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IL .24.8.07 the "under yoda beat" and the northen tribe - we haven't gave up! we won!
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d.j k-pax
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Posted : Aug 29, 2007 02:32
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i think its already way way FAR to stop now.....
we got some intrasting issuse to read/write in this topic...
shahar u r pathetic for writing down your "menu"..
where the hell you think you are?
first its not a "cheep fee" after all..
you forgot that we deal with NIS and not US/EURO and other corrency....... so all artists compare the money they make in their tours but YOU all forget that ppl complain about any price above 100 NIS on the entrance.....
so not even one pro' will be able to cut losses in a single party by going "world class" .....
2nd there is nothing bad/pathetic to "share a tread" with asi .... what?? being a part of the isratrance, alpha zero rec' and being 30 + (???) years old. nothing of this make you wiser/ more expiriened or whatever then a young guy that producing large amount of events every year?
and one of the more "trustble" ppl in the scene
like you said "hippies"---stay home and bitching about the world.......
as for yuli i agree you have every reason in the world to be pissed and disapointed but you should have waited for the production replay in this topic for exlanations and excuses or what ever neccary about what happend with your set not you and avishay......
but again if you didnt notice that by yourself let me give you a hint... (remamber our story with this forum?)
it never ended with good vibe and good relationship and we neded to speak face2face same "topic" over again.. this time we understood each other so....
peace
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ori_k
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Posted : Aug 29, 2007 04:35
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now everybody just calm down and think about how pathetic *they* are.. k?
seriously now
yuli-i like your music man.. i really do
but making good music doesn't make u a morally superior person-->
(surely i am not aware of all the little details in this manner, therefor it's not for me to decide whether anyone is right or wrong about it)
-->so i don't see fit your patronizing tone of speech
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shahar
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Posted : Aug 29, 2007 08:09
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On 2007-08-29 02:32, d.j k-pax wrote:
shahar u r pathetic for writing down your "menu"..
where the hell you think you are?
first its not a "cheep fee" after all..
you forgot that we deal with NIS and not US/EURO and other corrency....... so all artists compare the money they make in their tours but YOU all forget that ppl complain about any price above 100 NIS on the entrance.....
so not even one pro' will be able to cut losses in a single party by going "world class" .....
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I already said I am patethic, no? No need to rub it in, eh? 
Sorry, mate. I didn't understand what you wanted to say here. Can you explain? Are you sure it has to do with what I wrote?
Also, are you sure you got my point in my "list"? Read it again.
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2nd there is nothing bad/pathetic to "share a tread" with asi ....
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I didn't say that. I never mentioned Asi or anyone else of the organizers and my post wasn't written about them. I was talking to Peter D, whoever he is. You should read properly what people write before you answer. That way you wouldn't get angry for nothing and maybe write more to the point.
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what?? being a part of the isratrance, alpha zero rec' and being 30 + (???) years old. nothing of this make you wiser/ more expiriened or whatever then a young guy that producing large amount of events every year?
and one of the more "trustble" ppl in the scene
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It's Aleph Zero. And yeah, it might well be that my experience (going to parties since 1989), even if not making me wiser then anyone, teaches me a thing or two. I didn't write on the subject of this party, as I believed the guys had it hard enough and don't need any criticism from me here and now. But if we're on the subject, just so others can benefit. Look at it as a free advice. The second I got up that road and saw the ultra violet lights from the road I told my friend that there's no way this party is gonna stay till the end. This is Kazrin police area- and they NEVER let a party run if they find out about it. And when you see a party from the road, they're gonna find out about it. There are "magav" patrols in the Golan all night. It's pretty basic, actually.
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like you said "hippies"---stay home and bitching about the world.......
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I never bitch about the world. I like it and enjoy it very much. I do discuss things seriously in hope of making it better. I also have no intention to stay at home, I like it outside. Especially good parties.
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"Be the change you want to see in the world!"
M.K. Gandhi
"There is only one corner of the universe you can be certain of improving, and that's your own self."
Aldous Huxley
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Gaia Earth
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Posted : Aug 29, 2007 08:25
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Asi this is why I don't understand why you keep on making parties. Whatever you do, there will always be somebody that will not be happy about the situation. People in Israel (artists and party goers) tend to forget that nature parties are illegal. The moment an artist accepts to play in such a party he/she should take into consideration the risks involved - inlcuding not playing at that party eventually. Yes it sucks, but artists should understand it's not a club party.This is one of the reasons my boyfriend (that used to make a lot of parties in the past) stopped with it - eventually you are left alone paying all the debts and listening to all the complaints, and people forget all the beautiful things you did.
You did a great effort in pulling this party after all the difficulties you had. People don't understand that moving a party from one location to another demands a lot of effort and energies. So yes you didn't think straight or in a "logical" way in order to make "logical decisions" such as not cancelling the performances of Avishay and Yuli. Yes you should be sorry but again if people don't understand under what amount of pressure you were, it's too bad.
