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KENO DIKTYO: Sat. 21 May LOFOS STREFI Cultures of Resistance /Electro Acid Psy Trance Experience

Void Network
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Posted : May 13, 2011 14:21:30
KENO DIKTYO
VOID NETWORK
[Theory, Utopia, Empathy, Ephemeral Arts]
http://voidnetwork.blogspot.com

Cultures of Resistance
ELECTRO ACID PSYCHEDELIC TRANCE

SATURDAY 21 MAY 2011
starts 22.00

LOFOS STREFI / STREFIS HILL
EXARCHIA area ATHENS- GREECE

Void Network collective invites you all to a Free Festival open air Psy Trance Rave party dedicated to the international solidarity to the Indigenous Tribe of Mapuche / Chile.

The best djs from Void Network, the Athens underground and visual art collectives Global Eye from U.K. and Glass Bead Collective from U.S.A. will join forces for this benefit event to share information - awareness and ecstatic tribal dancing in solidarity to the Tribe of Mapuche people that they are in struggle for Freedom for the last 500 years.
more info about Mapuche Tribe:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mapuche

The party will start in 22.00 with short introduction to the struggle of Mapuche Tribe and short documentary.
Then after 23.00 all of us we will share some amazing space out Psychedelic Trance d.j. sets, psy visual art including images and videos from the Tribe, our best tribal dance and our best smiles sending to all this planet visions and signals of Love, Resistance, Freedom

The donations of the party will be send to the Tribe for the creation of an autonomous "piratik" radio of Mapuche Tribe...
Keep the Frequencies Free...
Let's Bring Summer in Our Hearts...
Let's Send Some Strong Message of Solidarity to the Tribes!

the History of Mapuche Tribe:
(in english)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mapuche

(info in Greek language):
http://indianoi.blogspot.com/

http://caminodelfuego.wordpress.com/2011/03/02/mapuche-ley-antiterrorist/

http://www.anarkismo.net/article/17568

more info about the Party, artists, djs, photos and links will be upload at the Void Network blog soon:
http://voidnetwork.blogspot.com

for volunteer participation to the organizing of the Psy Rave:
voidinternational@gmail.com

DR SAMMY
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Posted : May 13, 2011 18:10
Nice move guys !!!! All the best !!! ;D           * Dr.sam25@hotmail.com
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* http://www.myspace.com/drsammy25
* http://www.youtube.com/user/DRSAMMMY25
* http://www.reverbnation.com/drsammy
confo_psy

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Posted : May 13, 2011 20:21
great move....viva mapuche...!!!

cya there....
confo_psy

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Posted : May 13, 2011 20:21
The Mapuche are a group of indigenous inhabitants of south-central Chile and southwestern Argentina. They constitute a wide-ranging ethnicity composed of various groups who shared a common social, religious and economic structure, as well as a common linguistic heritage. Their influence extended between the Aconcagua River and Chiloé Archipelago and later eastward to the Argentine pampa. The Mapuche make up about 4% of the Chilean population,[1] and are particularly concentrated in Araucanía Region and due to emigration in Santiago.
The term Mapuche can refer to the whole group of Picunches (people of the north), Huilliches and Moluche or Nguluche from Araucanía, or exclusively to the Moluche or Nguluche from Araucanía. The Mapuche traditional economy is based on agriculture; their traditional social organisation consists of extended families, under the direction of a "lonko" or chief, although in times of war they would unite in larger groupings and elect a toqui (from Mapudungun toki "axe, axe-bearer") to lead them.
The Araucanian Mapuche inhabited at time of Spanish arrival the valleys between the Itata and Toltén rivers, south of it as did the Huilliche (people of the South) and the Cuncos lived as far south as to Chiloé Archipelago. In the 17th, 18th and 19th centuries, Mapuche groups migrated eastward into the Andes and pampas, fusing and establishing relationships with the Poyas and Pehuenche. At about the same time, ethnic groups of the pampa regions, the Puelche, Ranqueles and northern Aonikenk, made contact with Mapuche groups. The Tehuelche adopted the Mapuche language and some of their culture in what came to be called Araucanization.
Historically Mapuches were known as Araucanians (araucanos) by the Spanish colonizers of South America. However, this term is now mostly considered pejorative[2] by some people. The Quechua word awqa "rebel, enemy", is probably not the root of araucano: the latter is more likely derived from the placename rag ko (Spanish Arauco) "clayey water".[3][4]
While some Mapuches mingled with Spanish during colonial times giving origin to a large group of mestizos in Chile Mapuche society in Araucanía and Patagonia remained independent until the Chilean Occupation of Araucanía and the Argentine Conquest of the Desert in late 19th century. Since then Mapuches have become subjects and then nationals and citizens of the respective states. Today many Mapuche and Mapuche communities are engaged in the so-called Mapuche conflict over land and indigenous rights both in Argentina and in Chile.
Spaced-out Rastaman
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Posted : May 18, 2011 12:43
SUPER!!!!           http://www.facebook.com/pages/Acid-Waves/210623772399578?fref=ts
Void Network
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Posted : May 19, 2011 18:53
ARTISTS & TIMELINE

