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KENO DIKTYO: Sat. 21 May LOFOS STREFI Cultures of Resistance /Electro Acid Psy Trance Experience
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nick_InZoMNiAC
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Posted : May 25, 2011 15:30
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I am talking about FUNXION crew & friends, mainly. And yes they have a pretty good soundsystem. Another friend of mine last year paid for a soundsystem for a party in 'skakiera' of esties polytexnioypolhs, he paid for the soundsystem and he still could cover the cost of the party by far. No wonder that dnb/dubstep parties have got so massive last years(although I dislike dubstep but that's another story).
Ok let's say that beer costs 75cents. If you sell it for 1,50 euros you do realize it's 100% profit eh? Isn't that enough? And i am not sure how much water bottles cost, let's see how much % profit there is from there too. I am pretty sure you can tell us.
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DETOX
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Posted : May 25, 2011 16:32
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The profit would be 100% if Void Network was only selling beers without any further expenses and this money would stay at the pocket of Void Network people BUT this is not the case and this is what i am trying to explain to you all day long.
A party is not just the bar sales or the advertising on the street or just the music or whatever. A party is a combination of everything.
Because if you say that the beer has a 100% profit then if the party has lets say 5000 euros expenses since it has no entrance fee if we leave the bar aside then the event has a 100% damage but things dont work like that,things get combined and work together.
If you believe that the prices at the bar are very high and in the end of the day the total bar sales are much higher than the total event cost then sorry but i think that you are mistaken and to be honest with you if i was in your position and i believed such things i would never visit or buy anything from a Void Network event ever.
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DETOX
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Posted : May 25, 2011 16:35
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And by the way it is better if Void Network makes lets say 1000-2000 euros as a profit from the whole thing in the end of the day (because they will invest it in other activities in the near future) rather than having even lower bar prices and loosing money out of their events because then i doubt we would see more actions from their side in the future if they couldnt afford them.
I can accept that bar prices in clubs are high when a beer costs 5-7 euros but 2 euros for a free event is nothing.
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nick_InZoMNiAC
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Posted : May 25, 2011 16:35
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On 2011-05-25 16:32, DETOX wrote:
The profit would be 100% if Void Network was only selling beers without any further expenses and this money would stay at the pocket of Void Network people BUT this is not the case and this is what i am trying to explain to you all day long.
A party is not just the bar sales or the advertising on the street or just the music or whatever. A party is a combination of everything.
Because if you say that the beer has a 100% profit then if the party has lets say 5000 euros expenses since it has no entrance fee if we leave the bar aside then the event has a 100% damage but things dont work like that,things get combined and work together.
If you believe that the prices at the bar are very high and in the end of the day the total bar sales are much higher than the total event cost then sorry but i think that you are mistaken and to be honest with you if i was in your position and i believed such things i would never visit or buy anything from a Void Network event ever.
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Could u please tell me about the water price too ? Thanks.
Also, I gave you examples of crews that organise parties with the same costs(flyers,soundsystem) and make ends meet with beer 1,5 max and water 0,5.
As for the last part, you are right and I do not plan to attend any other void network or natural high event in the future(except if they bring some name I really like, which I highly doubt), firstly because of the music and secondly because of the prices. In fact if I liked the music I would probably tolerate the expensive prices. |
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DR SAMMY
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Posted : May 25, 2011 17:50
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On 2011-05-25 16:35, nick_InZoMNiAC wrote:
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On 2011-05-25 16:32, DETOX wrote:
The profit would be 100% if Void Network was only selling beers without any further expenses and this money would stay at the pocket of Void Network people BUT this is not the case and this is what i am trying to explain to you all day long.
A party is not just the bar sales or the advertising on the street or just the music or whatever. A party is a combination of everything.
Because if you say that the beer has a 100% profit then if the party has lets say 5000 euros expenses since it has no entrance fee if we leave the bar aside then the event has a 100% damage but things dont work like that,things get combined and work together.
If you believe that the prices at the bar are very high and in the end of the day the total bar sales are much higher than the total event cost then sorry but i think that you are mistaken and to be honest with you if i was in your position and i believed such things i would never visit or buy anything from a Void Network event ever.
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Could u please tell me about the water price too ? Thanks.
Also, I gave you examples of crews that organise parties with the same costs(flyers,soundsystem) and make ends meet with beer 1,5 max and water 0,5.
