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Hinduism- The Purest form of Capitalism
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Kras
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Posted : Dec 25, 2009 17:40
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On 2009-12-25 01:53, Login wrote:
If you and me were in an Island alone, we could have the freedom to interchange goods, you fish, I hunt, we interchange and free market arises. |
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Either you are undereducated or you just spread cheap propaganda. In your example there is no economic system at all. All philosophers that you quote are from middle-to-upper class background. They are white men rised by culture that build itself on robbing other cultures that didn't developed gunpowder. The guru of "free market", Milton Friedman, the author of "Capitalism and Freedom" (if I remember it correctly), this same guy that is often quoted by anarcho(sic!)-capitalists, used his connections to force his ideas every time when people were in state of shock because of war or natural disaster (see New Orlean's privatization of public school after the strike of Cathrina or forced liberalization of Iraq and Afghanistan).
The only people that have interests in capitalism are those that profit in any way from corporations. Against the rest, they have guns, police and copyright laws 
Face it, "common people" don't want capitalism and they face brutal repression every time they dare to stand out for their rights. Look at the rise of leftist presidents in Latin America or massive anti-globalist movement in Western Block. |
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IsraTrance Full Member
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Posted : Dec 26, 2009 03:18
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On 2009-12-25 17:40, Kras wrote:
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On 2009-12-25 01:53, Login wrote:
If you and me were in an Island alone, we could have the freedom to interchange goods, you fish, I hunt, we interchange and free market arises. |
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Either you are undereducated or you just spread cheap propaganda. In your example there is no economic system at all. All philosophers that you quote are from middle-to-upper class background. They are white men rised by culture that build itself on robbing other cultures that didn't developed gunpowder. The guru of "free market", Milton Friedman, the author of "Capitalism and Freedom" (if I remember it correctly), this same guy that is often quoted by anarcho(sic!)-capitalists, used his connections to force his ideas every time when people were in state of shock because of war or natural disaster (see New Orlean's privatization of public school after the strike of Cathrina or forced liberalization of Iraq and Afghanistan).
The only people that have interests in capitalism are those that profit in any way from corporations. Against the rest, they have guns, police and copyright laws
Face it, "common people" don't want capitalism and they face brutal repression every time they dare to stand out for their rights. Look at the rise of leftist presidents in Latin America or massive anti-globalist movement in Western Block.
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ok so what is your propoisal for a better world?
And show me that it works
 "The dedication to repetition — the search for nirvana in a single held tone or an endlessly cycling rhythm — is one of electronic music's noblest gestures." |
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Kras
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Posted : Dec 26, 2009 18:29
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ok so what is your propoisal for a better world?
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It's people who make the world. So if you want to see a better world then you need to start with living a better life. Meditation is very helpful and attachment to any system is slowing your development.
I'm not struggling for any new system, I'm opposing social institutions like government, patriarchy or corporations that worsen situation of other people and claim that they are doing it in my name. This world faces many problems and debates about systems are turning our attention from actually doing something. When there are clear evidences that relaxing regulations imposed on free market are worsening the situation of poorer part of society then why to defend this idea? Because someone is a good, intelligent writer?
Why the market was regulated in the first place? Because without regulations situation of poor people was so bad that the only solution was a revolution. If you want to turn smiling hippies into violent rioters then hold your believes.
It's not an utopia, I'm not the only one. We are counted in hundreds of millions and our numbers are rising. We are a diverse, living movement and our actions are based on true democracy. You can be part of that change or be an obstacle. Life is about choices. |
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IsraTrance Full Member
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Posted : Dec 28, 2009 19:41
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Then go back and read my entire post, I'm anarchist and while for me a well regulated capitalism works, it may not for other people and I understand that:
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But there is no ideal solution for everybody, and thats whats really rotten in modern democracy, it forces upon everyone the majority decission. How a goverment can represent 300 million people in USA or 1,000 million like in India, for me thats the problem, the bigger the country the less represented you are and by result the system isnt what you like.
I think the best thing that could happen is a fragmentation of many countries, and that everyone has the right to choose where to live, in a communist state, an ultra anarco-capitalis one, a liberal democracy, a social democracy a monarchy and what ever, but everybody will have what they want and will be happy, no more "Mine is best".
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"The dedication to repetition — the search for nirvana in a single held tone or an endlessly cycling rhythm — is one of electronic music's noblest gestures." |
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IsraTrance Full Member
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Posted : Dec 28, 2009 19:50
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double post sorry "The dedication to repetition — the search for nirvana in a single held tone or an endlessly cycling rhythm — is one of electronic music's noblest gestures." |
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