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How do you experience trance and D...gs with religion

acidonacid
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Posted : May 20, 2005 23:27
to andrejcid
Come on buddy..
I dont judge nobody as you said. I just say my opinion like the other ppl here. Thats all. If you like it is ok if you dont is fine also.

'ppl like us' & 'ppl like u', which not necesarily intentional, yet does sound (and IS) patronising to a group. you say
and I say about this: first of all I dont patronize nobody man and secont yes ppl like u and ppl like us. it happen every day to have different opinion with a person like we two now. This is no bad and this is the way to explain it. so simple.

personally, i would not allow trance to be 'my way of life' you say and I say for me maybe is. is that bad?

regarding religion vs trance & drugs I think it is a matter of choise and personal character you say. I agree 100% here!

I could be biased though, as i've been doing science for quite a few years and thus cannot just accept everything if not provided with apropriate arguments, not necesarily scientific ofcourse. you say.
First you tell me about science and then not scientific offcurse? you comfuse me..

anyway I will like to tell you more but my English is poor and is difficult for me to explain more. (I try hard to understud your post).
And a last think for you and all of you LOL
Is no bad if somebody believes somewhere if this thing make them more strong in his day life or his live.
pleace RESPECT this. I am not the only one here with the same mind. some ppl in this topic have UNITY to this point.
anyway PEACE brother and dont forget: I LOVE you all..


take care also buddy.

          
Open your mind...
Moonsun
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Posted : May 21, 2005 00:08
give me some stories about rituals you heard of in parties or festivals ,,stories you have heard..religion paths youv heard any thing to do with trance ..d...gs and spirituality
soul_rebel


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Posted : May 21, 2005 05:16
Is there someone here, who remebering...one party at Paranesti at 23/08/1998?...
Not at the place which this year is gonna happen...
Only one i know who is in this site...but i dont have any...epikoinwnia!...with him.
(Ε Κουλούρα...γειά σου αδερφέ...ό Γιώργος από Ακτίνα!...αλλά καί στά πάρτυ στό Acid...)

Well...my friend moonsun...after this party, me...i just lived this place for 6 years almost...one very good friend, i learned...that he just hang up himshelf from a tree outside of the church of his village...sunday morning...
Gopendragon
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Posted : May 21, 2005 09:09
Quote:

On 2005-05-20 17:42, dj moonsun wrote:
trance is a way of life and it combaines religion,have you ever gone high to spiritual places with other religion..have you seen so much deco of gods in other music..why do people go to goa ..did you know that artists like mark allen wrote there first tracks in goa ,,and most djs in 1990 went to goa and when they went home all those goa tracks you call hymes where mad..do you belive in karma which india meditates on..i think when the heads of trance put there minds to make this cursed music they touched religion to it..as god mad them.


psy trance is very spiritual music sounds speak by their own diferent echo.
religion is an important part for the essence of trance dance.
decos with Shiva Nataraja's tandav the lord of dance is well related in music because he symbolizes and represents a lot of common things with our culture(p.l.u.r.)
Shiva in his wild dance keeping a knife with flames at his right hand and a dark skull on his left as he dances to shake up all the universe,the dark skull symbolizes ignorance ,shiva is cutting through the ignorance withe knife and lighting darkness with flames as he dances.Shiva created hashis so "boom shankar" in every chilum or joint we smoke ,it si a sacred ritual time and we must respect that mystic spirit.
psymeditation through trance dance ,one of the thousand diferent yoga types.

@dj moonsun ..last summer at boom portugal after my soma(amanita muscareum,mentioned in Baghavad Gitta ancient scriptures as soma and the drinkers who meditate with that substance) drink and when that magic substance started to wake up inside my soul,I tried my spiritual noon practise listening to music in yogic lotus pose...after 30 minutes meditation ...my third eye was wide opened and energised much...reached a state where I was able to see with closed eyes a yantra and sounds in a visual form...energies in mathematical shapes moving like...very dificult spiritual visionary mystic experience to explain...karma hehe if you believe in the laws of reincarnation send me a pm to give an easy and analytic psykarma point of view...!!!
...to be continiued...
          ~~~~~~~namaskar~~~~~~~~~
After the End,a new Begining startS..
acidonacid
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Posted : May 21, 2005 10:29

I was there and I know buddy..
          
Open your mind...
acidonacid
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Posted : May 21, 2005 11:09
Quote:

On 2005-05-20 15:44, Electro wrote:
I have to give my respect to andrejcid!!
Its one of the most intresting posts i have ever seen here!




Maybe because you are the same person.
If somebody look your profile both of them has created the same date jun-2-02. Or is just luck?
Electro is the bissness man and he want our money for sonica with his travel office
and you are the usual andrejcid.. (eristic)
CHEAP TRICK buddy..

          
Open your mind...
tim@motion


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Posted : May 21, 2005 13:19
Quote:

On 2005-05-21 05:16, soul_rebel wrote:
Is there someone here, who remebering...one party at Paranesti at 23/08/1998?...
Not at the place which this year is gonna happen...
Only one i know who is in this site...but i dont have any...epikoinwnia!...with him.
(Ε Κουλούρα...γειά σου αδερφέ...ό Γιώργος από Ακτίνα!...αλλά καί στά πάρτυ στό Acid...)

