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Innovation or precision ?

TimeTraveller
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Posted : Sep 5, 2013 10:22
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On 2013-09-04 20:57, dick hardman wrote:
Here's my contribution to the discussion (an example of innovation > precision)
https://soundcloud.com/adu-1/chaos-in-order

actually it's not innovation, it's just psychedelic trance. The real deal.







sounds like good old Ka-Sol tunes nice
          https://soundcloud.com/shivagarden
Yidam
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Posted : Sep 5, 2013 11:49
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On 2013-09-04 20:30, dick hardman wrote:
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On 2013-09-04 16:35:14, Yidam wrote:
What kind of trance do you prefer, stuff that's innovative and built to be different than anything before it's time, or stuff that takes production and quality to the next level?

I remember some introspective times on the dancefloor, the question was: to try and recreate the amazing music that was coming out of the speakers ...or to try and integrate the feeling of that sound with all the other inspirations to come up with something totally new.

Am inspired by way too many things so am always for innovation, but that's slowly changing with age and realization that there is just "too much" out there, and there are just going to be more distractions as the amount of music makers are growing at such a high rate.

Very broad example...

Inspiration: Goa Trance

Precision.... Full On
Innovation... Suomisaundi



You're my new best friend







Digging that ADU sound!
Yidam
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Posted : Sep 5, 2013 11:54
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On 2013-09-05 07:24, OzMike wrote:
I like music that is written with true passion & heart. Even with psy/goa you can tell the difference.

So many of the release today sound like ppl working with samples/tools and crafting sound very well but with no passion. Especially IMO in the progressive & full on scenes. Even maybe some of the forest sounds & neo-Goa/Psy.

There's no more the "wow" factor. When I listen to my fav Ll time classics, I just imagine how amazing it must have felt to create such sonic artworks.

Then some track pops up that's so modern & generic it kills my heart and soul. It sounds so crisp & perfect in many ways, but so sterile it's sickening.




true, noticed a lot of producers doing stuff like forest psy, neo-goa having the same precision approach with their music as the full-on/progressive trance producers did when it was getting overhauled for bigger and bigger dancefloors.
OzMike
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Posted : Sep 5, 2013 13:03
To this day Sandman's "Star Finder" has been my definitive track for innovative, precise and technical music. The remastered live version on Tribal Encore (Anjuna Records) defines it even further for me.

I was testing out the $5K sound system I'm buying end of year and I played this track from the CD. I both came and shat myself with joy at the same time





          Cuntus Maximus.
sphericalpyramid

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Posted : Sep 6, 2013 16:27
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demoniac
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Posted : Sep 6, 2013 16:36
Precision - Kindzadza
Innovation - Dog Of Tears
Both - Polyphonia           VA - Spiritual Science out now!
http://www.activemeditationmusic.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=703&category_id=6&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=7
dick hardman
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Posted : Sep 6, 2013 20:29
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On 2013-09-06 16:36, demoniac wrote:
Precision - Kindzadza
Innovation - Dog Of Tears
Both - Polyphonia




I feel the same about Dog of Tears.
Before I heard his music I saw him at a desert party wearing a bootleg Minor Threat shirt (as they all were till just recently). That told me right there that his music will not be like common psytrance (or ambient), but something unique.
Years later I saw him and one of the Cowboy dudes playing some kind of ambient something with live effects and sounds and it was one of the most psychedelic musics I've heard in San Francisco in a long ass time.

klippel
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Posted : Sep 6, 2013 20:46
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On 2013-09-05 07:24, OzMike wrote:
I like music that is written with true passion & heart. Even with psy/goa you can tell the difference.

So many of the release today sound like ppl working with samples/tools and crafting sound very well but with no passion. Especially IMO in the progressive & full on scenes. Even maybe some of the forest sounds & neo-Goa/Psy.

There's no more the "wow" factor. When I listen to my fav Ll time classics, I just imagine how amazing it must have felt to create such sonic artworks.

Then some track pops up that's so modern & generic it kills my heart and soul. It sounds so crisp & perfect in many ways, but so sterile it's sickening.



i do not agree often with you and you can be a real dick at times, but i see that we often feel the same about music. you speak my very words.

@thread: STFU and make music with your heart. do no think music, feel music. anything else is just a waste of time.

/rant over
          http://www.ektoplazm.com/free-music/stereofeld-frequenzwechsel
"I've always been a believer in musical repetition to draw in the listener and make the music hypnotic. Another thing I believe in is repetition." Alan Parsons
dick hardman
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Posted : Sep 6, 2013 21:41
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On 2013-09-06 20:46, klippel wrote:
... make music with your heart. do no think music, feel music. anything else is just a waste of time.




and you speak my very words

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