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IsraTrance Junior Member
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Posted : Jun 18, 2004 01:40
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I need help to create leads, i have the sounds but the notes structure is what screws me, i want to know if there a re some specific scales recommended, i really dont like to insert a bunch of notes and then take some out. my music knowledge is basic but a good tip would be appreciated. |
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mubali
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Posted : Jun 18, 2004 02:35
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One of the things I do for leads is to have the lead be very similar to the bassline.... But I do a few other things to the pattern. For some parts I'll use 32nd notes or have one of the notes extend an extra 16th note or something like that...
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Jeto
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Posted : Jun 18, 2004 05:12
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be an real artist and take a pencil and start to draw and keep practice and also use eraser and keep try till it is good.
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limbic
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Posted : Jun 18, 2004 10:40
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the best melodies is thos eones who has no sense of musica l theory behind them...just wicked..flow wirh your pencil as saqid dont be afriad to mistake because this is the mistake itself... |
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Posted : Jun 18, 2004 15:13
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On 2004-06-18 10:40, limbic wrote:
the best melodies is thos eones who has no sense of musica l theory behind them...
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Somehow i am not sure abot that part, theory could be very usefull, even when u dont follow its rules.
There r some great links in this forum ...
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Trip-
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Posted : Jun 18, 2004 15:39
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it doesn't matter what melody
everything has a theory.... even without u knowing
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medir
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Posted : Jun 18, 2004 15:46
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On 2004-06-18 15:39, Trip- wrote:
everything has a theory.... even without u knowing
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...even this forum got some
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make it your motto day and night.
experiment,
and it will lead you to the light.
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alonisim
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Posted : Jun 19, 2004 11:58
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My advice- go learn some scales.
you can take lessons,
you can try to play some of other people's melodys
and then try to learm how they're built (regarding to the main note-the bass).
after all, he who deals with music has to know...
MUSIC !!
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UIU
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Posted : Jun 19, 2004 18:34
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One easy thing to do I see many artists doing, especially in full on is make a simple slow melody and then fill in the gaps with 1/16th or 1/8th notes that are the same with or complement the bass line so that it will be faster. |
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Kaz
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Posted : Jun 19, 2004 20:13
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One of the things I do for leads is to have the lead be very similar to the bassline.... But I do a few other things to the pattern. For some parts I'll use 32nd notes or have one of the notes extend an extra 16th note or something like that...
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Yes, this is exactly the thing you want to do if you want your tracks to sound like formula dancefloor stuff and not like music. Please, please, please stop working like this. This is one of the best ways to make your music not psychedelic and not interesting.
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the best melodies is thos eones who has no sense of musica l theory behind them...just wicked..flow wirh your pencil as saqid dont be afriad to mistake because this is the mistake itself...
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Bullsh*t. Trip- got it right - if it sounds good, then there's a theory that it follows. A few hundred years of creating musical theories in the western world pretty much covered it all.
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One easy thing to do I see many artists doing, especially in full on is make a simple slow melody and then fill in the gaps with 1/16th or 1/8th notes that are the same with or complement the bass line so that it will be faster.
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Do you know people who say "all psytrance sounds the same to me"? This is one of the reasons why.
You want some honest advice? You don't need to know anything about musical theory. Just do what sounds good. Build your percussion around the leads and not vice versa and then you'll see that even leads that sound like shit with a standard full-on bassline/percussion combination can suddenly be groovy and extremely energetic (examples: tracks by GBU, Hallucinogen, Saiko Pod, Prometheus, Infected Mushroom, the Antidote and so on).
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EYB
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Posted : Jun 19, 2004 21:38
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'...Build your percussion around the leads and not vice versa...'
don't understand this point 
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Kaz
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Posted : Jun 19, 2004 22:34
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Start out with making leads and a kick, only then adding a bassline to fit with the lead, and only after that start adding your percussion. Make everything make the lead sound better, work by the lead's rhythm... and all of a sudden your track is as funky as it gets.
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EYB
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Posted : Jun 19, 2004 22:39
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Now i got it  , thanks!
But sounds easier than it properbly is. Signature |
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WAVELOGIX
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Posted : Jun 20, 2004 00:12
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infact kaz this is reall good way of working man ...
really thanks a lot for this idea (Y)
i studied music for 10 yrs now and can imagine how it will work ...
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fuzzikitten
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Posted : Jun 20, 2004 01:56
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On 2004-06-19 22:34, kaz wrote:
...Make everything make the lead sound better, work by the lead's rhythm...
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Extending from this idea, if we design a song to have one purpose, one drop, where the lead explodes out from, then it will sound even better.
Also don't forget the power of silence - before there can be a great sounding lead we have to build room for it. |
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