Well...my friend moonsun...after this party, me...i just lived this place for 6 years almost...one very good friend, i learned...that he just hang up himshelf from a tree outside of the church of his village...sunday morning...




At last.I was about to post about this xperience soul rebel.
On this fest at paranesti...actualy it was on (6-7-8 sept 97) there was one guy who first started kicking the speakers yealing "YOU ARE ALL DEVILS" , then he started runing like crazy with all of his friends after him trying to calm him down.After one month he hanged himself.

He stuck in a devil's theory under the influence of a specific acid paper named (panoramix)...

This is my story about rituals.I still can not forget it.
          don't fuck with me
Electro


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Posted : May 21, 2005 13:30
so, more spiritual propaganda from acid on acid...
The only thing i said is that its is a very intresting post, presenting facts and well writen ideas and conclusions...
If its wright or wrong is not up to anybody to deside or to know for sure...
u may think u know it all but i dont...
Its only a well written opinion!

conserning your conclusion about me... you can learn from other ppl in here if u ask, if i am the same person with andrejcid.

Again u make easy conclusions without any serius research, a thing that reflects all ur posts!!!

the mind opens througth reasearch and learning not by unbased theorys & post and a "open your mind " tag in the end.
acidonacid
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Posted : May 21, 2005 14:24
Let's see:
so, more spiritual propaganda from acid on acid... you say.

I say: I dont make propaganda I just say my personal beliefes like everybody in this forum andrejcid. Is that bad?
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conserning your conclusion about me... you can learn from other ppl in here if u ask, if i am the same person with andrejcid. you say.

I say:
Is anybody here know both of you? I dont think so..
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Again u make easy conclusions without any serius research, a thing that reflects all ur posts!!!
You say

My opinion?
I make a research and I use the search!
and I find this about you: 3 posts. 2 for your work and one "bravo andrejcid" in this 3 years!
And both of this nicnames was created befor 3 years as profile say the same day!! unbilieveble!
Play a lotto man!
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the mind opens througth reasearch and learning not by unbased theorys & post and a "open your mind " tag in the end. You say:

I tell you about this.
The mind open when you see behind the visible like now.
You dont need drugs or something for this.
You dont need a religion also. The only thing you need is faith.
Faith in things make you stronger. Thats all.



          
Open your mind...
Electro


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Posted : May 21, 2005 15:41
just think for a moment the possibility that me and andrejcid are not the same person...

how silly does this makes you?

Do not take things for granted so easily, cause u could make a fool out of your self.

i could awnser again to all ur points, but i c no point... (it has become personal & out of topic)

be well
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Posted : May 21, 2005 15:50
i have to agree that acidonacid makes huge propaganda not about spirituality BUT drug related spirituality, which finaly is a joke bcz any feeling which is evoked by drugs is not real.

yeah go out pop some acid, love the whole world, and then when the drug influence is over, let us all go back to our normal moneysucking egotripping everyday life...what the hell! at next saturday's party we can pop a pill and love the whole world again...in a spiritual way of course, we can even speak about the revelating influence goa had in our lives and bla bla bla....wakey wakey it's monday again! start cursing at other ppl cause they dont start their car the second the green light goes on, shout at your employees, curse at your bloodsucking boss...try to rip off some more money at any chance you get, pay half your salary to the goverment for medical coverage and pention that you will never actually have, see tatiana on prime time tv, see our spiritual church leaders riping off small minded ppl that give their money and property to the church so they can have a seat next to god when they die..and the list goes on and on...but what the hell it's saturday again, we take some mdma, put on our goa outfit and go to a trance party where we can be "spiritual" and dream of goa...ou la la
wow what a way to experience religion with drugs and music...it's our weekend hobby! nice one...

reality check point. you want spirituality man, start a revolution. get off your ass and your egotripping drug attitude and do sth about this shit world that you love when you're high and you hate when you're sobber. you want spirituality look at kolokotronis, look at che gevara, mother tereza, ghandi, look at fidel kastro ppl with a vision - this is spirituality. not the vision of goa - which i will say once more has nothing to do with trance music. i can not believe what egotripping motherfuckers we trancers are. we think that dancing in the forest with psy music and drugs makes us spiritual!!!!!!!

...soon we will think that acid is a godsent substance that evokes spirituality or expands our mind capacity...a holly communion of some kind...

ksefigame paidia!!!!!! ksekoliste! ta xoume kanei ola axtarma, droges theoi thriskeies demones kai mousiki! sinelthete!!!!!!!!!
          ...::: If video games had influenced us, then the Pacman generation would be running around in dark rooms, eating pills and listening to repetitive music :::...
andrejcid
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Posted : May 21, 2005 15:51
Quote:

Maybe because you are the same person.
If somebody look your profile both of them has created the same date jun-2-02. Or is just luck?
Electro is the bissness man and he want our money for sonica with his travel office
and you are the usual andrejcid.. (eristic)
CHEAP TRICK buddy..





wtfuuuck???
hahahahahahaaaaaa
u summed it up again with easy conclusions...really really low...
tell ya something, when u dont want to have your beliefs&views challenged, just dont say them as there will always b someone to shake them up abit. if u do like them to be heard, then be rady to defend them with arguments upon which u base those views/beliefs of yours.
when one has no developed arguments, it may be a good idea to think about the reason for that, instead of reaching for the gun and attacking.
regarding andrejcid = electro, although I can, Im not planing to prove you wrong, bcause some things r just facts. but if u do your 'reasearch' (lol) without any prejudiced assumption u will eventually come up with the answer.

