and about the sex thing, can you expand on that?
I mean sex is reproducting and all the feelings that comes with it is just bonus and non bonus...
hm, this is a very interesting link and again totally synchronised with my feelings in reality right now.
it is so strange....i experienced exactly the same way so much destruction coming from my libido in the last year - loads of it on all fields of expression. it was just because of someone who was really really hurting my libido and there was absolutely no way to express it. i made pics and animations , played music but i could never express or show any of them to him , so at the end recently i had a real collapse of feelings and destroyed them all. like a ritual. right before i went to the sattvi from the latest post btw. now it is better.
i somehow always felt that i dont really need a partner, because sex is of no special interest. because i had this bliss without a partner too, often during lucid dreaming or just like that. earlier i always imagined that i am doing love with the earth, like for instance sitting on the beach and imagining that i am one with the earth, the wind, the sea, the sand , the trees, and then orgasms came so easily ( i was almost a child). and i actually never had high priority of having a partner in life, although i always did till recently the latest months not anymore.
sex will not always be the way we get children and reproduce. at least many of the esoteric teachings about the five races - the atlants, the lemurians and so on - state that the humans did not always reproduce by sex. but it is another topic.
scientists do not always tell us that it is good for us to make sex. sometimes they tell us to keep our energy cause otherwise it exhausts us. well yes, it is certainly good for the libido itself, cause this is not about having an orgasm, it is about a very special sort of communication connected to the way you experience yourself as a part of this world - connections to your mother and father and the deepest anxieties and fears you have with the idea of being a lonely being in a foreign world.
whatever it is - i only mean that sex has never been an important part of life for anyone who is able to experience so easily orgasms even without vibration. i have heard many times that some awakened babas are able to experience orgasm even by touching their tongue on the inner side of the mouth ( if their 5,6,7th chakra are open) - which they try not to do, because they are losing too much energy on the material level.
why do you think is sex so good - because we are totally out of energy after it???? because we reproduce???
hm, to me the only precious thing about it is that it gives a way of communicating that you cannot have otherwise.
anyway. i somehow always knew that i can do better without a partner. at least now as i am going to india this time alone. finally no obligations. it is so perfect to have no obligations.
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If you're really interested in experiencing the Kali energy first hand you should travel to Kalighat in Calcutta during the Kali Puja (annual Kali festival around the same time as Diwali ~ 17th Oct)
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and about the sex thing, can you expand on that?
I mean sex is reproducting and all the feelings that comes with it is just bonus and non bonus...
hm, this is a very interesting link and again totally synchronised with my feelings in reality right now.
it is so strange....i experienced exactly the same way so much destruction coming from my libido in the last year - loads of it on all fields of expression. it was just because of someone who was really really hurting my libido and there was absolutely no way to express it. i made pics and animations , played music but i could never express or show any of them to him , so at the end recently i had a real collapse of feelings and destroyed them all. like a ritual. right before i went to the sattvi from the latest post btw. now it is better.
i somehow always felt that i dont really need a partner, because sex is of no special interest. because i had this bliss without a partner too, often during lucid dreaming or just like that. earlier i always imagined that i am doing love with the earth, like for instance sitting on the beach and imagining that i am one with the earth, the wind, the sea, the sand , the trees, and then orgasms came so easily ( i was almost a child). and i actually never had high priority of having a partner in life, although i always did till recently the latest months not anymore.
sex will not always be the way we get children and reproduce. at least many of the esoteric teachings about the five races - the atlants, the lemurians and so on - state that the humans did not always reproduce by sex. but it is another topic.
scientists do not always tell us that it is good for us to make sex. sometimes they tell us to keep our energy cause otherwise it exhausts us. well yes, it is certainly good for the libido itself, cause this is not about having an orgasm, it is about a very special sort of communication connected to the way you experience yourself as a part of this world - connections to your mother and father and the deepest anxieties and fears you have with the idea of being a lonely being in a foreign world.
whatever it is - i only mean that sex has never been an important part of life for anyone who is able to experience so easily orgasms even without vibration. i have heard many times that some awakened babas are able to experience orgasm even by touching their tongue on the inner side of the mouth ( if their 5,6,7th chakra are open) - which they try not to do, because they are losing too much energy on the material level.
why do you think is sex so good - because we are totally out of energy after it???? because we reproduce???
hm, to me the only precious thing about it is that it gives a way of communicating that you cannot have otherwise.
anyway. i somehow always knew that i can do better without a partner. at least now as i am going to india this time alone. finally no obligations. it is so perfect to have no obligations.