As for the last part, you are right and I do not plan to attend any other void network or natural high event in the future(except if they bring some name I really like, which I highly doubt), firstly because of the music and secondly because of the prices. In fact if I liked the music I would probably tolerate the expensive prices.
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I suggest you came after 2 o'clock and you didnt listen to my set..  !!!
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DETOX
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Posted : May 25, 2011 18:00
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Water price is 15 cents per bottle,so according to your theory they make more than 230% profit per bottle. Someone might think the guys are millionaires or something....
In my opinion you have something personal against Void Network (dont know where Natural High came into the picture) otherwise there is no logic explanation for you calling a 2 euro beer expensive.
End of discussion from my part.
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nick_InZoMNiAC
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Posted : May 25, 2011 18:48
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Dr sammy that's true, I didn't listen to your set.
DETOX, no, nothing personal at all. 2 euro is expensive when it costs 70cents, 1 euro water is more than expensive when it costs 15cents. End of discussion from my part too. Before lofos strefh i was at another free party before where beer was 1euro.
By the way I also remember you dissing dark psytrance so much in the past, and now you bring Goa Gil. Oh, times change...
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DETOX
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Posted : May 25, 2011 19:11
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I am making parties for the people to have fun and not only for my own pleasure.If a profit comes out of this then thats welcome too.If i was organising events just with the artists i like then i would only make 2 parties a year with 4-5 artists.I dont only work with artists whose music i like because the parties are for the people and not for me.
I am bringing Goa Gil in Athens for the last 3 years just for your info.
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nick_InZoMNiAC
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Posted : May 25, 2011 19:14
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For the people or for the profit? 
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I used to be off the parties for the last 3 years so I didn't know that. It seems I haven't lost much either. I only listen to psytrance in my home or with friends,and mostly goa or dark or suomi.
It seems we have to learn to spin(We are not Goa gil who doesn't know to mix/beatmatch or produce music) and do our own parties.beer 3euro friendly price.
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DETOX
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Posted : May 25, 2011 19:17
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If you think that parties are very profitable i suggest you start organising your own and become rich. Trust me you are into for a big surprise like many many promoters of the past who have now dissapeared.
The parties didnt miss you either those last 3 years...
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nick_InZoMNiAC
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Posted : May 25, 2011 19:24
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On 2011-05-25 19:17, DETOX wrote:
If you think that parties are very profitable i suggest you start organising your own and become rich. Trust me you are into for a big surprise like many many promoters of the past who have now dissapeared.
The parties didnt miss you either those last 3 years...
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I am not saying they are VERY profitable, I am saying though that they should NOT be profitable! It's called anti-commercialism , I think you don't know the word or just catch an allergy when u see it written.
I am glad because the greek parties are mostly predominant with full-on crap. I also didn't miss 20-30 euros per entrance at all.
And yes I choose to hang out with people that do parties for the true spirit of it and not to get money out of it...
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DR SAMMY
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Posted : May 25, 2011 20:08
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Nurbs
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Posted : May 25, 2011 20:11
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At least Void Network's parties have a diversity of people.
The 20-30 euro Goa Gill etc parties only burned out and kangoures attend.
I quit parties for this reason, do you miss me ?
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DETOX
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Posted : May 25, 2011 20:54
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Parties dont miss anyone who considers himself above the others.
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nick_InZoMNiAC
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Posted : May 25, 2011 21:07
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On 2011-05-25 19:24, nick_InZoMNiAC wrote:
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On 2011-05-25 19:17, DETOX wrote:
If you think that parties are very profitable i suggest you start organising your own and become rich. Trust me you are into for a big surprise like many many promoters of the past who have now dissapeared.
The parties didnt miss you either those last 3 years...
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I am not saying they are VERY profitable, I am saying though that they should NOT be profitable! It's called anti-commercialism , I think you don't know the word or just catch an allergy when u see it written.
I am glad because the greek parties are mostly predominant with full-on crap. I also didn't miss 20-30 euros per entrance at all.
And yes I choose to hang out with people that do parties for the true spirit of it and not to get money out of it...
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And I am emphasizing the bold part because especially Void Network have claimed to be close to the anarchist point-of-view,anti-consumerist,anti-capitalist etc ... Well, I consider true anarchists people like Ochra Speiroxaith (http://wxra.squat.gr] ) , who stand by their ideology and live their life true to themselves and to what they claim to be. |
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