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tripless
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Posted : Aug 29, 2007 09:41
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On 2007-08-29 08:09, shahar wrote:
...The second I got up that road and saw the ultra violet lights from the road I told my friend that there's no way this party is gonna stay till the end. This is Kazrin police area- and they NEVER let a party run if they find out about it. And when you see a party from the road, they're gonna find out about it. There are "magav" patrols in the Golan all night. It's pretty basic, actually.
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u'r friend is tottaly right.
i'm dont remeber any try to make party at the Golan on the last 4 years that does'nt bump into this pigs from Katzrin...
they actually have nothing to do exept this.
"Instead of all the energy and effort directed at the war to end drugs,
how about a little attention to drugs which would end war?"
Albert Hofmann...
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Fu Hsi
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Posted : Aug 29, 2007 11:15
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@ ori_k and Gaia Earth
In my opinion there is a difference between being "patronizing" and "assertive". Sometimes thing should be said even if they are not easy or comfortable to hear. I believe with all my heart that assertiveness is essential to get us all better in what we do.
Indeed Ori, there are things that still I couldn't talk about and I wont talk about on public forum that make me right about my conclusions and what I wrote about. And from all the things I wrote all are facts backed up by reality, no half truths or lies. And sometimes looking at the mirror is not so nice.
Asi is a super nice guy, and the main reason that I did what I did, washing dirty laundry here apart of not being called by the organizers, is the fact that I considered those people good people that I trust blindly ( all of them I know for years ). It is not cool to be screwed by shitty people - but then the only person you can blame is yourself. But being screwed by good people sometimes is little more painful.
In my opinion every one should stand for his / her rights. This is the rightful thing to do. And if it has to be written in a public forum, and people read it, maybe in the end of the day it will serve the good and someone will learn from this experience.
I am SUPER SORRY for the production to get into this trouble by the way. I don't like anyone to have shit like this, but sometime during big shit other people that invest pretty much of their lives into what they do get screwed, so only because it may seem "unapropriate" we wont talk about it?..
I am a straight forward person in my life, and that straight forwardness caused me many times to loose those that couldn't deal with it. But I am perfectly calm with this, as I think in our world that is full of "political correctness" is a virtue.
Anyway I guess it's my last post to this thread ( some will say now - god bless for ridding us from him ) and I will finish with a small point.
I think it was Andersen that wrote about the small boy that shouted in the middle of the street that "THE KING IS NAKED!!". Everyone else seen that the king is naked but only the boy said it. The boy was naiive and blunt as little boys usually are. I don't mind being that boy from time to time - I really a sucker for this little kid, that still is not "trained" enough to hold his breath and shut up.
And if all that makes me Pathetic / Patronizing / something else flattering of the kind of these, then I guess I am.
Sorry for ruining the fun for everybody. Have a good day
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vio
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Posted : Aug 29, 2007 13:48
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hey yuli not ruined it was fun to waste my satla on this thread like the others i mentioned above......sorry i have fun on your nerves...
and ppl stop dissing hippies(like other groups) hehe why someone who complain is a hippie????hippies complain less believe u me................................ |
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hACKER
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Posted : Aug 29, 2007 15:15
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dear freinds -COME IN PEACE!!!
after all the big mess-it was very "cool" party even if it was in a different place
even if it was very hot
and even if things didnt go-BY THE BOOK
so realy thumbs up for all the big effort and u made me very pleased of hearing live the set of andrews-for me-how do we say in hebrew-ASITEM LI ET HAYOM...
thnx a lot guys for unusual way 2 end the week
c u soon
check out our new tunes-DESERT TIME&COLD CASE at
MYSPACE.COM/MUTELIRANROY
end of speach...
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Ben-G
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Posted : Aug 29, 2007 18:04
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hehehehe... 
I bearly read the forum anymore, but i decided to come and check how this party went since i believed it was going to be a really good 1.
first of all i must say kol hakavod to the production for making this party work after all the balagan that happened.
i have to quote shanti by saying "Yalla Yalla", i think some people here expect too much of this scene, and they think that if they chose music as their proffesion/they are big talents they can wash their dirty laundry in public (yulis' 1st post was on sunday noon and 2nd more provoking 1 was made at sunday night/monday morning), yuli could keep it in his pants and waited for asi to contact him or try to call again (no shame in that), but he prefered to put it up here for everybody to see, a very un-necessary action IMO!
when you trust somebody (like we all trust asi because we know he makes his partys for people to enjoy and not only for money like many other prod.), you don't pee on him on a public forum 2 days after the event happened, i believe with patience and taking things into proportion this whole ugly debate could have been avoided. |
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zevikgilad
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Posted : Aug 30, 2007 11:47
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hei 2 all!!
well at the end it was a great one..
it was supose 2 be the party of the year but..
