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RaDioAcTiVe AcIdHeAd
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Posted : Sep 15, 2009 22:50
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@ bbgun & people alike -
first thing, if this is a internet forum that doesnt mean u have to be rude to evryone and talk nonsense... coz its real ppl discussing here... That shows what u have learnt or ur beliefs have taught u... do u think hiding behind a fake identity u can throw nonsense at people is a good thing just because this is a internet forum ???!!!... its stupid...
Secondly, i never said there r no fake conny babas... But that doesnt mean there no real ones... And to understand why they lead such a life or wat they are doing, u need to get to a different level all together which i guess is not possible by u as u r so close minded abt everythin... Maybe there are more fake babas nowadays than the real ones or the ones u have seen maybe only fake ones, which cud be the reason for ur perception abt them... maybe u shud give a thought abt them sometime... it will only help u to a great extent to understand abt them... no harm done for sure...
Regarding Black magic!!!... well there r many fake babas who are into black magic for all the wrong reasons... thats all i can say now... to get into what is magic is again a vast thing... to say in simple words ppl use different forms of energy, nature, and including ur mind most importantly and manipulate it to achieve some desired good or bad effect... and there r very few ppl who can genuinely do this... not all... especially for a good cause... magic im referring here is not the magic shows ppl put up on stage  ... And don worry im not a black wizard... lol...
And regarding ur talk abt science, going to school, fantasies, occult etc.... well wat can i say... all i can say is probably u dont know much or too closed minded to see the sense in all different things that are there around u... There are a LOT of things in this world... some old and forgotten and some new and some u cant even understand yet... and some which close minded science only believing ppl have discredited them... Please dont make a mistake of thikning Science is the only thing that makes sense and all the other things doesnt make any sense... If u look at it properly, science had reached a kind of dead end sometime back and it needed the strong push from spirituality and other stuff to go ahead... Just know that science is JUST A TOOL to understand all the things unknown... So Science cannot never ever be the "GOD"... But it can help u understand what is god... this is just an example... Also even religions were in the begining made for the good cause of people, but sadly has been tampered and used it for all wrong reasons... And there were good occult and bad occult practises also... its sad that only bad has prevailed too much nowadays, but there are people who follow these for good intentions... and the sadhus/monks/sages/etc are very important people... they know a lot of things and the kind of things they do and the control they have on their mind and body and nature and its laws is amazing, Note that science is studying these people how they do all this and how common man like u and me can implement it in our lives for good purposes... lets take an example of a naga sadhu itself... go try and meet a genuine one, learn abt them, learn why they do what they do, and then u tell me if they are JUST a bunch of naked theives who smoke charas all day... But if u dont wanna know abt them, then keep mum n don talk shite abt them... constructive criticism is a different thing and outrighted abuse is another thing...
There are a lot of things in this world and humans have used each and everything for all kinda bad intentions, and the genuine ppl have gone underground... which is the reason why people have lost belief in everything nowadays... there are conmen and bad men in each and every walk of life and not just the babas, that doesnt mean everything is fucked up and the things u cannot or don wanna understand is fucked up... Everything has a sense and meaning... u just need to understand the sense of it... u really need to learn to respect everything...
Anyways, i don know why the discussions in this section is going so wild... it is only supposed to be for good intentions and information sharing... really if u wanna talk shite and abuse and fight u can go to the India section.. there are more ppl like u there nowadays...
i guess the discussion continues peacefully from here onwards... 
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AumShantiAum
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Posted : Sep 15, 2009 22:57
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"Behold, he who rules from highest heaven, he knows!
Or he may not know."
Seems like it's basically saying, "Your guess is as good as mine, isn't it?"
Does anyone else have any opinions on what a line like that might imply?
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thats a really good line to point out and there has been a lot of discussion about that line for a very long time. it does imply this sense of the unknown. I relate it a lot to that famous quote from Socrates: "I know that I do not know". Even at the highest levels there are still somethings that are unknown. Ill try and find some links that discuss that line, i know ive come across a few in a past.
@Moki: In my opinion the Bhagavad Gita is perhaps the best book to paint a complete picture, from karma yoga (action) to jnana yoga (knowledge) to bhakti yoga (devotion). Its a very short text and theres a good chance you already read it. However I would avoid any translations from ISKCON (International Society for Krishna Consciousness). Its a very important book and even though its so short it has so much to teach. Its often been referred to as the most important text ever written and a key to understanding the world.
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AumShantiAum
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Posted : Sep 15, 2009 23:28
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Atleast by now Moki, months after this topic was originally posted, I hope you see that Kali is not a goddess that represents darkness and evil.
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RaDioAcTiVe AcIdHeAd
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Posted : Sep 15, 2009 23:42
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"Behold, he who rules from highest heaven, he knows!
Or he may not know."
Seems like it's basically saying, "Your guess is as good as mine, isn't it?"
Does anyone else have any opinions on what a line like that might imply?
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like ASA says it might imply the sense of unknown... also ive come across things like eventhough the "god" is supreme, he is still learning abt the universe through all of us... there is a god element in all of us and thru each persons each experience god himself is still learning... or the universe is learning abt itself still... etc...