Hey moki, nice thoughts and view on this thing....
I think also its a very special sort of communication with very strong energy, though i think some people use this sort of communication way to often and with way too many people... to me it would lose its meaning, at least for me, i am a very passionate lover(i love to give all of my energy) and i want many things to be right otherwise its just wrong, and its sad when its wrong and you still give all of your self. But i guess you should always try and give as much as possible. though i also guess there are limits in certain situations.
i will re-read your post and try and answer your questions and see if i have any other thoughts.
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scientists do not always tell us that it is good for us to make sex. sometimes they tell us to keep our energy cause otherwise it exhausts us. well yes, it is certainly good for the libido itself, cause this is not about having an orgasm, it is about a very special sort of communication connected to the way you experience yourself as a part of this world - connections to your mother and father and the deepest anxieties and fears you have with the idea of being a lonely being in a foreign world.
why do you think is sex so good - because we are totally out of energy after it???? because we reproduce???
hm, to me the only precious thing about it is that it gives a way of communicating that you cannot have otherwise.
Everything you do in life arises from this Sexual energy. So if you are holding back sex, its useful as long as the energy is channeled somewhere maybe in meditation and some hard work. Otherwise if you just keep repressing it, sex will be on your mind pretty often and you will get loads of sexual dreams (Maybe one of the reasons for your random orgasm somewhere)
Personally i believe its good and healthy when done in moderation. It is natures gift. Sure, a little energy gets used up but its worth all the blissful feeling and connection. In my case my energy levels go up soon.
In fact if more people in this world were having sex with someone they connected (or loved) with, it would be a more peaceful place. Problems like aggression, depression, loneliness often arise cause of lack of it.
Not having sex is fine if it really comes to you naturally otherwise you'll just be dreaming of it. Just holding it for the sake of it and feeling holier than thou is just stupid.
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scientists do not always tell us that it is good for us to make sex. sometimes they tell us to keep our energy cause otherwise it exhausts us. well yes, it is certainly good for the libido itself, cause this is not about having an orgasm, it is about a very special sort of communication connected to the way you experience yourself as a part of this world - connections to your mother and father and the deepest anxieties and fears you have with the idea of being a lonely being in a foreign world.
why do you think is sex so good - because we are totally out of energy after it???? because we reproduce???
hm, to me the only precious thing about it is that it gives a way of communicating that you cannot have otherwise.
Everything you do in life arises from this Sexual energy. So if you are holding back sex, its useful as long as the energy is channeled somewhere maybe in meditation and some hard work. Otherwise if you just keep repressing it, sex will be on your mind pretty often and you will get loads of sexual dreams (Maybe one of the reasons for your random orgasm somewhere)
Personally i believe its good and healthy when done in moderation. It is natures gift. Sure, a little energy gets used up but its worth all the blissful feeling and connection. In my case my energy levels go up soon.
In fact if more people in this world were having sex with someone they connected (or loved) with, it would be a more peaceful place. Problems like aggression, depression, loneliness often arise cause of lack of it.
Not having sex is fine if it really comes to you naturally otherwise you'll just be dreaming of it. Just holding it for the sake of it and feeling holier than thou is just stupid.
Yes its true, sexual deprivation is very bad and will cause bad moodswings.
The question here is the need for human touch and nearness! Its also very important and sex dont have to be main focus!
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yes, i agree very much with both opinions above.
i am just trying to experiment with the sexual energy with focusing on doing no sex but only other forms of distant and non-distant communication . actually i am very interested in this form of having an orgasm on distance or at least with touching the surface only or through speaking and through human nearness. and btw i am not having random orgasms, they are very well synchronised with other coordinates of reality - like for instance very special places, or after having a special ritual ....
but i dont know. may be you are right- they are sort of random. unpredictable.
