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IMPORTANT***Licencing issue…***
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T.D.R
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Posted : Nov 10, 2003 22:55
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Well , this leads me to another point :
What in case when dj plays un-owned stuff ?
It's obvious that each dj in this planet can't ask for artist/label's permission . However it's still use of copyright . |
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AGMIS
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Posted : Nov 11, 2003 02:55
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homsy,
This information is available through the RIAA (which is the american KUMA, but only a "little bigger).
T.D.R -- you are right and wrong.
(what i am about to say next is with regards to music in general, not only trance).
A dj can play other artist's tracks in a club. the reason that they can do this is because the clubs usually pay a set fee to the artist's publishing company. these companies (that own the right to license the copyright) gives licenses to clubs, venues etc... the reason why these publishing companies exist is for the reason that you would not have to go to each and every artist and ask for permission.
if the club does not have the proper licensing, the artist and his publishing company and record label could sue the club owners and the artist.
now, if the party was held outdoors, an artist could definitely sue someone who played their track without permission, and the orgenizer of the event.
btw, i am studying copyright law so feel free to raise more issues
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T.D.R
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Posted : Nov 11, 2003 06:32
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Good Agmis, thanks for polishing my point , of the both aspects.
I would ask u more these kind of issues for sure someday  . |
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VertigOA
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Posted : Nov 11, 2003 21:04
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Psy Commando
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Posted : Jan 2, 2004 23:55
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If a psychedelic trance artist would sue a DJ because he is playing his track I would be gob smacked!!!... |
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error604
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Posted : Jan 3, 2004 13:46
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FYI Agmis - the recent Addictive track by Truth Hurts which used a long sample of a Hindi film track is a good example. The original Hindi film's music composer was not credited nor paid and he took them to court and won! He was pretty pissed that a No.1 track using his music didn't give him anything - money or fame!! |
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AGMIS
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Posted : Jan 4, 2004 19:01
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error604 - i am not sure what the law says in India, but in the US such a situation is called "works for hire."
in this situation, the composer is paid a set amount of money, but does not get any credit at all. in fact, the person who hired the composer gets all the credit for the composition.
this is a very common practice in the US, but once again, i dont know the law in india.
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Nomolos(Zenon Rec.)
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Posted : Jan 5, 2004 01:32
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Agmis i just spoke to someone that works in one of the biggest internet sites in Israel(walla.co.il)
and he told me that all clubs should provide the local authority with a play list EVERY NIGHT and thats the way the artist will be rewarded for the times his track was played.
about the outdoor issue...oh man i just cant think of the day artists will start taking dj's to court for playing their track in a desert in some crazy country lets say in...the middle east , really there should be some logical limit to copyright laws.
in electronic music this is a bigger issue since its harder(for "inspectors" and some "fans" as well)
to recognize every track and report it to the artist/label.
have a nice TRIP.
Nomolos.
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Nomolos(Zenon Rec.)
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Posted : Jan 5, 2004 01:32
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beofre the "edit" this was a double post...sorry. |
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Borris
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Posted : Jan 14, 2004 23:54
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AGMIS, ACUM is not the RIAA, ACUM is a combination of ASCAP, BMI and SESAC with NMPA and HFA (Harry Fox agency). Israels RIAA counterorg is called the federation for records.
as to the indian example, the composer of the film wasn't hired by the tracks producer, they sampled his work from the film's soundtrack CD.
we had an example of "work for hire" in israel, Shahaf Schwartzman (of the late Power Source) was hired by Zvika Pick to arrange-produce the soundtrack to Dana International's big hit "Diva". Shahaf sued Zvika for not paying him, i don't remember how it ended, I'll ask him the next time i see him.
as to the remix debate. if u use ANY of the audio from the original track then it's a remix and it requires a licence. if u use the midi file but create your own audio then it's a cover (since using a midi file is like using a score-notes of a song) you don't need the aprovement of the composer but you'll get a reduced payment of mechanical and performance rights of your version since you only hold copyright for the arangement and not for the writing of the tune (which won't affect the advance/royalties the label pays you since they pay for master rights of YOUR recording).
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