Or cud it be like --- he who rules frm the highest heaven --- cud it be the extra-terrestrials/alien gods/higher beings etc --- maybe they still don know every bleepin thing ??? 
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toogoodforyou
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On 2009-09-15 22:50, RaDioAcTiVe AcIdHeAd wrote:
@ bbgun & people alike -
first thing, if this is a internet forum that doesnt mean u have to be rude to evryone and talk nonsense... coz its real ppl discussing here... That shows what u have learnt or ur beliefs have taught u... do u think hiding behind a fake identity u can throw nonsense at people is a good thing just because this is a internet forum ???!!!... its stupid...
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Come on... a bit of sarcasm and humor cannot hurt. Humor is a part of being 'spiritual'
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RaDioAcTiVe AcIdHeAd
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Posted : Sep 16, 2009 01:05
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@toogoodforyou
Humour/sarcasm and rudeness/abuse are 2 different things... they r good at times but sometimes they turn out to be bad if the other person is not acknowledging it... anyone one shud be sensible enuff to realize that... maybe the other person is seriously trying to tell u somethin...
say u maybe u like Osho... he is givin a speach serioulsy and trying to convey something,. lot of others r intently listening... go in front of him and start laughing and talk nonsense... do u think it will still be humourous??? maybe only for u, but not for the other person... maybe u will even end up making a fool of urself... Humour and sarcasm holds good for certain situations and maybe till some point of time...
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bbgun
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On 2009-09-15 22:50, RaDioAcTiVe AcIdHeAd wrote:
@ bbgun & people alike -
first thing, if this is a internet forum that doesnt mean u have to be rude to evryone and talk nonsense... coz its real ppl discussing here... That shows what u have learnt or ur beliefs have taught u... do u think hiding behind a fake identity u can throw nonsense at people is a good thing just because this is a internet forum ???!!!... its stupid...
Secondly, i never said there r no fake conny babas... But that doesnt mean there no real ones... And to understand why they lead such a life or wat they are doing, u need to get to a different level all together which i guess is not possible by u as u r so close minded abt everythin... Maybe there are more fake babas nowadays than the real ones or the ones u have seen maybe only fake ones, which cud be the reason for ur perception abt them... maybe u shud give a thought abt them sometime... it will only help u to a great extent to understand abt them... no harm done for sure...
Regarding Black magic!!!... well there r many fake babas who are into black magic for all the wrong reasons... thats all i can say now... to get into what is magic is again a vast thing... to say in simple words ppl use different forms of energy, nature, and including ur mind most importantly and manipulate it to achieve some desired good or bad effect... and there r very few ppl who can genuinely do this... not all... especially for a good cause... magic im referring here is not the magic shows ppl put up on stage ... And don worry im not a black wizard... lol...
And regarding ur talk abt science, going to school, fantasies, occult etc.... well wat can i say... all i can say is probably u dont know much or too closed minded to see the sense in all different things that are there around u... There are a LOT of things in this world... some old and forgotten and some new and some u cant even understand yet... and some which close minded science only believing ppl have discredited them... Please dont make a mistake of thikning Science is the only thing that makes sense and all the other things doesnt make any sense... If u look at it properly, science had reached a kind of dead end sometime back and it needed the strong push from spirituality and other stuff to go ahead... Just know that science is JUST A TOOL to understand all the things unknown... So Science cannot never ever be the "GOD"... But it can help u understand what is god... this is just an example... Also even religions were in the begining made for the good cause of people, but sadly has been tampered and used it for all wrong reasons... And there were good occult and bad occult practises also... its sad that only bad has prevailed too much nowadays, but there are people who follow these for good intentions... and the sadhus/monks/sages/etc are very important people... they know a lot of things and the kind of things they do and the control they have on their mind and body and nature and its laws is amazing, Note that science is studying these people how they do all this and how common man like u and me can implement it in our lives for good purposes... lets take an example of a naga sadhu itself... go try and meet a genuine one, learn abt them, learn why they do what they do, and then u tell me if they are JUST a bunch of naked theives who smoke charas all day... But if u dont wanna know abt them, then keep mum n don talk shite abt them... constructive criticism is a different thing and outrighted abuse is another thing...
There are a lot of things in this world and humans have used each and everything for all kinda bad intentions, and the genuine ppl have gone underground... which is the reason why people have lost belief in everything nowadays... there are conmen and bad men in each and every walk of life and not just the babas, that doesnt mean everything is fucked up and the things u cannot or don wanna understand is fucked up... Everything has a sense and meaning... u just need to understand the sense of it... u really need to learn to respect everything...
Anyways, i don know why the discussions in this section is going so wild... it is only supposed to be for good intentions and information sharing... really if u wanna talk shite and abuse and fight u can go to the India section.. there are more ppl like u there nowadays...
i guess the discussion continues peacefully from here onwards...