Quote:

...my all life is religious in trance states even in my daily life hehe...spirits around spirits into religious mysticsm rituals from all of the members of the tribe...yes a universal religion,all diferent religion kinds beliefs ideas colors minds souls in an infinite ocean of collective conciousnes in unison,union for each diferent type form of life in the reality of our existance by the trance dance psywaypathscapes discovering 3dimensial virt5ual realities in front of our eyes like 3dfractal tunels in the sky to expand mind and trip through the sound fractal echoes transformated in digital audio comunication folowing the beat rythm and falling in deep trance...tears of joy touching the supreme,(or a wild one demonic like a shaman who fights with his soul to win the enemy spirit and dont get posessed) an ecstatic dance like swiming in vibe waves of that unconditional love...as the rythm goes decos with mandalas and yantras starting to became alive...the safe trip as the music comes inside deco I dance cathcing the rythm and folowing the 3dmovements moving inside the tunnel around like spirall runing around fastforward the future or even back if we need to wash the dirty or to find ancient sacred mystic wise enlighted knowledge that we all need,...as an old wise great shaman said "we all are like spiders running through the cosmic web and having access in every monent for every tresure secret we want to reach somwehere in that web...!!!!



GOPENDRA matey, care to explain what u wrote there to us humble earthlings?
it is indeed a nice composition of rather 'exotic' & hype but sorry to say meaningless words...
u r welcome to prove me wrong tho..

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Quote:

you want spirituality man, start a revolution. get off your ass and your egotripping drug attitude and do sth about this shit world that you love when you're high and you hate when you're sobber. you want spirituality look at kolokotronis, look at che gevara, mother tereza, ghandi, look at fidel kastro ppl with a vision - this is spirituality. not the vision of goa - which i will say once more has nothing to do with trance music. i can not believe what egotripping motherfuckers we trancers are. we think that dancing in the forest with psy music and drugs makes us spiritual!!!!!!!



well said :: :: ::,
'this shit world that you love when you're high and you hate when you're sobber.'
haha the above is a very common phenomena with us 'trancers'. it is not the world we should change in order to enjoy it when not 'high', it is rather our perception that should be modified and expanded. the world is changing anyways, its our perception and views that can often get trapped somewhere....causing us troubles
          Why u little !!!
Psy_mystic
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Posted : May 21, 2005 16:14
GOPENDRA tried to describe the undescribable .
his words may not b sufficient to fully describe it but definitely not "meaningless" .imho as always


peace           "Detox is for queers"
Electro


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Posted : May 21, 2005 16:23
I have to say that this post has made me lauph as hell...

some highlights...

Quote:
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On 2005-05-19 12:37, ACIDONACID wrote:

I think if you dance in Goa at Shivas temple under
the influence of psychedelics then you
will have a trance religion experience!
________________________________________

Have a couple more drops and you'll have a trance religion experience in the shitter.



alah is connected with rock !??!!! wake up, do some homework, start reading some facts ppl.


Quote:
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On 2005-05-19 16:30, dj moonsun wrote:but trance is goa trance ..goa is spiritual ..saw the 1ns that shit on spiritual ,shit on the music...thats true///combian why you see shadows or serpants or devils in this music ...and the 1ns that read playboy and shit ,,have now were to reach no goal in life..a circle with no way out
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Wow! You are so enlightened and spiritual! Fuck that, you are so cool!


Nah, I reach a higher state of conciousness reading Playboy when I'm in the toilet. Somehow playmates stimulate my mind and body more than pink Kali's.


...soon we will think that acid is a godsent substance that evokes spirituality or expands our mind capacity...a holly communion of some kind...

GOPENDRA matey, care to explain what u wrote there to us humble earthlings?


I did not pasted all these to offend anybody.
But from my (maybe wrong) point of view, there are so dawmn funny!!!
:: :: ::


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Posted : May 21, 2005 16:32
Quote:


.. it is not the world we should change in order to enjoy it when not 'high', it is rather our perception that should be modified and expanded. the world is changing anyways, its our perception and views that can often get trapped somewhere....causing us troubles



i agree totaly.
the world is changing and it is evolving into a shit hole. our perception has to change, you are right, the key word is change and not adjust..i refuse to adjust my perception in order to comply with the world's shitty evolution...part of this shitty evolution is religions and drugs...
          ...::: If video games had influenced us, then the Pacman generation would be running around in dark rooms, eating pills and listening to repetitive music :::...
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