22.00-24.00 documentary:
The Voice of The Mapuche
http://www.thevoiceofthemapuchedocumentary.blogspot.com/
+short intro to Mapuche struggle
24.00-01.00 HIGHPNO
01.00-02.00 DR. SAMMY
02.00-03.30 NIKITAS
03.30-05.00 IRAKLIS MINDPHASER
05.00-06.00 CRYSTAL ZERO
06.00-end DJ CONFO
VoidNetwork

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Posted : May 22, 2011 00:40
THE PARTY IS GOING ON and EVERYBODY IS WELCOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!
nick_InZoMNiAC

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Posted : May 24, 2011 23:46
I didn't like the music at all ( and I am a huge fan of psychedelic trance music ... ). This music was not psychedelic at all. Maybe we should pay some tribute to oldskool psy/goa trance, as far as old stuff is concerned, and as far is modern psytrance is concerned we should play some -successful- dark psy like psykovsky,derango,battle of the future buddhas,etc ... :\

Also, it was too much of an "arpaxti"
2 euros for a beer and 1euro for a small bottle of water? Really? The beer shouldn't be more than 1-1,5 euros and ofcourse the water 50cents!

Spaced-out Rastaman
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Posted : May 25, 2011 00:46
Quote:

On 2011-05-24 23:46, nick_InZoMNiAC wrote:
I didn't like the music at all ( and I am a huge fan of psychedelic trance music ... ). This music was not psychedelic at all. Maybe we should pay some tribute to oldskool psy/goa trance, as far as old stuff is concerned, and as far is modern psytrance is concerned we should play some -successful- dark psy like psykovsky,derango,battle of the future buddhas,etc ... :

Also, it was too much of an "arpaxti"
2 euros for a beer and 1euro for a small bottle of water? Really? The beer shouldn't be more than 1-1,5 euros and ofcourse the water 50cents!






As far as the music is concerned, everyone is allowed to have his personal opinion.

However, the prices were logical, not different compared to other parties. How are the costs of the party going to be paid?
(By the way, I think that the prize of the water was 50 cents. Or I was too wasted to remember! )           http://www.facebook.com/pages/Acid-Waves/210623772399578?fref=ts
nick_InZoMNiAC

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Posted : May 25, 2011 01:43
If water was 50 cents, that means beer can was 2,50!!! I bought a beer and a water bottle for 2 euros. I was at a punk party before(polytechnio) and guess what ... beer 1 euro . And there was a box if someone wanted to donated.

DETOX
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Posted : May 25, 2011 09:00
Quote:

On 2011-05-25 00:46, Spaced-out Rastaman wrote:

How are the costs of the party going to be paid?




Do you think he actually cares about that?

Some people want everything for free and are never happy about anything,the right word i guess is TZAMPATZIDES with the bad meaning of the word. These people are better to stay to their homes along with their bad vibes and constant complains.           Toodaloo Motherfuckers!!!!!
nick_InZoMNiAC

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Posted : May 25, 2011 11:21
Quote:

On 2011-05-25 09:00, DETOX wrote:
Quote:

On 2011-05-25 00:46, Spaced-out Rastaman wrote:

How are the costs of the party going to be paid?




Do you think he actually cares about that?

Some people want everything for free and are never happy about anything,the right word i guess is TZAMPATZIDES with the bad meaning of the word. These people are better to stay to their homes along with their bad vibes and constant complains.