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Mr. "enlightened" Acidhead, kindly put down your dropper and pay attention. I am not spiritual; I argue for argument sake. I love talking nonsense. I love being rude. Mockery, sarcasm, ridicule, contempt, derision, scorn are some of the things that make life worth living. For your own sake - to avoid looking like an idiot - do not talk to me about hiding behind fake identities. For 7 years I used my first and last name as my isra id, but unfortunately the India section had unwanted characters keeping an eye on it well before call-center junkies heard about psytrance. So, I was forced to change it. Anyways, if you think YOU are some thug and can put me in place - and live in Bangalore - get your flimsy, junkie ass and kindly come and meet me. Maybe you will realize some people don't need to hide behind an id to be the way they are
You reiterated my point by saying "Maybe there are more fake babas nowadays than the real ones or the ones u have seen maybe only fake ones, which cud be the reason for ur perception abt them". So I will not argue that matter. Your comments on science have proven what a duffer you are. Although I think it's important to think beyond science, ideas that contradict known-science and blasphemy reason must be regarded with suspicion. By that yardstick, your black magic, white magic, kali PMS objects are unfortunately incompatible.
Science is not god, because there is no bloody god. I'm sure you will rebuke this with some fancy symbolic meaning of "god" but that's just a load of shit. So, what the hell makes you think science reached a roadblock some years ago? What evidence do you have to backup this retarded claim? Or did one of your acid experiences tell you that? You sir, with all respect to your credulity, should READ before making claims. And talking of religion, you are getting into dangerous territory and threatening to make a bigger fool of YOURSELF. If you think all religions were fabricated for a good cause, kindly open some monotheistic manuals and delve into the horrors. Control, control, control.
So, after this, maybe, the conversation can go peacefully Cheers.
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phazed
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On 2009-09-16 09:12, bbgun wrote:
Anyways, if you think YOU are some thug and can put me in place - and live in Bangalore - get your flimsy, junkie ass and kindly come and meet me. Maybe you will realize some people don't need to hide behind an id to be the way they are
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Careful what you wish you for boy. There IS a GOD and it listens to you.
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bbgun
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Oh, how charming I await the streak of lightening.
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RaDioAcTiVe AcIdHeAd
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toogoodforyou
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On 2009-09-16 01:05, RaDioAcTiVe AcIdHeAd wrote:
@toogoodforyou
say u maybe u like Osho... he is givin a speach serioulsy and trying to convey something,. lot of others r intently listening... go in front of him and start laughing and talk nonsense... do u think it will still be humourous???
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I've imagined that situation myself at times. Although i would not do it, it might turn out to be really hilarious if done properly
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moki
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Posted : Sep 16, 2009 15:06
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On 2009-09-15 23:28, AumShantiAum wrote:
Atleast by now Moki, months after this topic was originally posted, I hope you see that Kali is not a goddess that represents darkness and evil.
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no i have always seen her as the mother, what she really is. but she appears dark anyway. havent changed my mind on that, although a lot of things changed since the topic was started. i miss fria, where is she?:)
it is just like a normal mother, she has to appear dark sometimes and punish the kids a bit, cause otherwise they would never grow....but she doesnt represent darkness, just looks dark. ( to me)
thanks for advice on gita. if you truely believe i havent read the gita, then i dont know what to comment more:)))).
on osho - of course i have read some dozens books of him and i have done the sanyasin trip too, but it is not for me. too much rich kids with awakened attitute. i love to be at places where very few ppl dare to be. the sanyasin trip is not the case.
but may be i would hear your advice and read gita once more before i go to india. it is like the bible - you read it with 13, with 25 and with 30 and every time you see new things. but the bible is totally boring in comparison to bhagavat gita anyway....
about kali - actually, no, i havent really changed my mind that she appears dark and HAS TO appear dark. she has to kill the ignorance.
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bbgun
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On 2009-09-12 21:43, Moki.Time.Wave.Zero wrote:
and btw there are sacred places which concentrate the female energy to such an extent that you can get an orgasm alone by staying there. it is the vortex of kundalini of the mother.
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Pardon me. But could you please elaborate on this? |
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Axis Mundi
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On 2009-09-12 21:43, Moki.Time.Wave.Zero wrote:
and btw there are sacred places which concentrate the female energy to such an extent that you can get an orgasm alone by staying there. it is the vortex of kundalini of the mother.
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Pardon me. But could you please elaborate on this?
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She's talking about leaning against the washing machine.
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RaDioAcTiVe AcIdHeAd
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On 2009-09-16 01:05, RaDioAcTiVe AcIdHeAd wrote:
@toogoodforyou
say u maybe u like Osho... he is givin a speach serioulsy and trying to convey something,. lot of others r intently listening... go in front of him and start laughing and talk nonsense... do u think it will still be humourous???
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I've imagined that situation myself at times. Although i would not do it, it might turn out to be really hilarious if done properly
Come on man... don't you enjoy family guy?
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lol... i luv ze peter griffin but i don think so u can be peter griffin all the time
@bbgun ... Mr.Quick Gun Murugan... i stay in blore ... lets meet... PM me ur number... and lets see who is what...
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