is it common practice or a faux pas for trance DJ's to play MP3s?
OzMike
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Posted : Nov 7, 2013 13:25
I can't believe ppl still argue about this crap. Who cares? If a dj chooses to use mp3 then it's their choice, just like cd or vinyl.
And to associate mp3 with illegal downloads is so stupid it's not funny. Why don't you go hang out with Metalkica and live back in 2000 or whenever they sued naps get & destroyed any real potential for a pleasant transition in to the world of digital music sales?
What an idiotic comment to make.
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Posted : Nov 7, 2013 15:19
"What an idiotic comment to make."
so in every topic its full of comments like those...
and we have to adapt to the idiots like you and speak in the same level otherwise they would not understand us... u must have serious issues in ur life. i feel even pity for you...
why should u download MP3 when u have flac or wav for the same price??
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Posted : Nov 7, 2013 16:21
Using mp3 on bigg sound systems, is like use a a very small picture of jpeg on a huge desktop monitor or priting on a huge wall...
what will happen? instead of have definition, you will notice all the "pixels" wich means, when you amplify an mp3 you will notice much more the inperfections caused by the compression of the signal... that usualy regular people dont notice at their tiny speakers at home...
mp3 have less bass and the reverb and delay tales are washed up, they dont have the same detail, certain tracks like minimal or mixes that arent busy, its more dificult to notice, but in psytrance wich is usualy more busy mixes, you will for sure detect an mp3 lower bit rate
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Posted : Nov 7, 2013 21:07
now, what about the difference between wav and vinyl? It has been a long time since i went to a party where all the dj's were spinning records, but I imagine it sounds a lot nicer. Lately I've been listening to lots of vinyl at home and comparing it to other formats, and I gotta say...I'm officially on the hipster bandwagon in support of more vinyl.
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Posted : Nov 7, 2013 23:37
i love how vinyl sounds on a good big system... the sound is warm (yes cliche, but thats the only way i can describe it ) and you can definitely distinguish between vinyl and the clean and clear digital formats
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Posted : Nov 8, 2013 06:28
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On 2013-11-07 15:19, Adigroovy wrote:
"What an idiotic comment to make."
so in every topic its full of comments like those...
and we have to adapt to the idiots like you and speak in the same level otherwise they would not understand us... u must have serious issues in ur life. i feel even pity for you...
why should u download MP3 when u have flac or wav for the same price??
That's not my argument. You said you associate mp3s basically as only illegal downloads. That's a load of bullshit as most ppl buy mp3 through iTunes etc.
Get your head out of your arse, the average joe walking down the street doesn't give a flying fuck about whether wav or mp3 sounds better. They want the cheapest option, the one that takes up the least amount of space as long as they get too hear their fav track.
Go outside and I bet you if you asked most ppl on the street they'd either not know what wav/flac is nor would most of then care.
It's just audiophile's sitting on forums bitching about it because they have nothing else left to discuss.
I used to be all about wav being better & all that rubbish, but at the end of the day having all my music on a portable device taking up little space is more important than the tiny difference between between wav/flac/hug quality mp3.
As I said, I you really wanted the best quality then you'd only listen to quality pressed vinyl. As soon as you step in to digital be it a CD or a digital file you lose a whole of the original recording.
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Posted : Nov 8, 2013 09:16
Ah here we go again....
I think by now it has been proven 99% of the people can't hear the difference between 320 and wav. So get over it. I am sure there are plenty of dj's who play 320..
And don't ask me for tests. Google it and you ll find it. There are more than enough of them. We even had our own test here on IT and that already showed people couldn't hear the difference...
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Posted : Nov 8, 2013 11:34
They way I see it, if you are a DJ playing out and taking your self seriously, you are expected to play the best quality of whatever you are going to play.
And regarding vinyl, I've been in mastering studios when I was getting my breakbeat records cut, one of them was Heathman's. In all studios, the actual signal that fed the lathe cutter that cut the grooves into the dubplate was fed from a digital Lexicon unit, so that procedure in it self, is lossy... but alas it is the frequency response of the vinyl that makes it sound warmer, especially with there is excess weight on the needle to prevent it from jumping off the record on a stage where people are dancing/jumping on and the table where the decks are on, is on that stage and picks up movement.
The dynamic range of the vinyl is smaller to that of a 16bit CD. But that is for old vinyl VS digital debates.
The point stands, if you're given slots to play, play the music at its best quality, even if the average punter does not care.
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Posted : Nov 8, 2013 13:18
indeed, and u Ozmike... so u download itunes to play on a party?? in that case u can just play online radio.... and yess its still is most of the mp3 is ripping off the artrist.. if u want to support them u will get at least flac...))
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Posted : Nov 8, 2013 13:26
My friend I only have CDs & vinyl. If music is not released on either medium (digital only) then I refuse to waste money on a digital file.
When I play my gigs I use high quality wav files on a USB. At home I has high quality mp3 on my iphone because it takes less space & sounds fine for every day listening.
But the average person down the street? Yes they only have iTunes quality mp3.
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Posted : Nov 8, 2013 13:39
" [ ... ] there is no light but there is sound. It fills him in great sluggish waves. Not heard but felt through his hundred cells. The cells pulse, separate, contract according to the rush of fluid. This is now the basis of his being, the flow. He is in his own blood."
I for one in general if truly attentive and in-it enough can and will be able to separate 320 mp3 from lossless wave quality. It's more felt then actually heard, even though those two senses goes together in the respect to music and it's sound.
The difference might be minimal to some, but it is there. Clearly. Hard to point out and prove, but it is heard and felt, the difference, even though you might not clearly notice it yourself. It's one of those hidden truths.
To rip your legally bought CD-s ie. to mp3 is accepted, but for the better quality of total sound experience + the amount of available storage space on your mac or pc for a small amount of money today, it's a foolish when you can rip it to wav. instead. To download killer tracks (320kbps or less) and DJ them in a kinda serious setting, or booking, no matter how big the gig. Is just a slanted shame. Really. Tommy The Bat 4:06 "Please, tell them. That I am God."
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Posted : Nov 8, 2013 15:56
"the amount of available storage space on your mac or pc for a small amount of money today, it's a foolish when you can rip it to wav. instead. To download killer tracks (320kbps or less) and DJ them in a kinda serious setting, or booking, no matter how big the gig. Is just a slanted shame."
indeed any fone is nowdays 32 gb at least space enouf man... and USB sticks from 120 most normal thing so to save space its total bullcrap....
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Posted : Nov 8, 2013 18:50
If I cant find a old tune in wav and I have it in mp3 320 kbps then I'll use it (no i don't download illegal). Why? Because the tune probably is awesome and it would be stupid not to play it just because of some stupid debate here
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Posted : Nov 8, 2013 20:17
1) you can't tell the difference between a good quality mp3 and a wav/flac. I don't care if you tell me you can, you can't and you're lying
2) space is cheap - you should be playing lossless files if you have access to them
3) you can still have an emotional response to music that is lossy, so if its a choice between playing an awesome track in mp3 or not playing an awesome track because its an mp3 - play that awesome track and if you don't IMO you're a tosser
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Posted : Nov 10, 2013 00:55
would be interesting what bob katz writes in his book about itunes mastering:
) and you can definitely distinguish between vinyl and the clean and clear digital formats 