4 all those party analist out ther:
i guess we r a bit 'tmimim', im from the valley and doing here parties for the last 4 years. and i now the katzerin police is a prob but..
4 our 2 oversea visitors we want to have a place with all the papers.and this place is doing outdoor event for the last 4 years like weddings and stuff. we have a signed contract with him but it seems that he so we preper to pay him a lot of money for an autorized place so he told as he have all the permit and if some one will come 4 the most, he will tell him that they will talk in the station on sunday, and it is written that all the permits b4, at & after the party its on his responsability.
i guess it didnt work for him like it didnt work 4 us!!!
second thing that we know by now is that the police was phoned and informed by a man called tzahi that was doing the security in our parties and fucked up. so we took 'meteor' 4 this one and ...
the third thing is that we were prepeared 4 enything, that why we had a generator at site for halpin in the place if needed and for second location if the worse will happend..
third thingo is, by the time we stated to move we discover that our sound track went home to yokneam cause the boss thought it is autorized(even that we told him we have a gen. for backup)so the music started just at 6am and not at 4am like we hoped!!!
for all those that it was ther first yoda or ubderground, in our parties allways we have a fullon act!!!!!!
we dont want and dont do party based just on prog!!!
by the way it didnt look like the dancefloor was waiting. ho ye it because most of our crowed like and want and gonna get FULLON on the morning!!!
now with all do respect we didnt cuncelled you 4 not paying and i told you im askin just to be understanding..
we cuncelled you cause we didnt expect enough people will stay. 4 the childish thing you wrote about ego:
i guess that if you were playing fullon/B.L.T you were playing but you told us more than unce, only prog!!
tom played with oshu that came all the way from b.sheva and it was a hell off a set and even by him self tom is one of the most talented new artist rising here
and me, well i was the progon/fullon act (read the above..) you dont have to like it but it was what the crowed needed!!
avishai i dont now you but the only time i heard you was.. at underground party last year so try not to spit to the gar you r also drinkin from. and i wish you were comin
tzadok try 2 call you the minute i closed it with yuli and you didnt anser him. why?
BIG BIG THANX to all our friends and party lovers, all those belivers that came and help in the move and didnt gave up on us
and made this an event to remamber after all!! yoda pro
makin vibes since 2003..
yoda pro & vibe-music
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the next best thing..
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LigaLize
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Posted : Aug 30, 2007 12:49
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for all those that it was ther first yoda or ubderground, in our parties allways we have a fullon act!!!!!!
we dont want and dont do party based just on prog!!!
by the way it didnt look like the dancefloor was waiting. ho ye it because most of our crowed like and want and gonna get FULLON on the morning!!! |
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I love this fullon disscussions 
Zeevik,i know lot of people who come too this party,frieds from parties,people from school and etc
I know people who come from B7 and Ashkelon for Yuli and Avishai set,they come too progressive party,i dont know what is (crowd need fullon) or something...it's very strange fore me.
So lot of people didnt enjoyed music that you played,they came for prog.
I consider that you should concede,and allow too play Yuli and Avishai b2b,or if it was money problem,only Avishai set...
Dance is - As a matter of fact, socially admissible public analogue of the sexual act :)
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Fu Hsi
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Posted : Aug 30, 2007 12:54
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There was NO money problem.We were expecting this gig, especially this was the only time we could do it before Avishay goes to travel.
We were canceled because the DJ's that didn't play @ night ( 3 - 5 slot ) played in the morning. Add to that one of them is the organizer, that makes total sense. What is so hard to understand?
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ori_k
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Posted : Aug 30, 2007 13:32
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politicians wanna converse
about this and that
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zevikgilad
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Posted : Aug 30, 2007 16:09
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hei ligliz.
i dont now what is wrong with you man
but you keep on comin to my party in the last 3 years i think since the happy days of shaldag. and all the time you just keep on beechin so why the hell you keep on comin to my parties if you not enjoy in them???
by the way i now people that came from 'ma'ale karhot, from 'bareket city' and from the big vally of the jordan river that wanted to here some fullOn in the morning.
so give me a brake!!
yoda pro
makin vibes since 2003..
yoda pro & vibe-music
---- UNITYFESTIVAL2009 ----
the next best thing..
not just different, BETTER!!! |
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d.j k-pax
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Posted : Aug 30, 2007 17:20
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zeevik despite your personal opininion/taste of music U CAN NOT say to your crowed (ligalize is one of them) what they came to hear.....
and u booked perfect stranger not blt so its your responebility........
some come to prog some to full-on and some just to be with their freinds ......
and i never read before a post of the org "why the hell u keep coming" if u dont want each pearson who complains to come to your partys then check again the "heat and kitchen thing" but i know that you are not like that so let them talk and u keep on the great job ...
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