That's not my case mate. I have been to many other parties with normal prices (beer for 1-1,5 euro, water for 50 cents). How do these people cover the costs of their parties? It's not about being 'tzampatzis' it's about anti-commercial mentality. Mind you I have been to parties "oikonomikhs enisxyshs" where at the end of the night more than 2,500 euros have been donated (oxra speiroxaith last live @ panteios). So it's not about tzampatzides now, is it?

Also, I will complain about the music since I find it crap and not psychedelic. It might bother you because you think of the crowd as sheep that should not complain and worship the organizers!
DETOX
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Posted : May 25, 2011 13:02
I dont care about your music taste since its something personal,i didnt even mentioned anything about the music,you did,not me,so dont tell me what bothers me and what doesnt bother me because i never mentioned anything about the music part in the first place so dont try to take the conversation away from what you said.

A beer costs 70-80 cents so for you the normal sale price is 1-1,5 euro? So maximum of profit is 70 cents per unit which means 2000 beers in one night for a 2000 people event (like everybody drinks or something...) is a 1400 euros profit to pay for what? For the soundsystem? For the printed material to advertise the event? For the artists travelling expenses (i dont mention fees here)? For the stage construction? Let me tell you something body YOU HAVE NO CLUE WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT!           Toodaloo Motherfuckers!!!!!
nick_InZoMNiAC

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Posted : May 25, 2011 13:27
Quote:

On 2011-05-25 13:02, DETOX wrote:
I dont care about your music taste since its something personal,i didnt even mentioned anything about the music,you did,not me,so dont tell me what bothers me and what doesnt bother me because i never mentioned anything about the music part in the first place so dont try to take the conversation away from what you said.
Oh, but I forgot, the profit will go to the Mapuche ...Yeah right!
Also you calculated only the beers. How much does small water bottle cost and how much is the profit if you have it 0.5 - 1 euros?

A beer costs 70-80 cents so for you the normal sale price is 1-1,5 euro? So maximum of profit is 70 cents per unit which means 2000 beers in one night for a 2000 people event (like everybody drinks or something...) is a 1400 euros profit to pay for what? For the soundsystem? For the printed material to advertise the event? For the artists travelling expenses (i dont mention fees here)? For the stage construction? Let me tell you something body YOU HAVE NO CLUE WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT!




As I have told you I have friends that organize drum&bass parties , they have beer maximum 1,50 euros (and I think they get it less than 70cents per can, not talking about heineken of course) and water 50cents. They for sure cover the cost,and they have even brought artists fro netherlands or USA,they are not divas though eh... ( oh, and in the void network party I think everyone that played was greek so no travelling expenses So yeah I have some clue... Also I told )you about the donation part , 2000+ euros in one night only by donations, you didn't answer that
DETOX
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Posted : May 25, 2011 15:05
1) Alfa beer costs 73 cents and amstel 83 cents,the only beer that is cheaper is vergina for 63 cents that is the worst beer on the market.

2) I dont know who are your friends that organise dnb events,i am talking specific here so you can talk specific also and then we can see what kind of parties these are.Maybe your friends dont use a soundsystem or maybe they have a friend that provides one for free,from my experience most free parties pay for a soundsystem which sometimes can get preety expensive not to mention the backline for the artists.

3) Void network organises various events some with foreign artists and some just with local artists,the bar prices are always the same no matter who is playing and no matter how much money they are getting payed and where they come from.

4) Most events dont include donations of any form,i remember B Fest last year had a donation box outside (that most people ignored) but most of the free events i have been dont have a donation box anywhere so we cant talk about donations here especially when donations are being gathered most of the times to be given somewhere for a specific purpose and not to cover party expenses.In a few words most of the times donations are not an income since they are being used for other reasons.

Accusing someone who hosts a free event for an "arpaxti" when the bar prices are 2 euros for a beer and 1 euro for a water is just a joke. This is bad "wiseguy" greek mentality where people sit behind a computer and write nonsense.If the beer price was 4-5 euros and the water 1,5-2 euros then yes we could speak about an arpaxti but when the prices are 1 and 2 euros then sorry but the whole accusation of yours is a funny thing to say the least.           Toodaloo Motherfuckers!!!!!
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