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In fact if more people in this world were having sex with someone they connected (or loved) with, it would be a more peaceful place. Problems like aggression, depression, loneliness often arise cause of lack of it.
yes, but if you cannot do with the one you love, whatever the reason is, then you better not do it with anyone. i think. but this is not what i always thought in the last 15 years - on the contrary, i always thought that it is anice way to get to know each other. but now i believe that if you cannot trust someone completely ( and i actually never did with any man in my whole life) then you better stop it completely as well. they are stealing your soul after you gave them sexual energy. really, they do. it is the most profound form of energy vampirism.
whatever. i am too old for such things now. this month it will be one year since i started my sexual sort of anti sexual experiment. the only thing i really dont know how to solve is the dilemma how to do something so serious with someone you dont trust. it is impossible. it looks like i am gonna spend my life as a nun from now on. but i dont really miss it. really not. i dont know.
anyway, love and psy greets to your brothers.
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Well moki if you ever feel a little angry and cant handle certain things, they nag on you and you cant focus.. Clear your sexual energy with a orgasm and i am quite sure that you will feel better... as i assume this aspect is the same for male and female..
I think its very important like toogoodforyou says that you channel out this energy in some way.. otherwise it will haunt you in some way... haha maybe not the right word but fun anyway.. or its the right word..
Peace all orgasmic creatures!
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Clear your sexual energy with a orgasm and i am quite sure that you will feel better..as i assume this aspect is the same for male and female..
this is exactly the issue, i am not sure it is the same:))). not even slightly. i enjoy the interraction, not the orgasm. i could have so easily orgasms myself but this is not what i need.
orgasms need too much energy btw. i need capacities - both intellectual and energy based. like for instance exactly now working on databases and programming, and i am preying that i dont have a random orgasm, cause after that i would never ever be able to program till tomorrow.
joke, seriously, these orgasms are not so random. nothing in this world is random anyway, even the chaos ( but this is somthing we had in the cosmic octave thread already). they are logical relations. i can relate them statistically to a special place, a special atmosphere or a special ritual. i can actually relate them to a man.
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Moki - maybe it is different, i dont know!
but i think both man and women needs to orgasm from time to time to feel good! No matter if it takes some energy to get there... you know both man and women have man and women in them so its just about where you are and how open you are to it, there are females that's acting like men in some situations and men that's acting like females in some situations, and its all good! but there are so many aspects, like cultural and experience´s and more that comes to play when we define male and female! (im not even well-read on the subject.. hehe)
i really think we attract a certain type of male or female and we get what we get...
if we dont change our selfs so we can attract another kind of partner! Some can even attract a more varity of partners than others.. good for them hehe
Anyway i think this man that you think of should be real happy that he can make you orgasm without him being there... that must have been quite a man! (just listen to that argument,"that must have been quite a man!" how often do you hear the opposite, i dont think as often)
Also to add we live in a whole new era of life and we should really not be so Male and Female oriented, love and respect needs to expand and a openness is needed! As i said both male and female can do same things its just a mind setting, why in the world would it otherwise exists homosexuals and female hunters, and so on.... its us and the society that decides!
Too much writing for me latley! need to make music now!
laters
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i heard the new age will have a female orientation ))))
have fun doing sound bro:)
about the male and female part, i dont know, it is not so much about the body we have but more about the attitude. mine is more male, i dont know, i hate to behave like a woman and even if i tried, i would be lost in this jungle world of predator universe anyway.
but i will think of the idea to change my identity again. done it so many times with the purpose of attraction.
anyway, first go to india. i cant waiiiiittttttt:)
best regards bro
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Posted : Sep 28, 2009 18:47
thanks for the book, looks really interesting, it will be the first thing i read tonight
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yes it was very interesting read, i will read more later..
Take care!
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"the hunter makes himself sexually attractive to the hunted animal":). sounds really so strange, the whole passage.
i am so tired of hunting actually. really. especially the last time was probably the very last time in my life that i did it. enough. i am actually almost assuming the idea that it is possible that i never come back from india this time and stay as a nun till the end of my life. no sex. the last hunted object, i realized i am even too tired to hunt any more in my life.
i even see the possibility that i never see europe after that. the only thing that speaks against it is that my firm is having very nice perspectives right now but anyway, who knows, may be i really never come back. tired of hunting. tired of the jungle. tired of being a predator.
and take care too . this book was really very informative. i am actually a vegetarian and not into the animal thing but i think it is making sense to do it the way this haiti people do this. they respect the soul of the animal at least.
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but fun anyway.. or its the right word..
(just listen to that argument,"that must have been quite a man!" how often do you hear the opposite, i dont think as often)
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