs you realize that more than the half is not good enough normaly to be released...thats not only my opinion...
why the labels donīt look for real new talents...there are many like: contact,soulipse,tantrumz,praecox,namhaj,nasa,native radio and so on..where the people are waiting to buy their albums....why always more and more sound be released which sounds same again and again....like gms,psysex,wizzy noise....it is not that i hate full on..i love this style too...but there is definitly too much music in this direction of sound..please i hope i am not alone with my opinion now...write here what albums you are waiting for...i hope the labels gonna realize that and gonna help a bit more the newcomers for releasing their music...it canīt be that it is like in djing where almost the people which make the partys only let friends play music if they can mix good or not...
respect the new talents before they wanna stop making music like i heard from a friend now...it is a shame that good talents donīt wanna produce anymore because they get no chance to release their music...peace to all           love & peace to everyone:))
PRAECOX
Bigwigs

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Posted : Feb 25, 2003 14:31
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"...thats not only my opinion...
why the labels donīt look for real new talents...there are many like: contact,soulipse,tantrumz,praecox,namhaj,nasa,native radio and so on..where the people are waiting to buy their albums..."
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..heheheh:)))hihihihi:))hohohoho:)))))!!!!!!!!!

...just to let u know a brave little soldier:)

few praecox will come soon on Zenon Rec., Digital Psionics and Pagoda Rec. hope it will satisfy u enough.

...btw, thnx for nice words

Tomek
Bigwigs

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Posted : Feb 25, 2003 14:33
the eternal question......
Nikita:Penta
Penta

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Posted : Feb 25, 2003 14:40
I should add Parus and Sektor 7G from San Francisco to the bands that should be released...
yossi
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posted : Feb 25, 2003 15:11
as far as i know... contact is already working with com.pact, soulipse r about to release soon, nasa`s trax u can find in lots of labels, and native radio is about to release something @ medijum.. i think.


and to the point.
yeah, established labels have their own team, and i can see the logical idea behind it, but there r always new labels poping out, and im sure that every1 is looking for a fresh sound 2day.

i know i am.           if you want to be rich, u`ve got to be a bitch!
DETOX
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Posted : Feb 25, 2003 18:17
If something is good it gets released.

Thats a fact.           Toodaloo Motherfuckers!!!!!
PRAECOX
Bigwigs

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Posted : Feb 25, 2003 19:56
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On 2003-02-25 18:17, DETOX wrote:
If something is good it gets released.

Thats a fact.




hahahahahaahahahahah.!!!!!!

makunta
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Feb 25, 2003 19:59
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On 2003-02-25 18:17, DETOX wrote:
If something is good it gets released.

Thats a fact.



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you donīt believe the words you say or?
why i have such a lot good quality music which never gonna be released???           love & peace to everyone:))
makunta
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Feb 25, 2003 20:00
and why a lot artists have to choose to open their own labels because they never get a chance?           love & peace to everyone:))
PRAECOX
Bigwigs

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Posted : Feb 25, 2003 20:16
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On 2003-02-25 18:17, DETOX wrote:
If something is good it gets released.

Thats a fact.




how many drops u need to know what is good to release?

1 drop = good minimal
2 drops = good progressive
35 drops = good full on
71 drops = then u know when fraktals meet shiva...
666 drops = then u meet praecox

That's a fact!

DETOX
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Posted : Feb 25, 2003 21:22
Also a fact is that artists that dont manage to release anything (plus their friends) always complain about the 'musical situation' the 'labels' the 'labels friends' and the 'music industry'.

If you have something good send it to labels and they will release it unless they are so stupid and rich and dont want to sell good music and make more profits.

An artist with not many previous releases or not releases at all that makes a label just to release his and his friends music is nothing more than an arrogant person who thinks that he is a good musician while he is not.

If something is good people sooner or later appreciate it,its just a matter of time.           Toodaloo Motherfuckers!!!!!
PRAECOX
Bigwigs

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Posted : Feb 25, 2003 21:46
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On 2003-02-25 21:22, DETOX wrote:

An artist with not many previous releases or not releases at all that makes a label just to release his and his friends music is nothing more than an arrogant person who thinks that he is a good musician while he is not.




It's unbelievable that people like you, with such an attitude towards artists sit behind desks in records labels, I hope that you are not an A&R because if it was my label, you wouldn't be working anymore. Artists start labels because they want to release music that is original, not commercial and you are not the person to judge what is good and what is not. Maybe it's you that doesn't have a clue about this. Artists want to satisfy sensitive people and not not arrogant idiots who think they have a monopoly on knowledge. Listen to people and not yourself.

Now about facts.

My polish friend Jacek Sienkiewicz (http://recognition.art.pl/), (http://www.discogs.com/artist/Jacek_Sienkiewicz )- he is re is a very good example. Jacek Sienkiewicz also know as Recognition. Nobody wanted to release his music so he set up his own label. After a few releases (Case Theory, 12" (WMF Records), Item / Microfilm, 12" (De:Bug Hartwaren), Pocket Control e.p, 12" (Trapez)) he was approached by a little known DJ by the name of Sven Vath (hope u know the big names) who offered him a 3 album deal on his Cocoon label (www.cocoon.net).

...any more questions?
Basilisk
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Posted : Feb 25, 2003 21:50
If there is anyone seriously having some trouble I can provide a possible outlet... I am compiling an album for Ektoplazm Records, a new label from Toronto, Canada. We're looking for cosmic-themed psychedelic music... if you'd like to find out more drop by the web site - http://www.ektoplazm.com

I'm usually more polite about this kind of thing but hey, it is the promotional forum after all one of our main policies is 'music from anywhere'... if its good, we'll certainly consider it. From known artists, or the unknown - the only criteria is whether its good music...

I don't see how the issue can be a problem anyhow... if there are no labels going for an artist's sound, start one. If you don't want to trouble yourself, then post your music for free on the net until you gain enough of a fan base that the labels you want to work with find your art appealing. Good luck to anyone with a trouble here...
makunta
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Feb 25, 2003 22:14
to basilisk:)
nobody i think have trouble here...

to detox:)...in my opinion it is not that this people are arrogant and think they make good music while they not do....the main problem is ...that most labels i think are afraid to produce music which is not definitly in their style...
can you tell me why 16 cdīs from 20 every week(for examble) are in full on style and 3 in housy minimal....and if you have luck there is one in dark progressive or tech style?....i know so many people (and they get more and more) which love the darker and tech tunes...but no label gonna relalize it? (only the boshke beats..lol)           love & peace to everyone:))
yossi
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posted : Feb 25, 2003 23:04
makunta... about your post.
i think we can say that the "dark-tech-trance" sence is still in his diapers. (much respect to boshke guys... but we shouldnt forget Hadshot that also delivers dark techish music, H&H, D.drum, sometimes Spirit zone, and soon us )

maybe we need to give it more time... i dont know.

any way, its kindss off topic           if you want to be rich, u`ve got to be a bitch!
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