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Hallucinogen successor (imo) finally remixes one of his tracks :)
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klippel
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Posted : Feb 5, 2014 16:26
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there are tracks that should not be remixed, lsd is one of them.
it is so spot on, you can only loose.
and i agree, more salt in the soup does not make it taste better, per default.
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"I've always been a believer in musical repetition to draw in the listener and make the music hypnotic. Another thing I believe in is repetition." Alan Parsons |
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Feb 6, 2014 01:42
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I just don't get why you worship that much a guy so much like there is no other that can do either good or hey.. even better?
Why these seem to be blasphemy to compare some other producer to Simon Posford?
He is not a magician, he is a human being a spirit like us.
Also I find his sound absolutely not timeless it is very old fashioned meanwhile, and I bet the newer generation likes lots of others much more.
Also don't forget that -Hallucinogen- has nothing really done since almost 20 years not even one single album if just for his followers or loyal fans.
His two not bad ones were finalized ages ago or somewhere in the 1990's.
And lets agree atleast on the fact that Shpongle is absolutely something diffrent than Hallucinogen so that does not count and so he simply decided to went through the exit. Also I think it deserves atleast a honest comparison to some psytrance producers and and atleast a free open minded discussion.
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goaren
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Posted : Feb 6, 2014 08:59
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TT - i do agree with you that simon's work as hallucinogen is way over regarded and i dont really understand why he was put on this iconic pedestal, my view on this issue is due to the fact that his music was so different than everything else out there at the time and for the exact reason that he didnt release any album since the lone deranger (not including in dub, but thats ott already  ) - i mean i personally love his work, i dont regard of him as "the most genius/best psychedelic trance producer in history" - hes just among the list of artists that i really appreciate and would love to hear something new from them (just like a new green nuns or prana track for that matter) - and as such i love to hear developments in the direction he initially took |
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PoM
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Posted : Feb 6, 2014 14:01
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to me all classic tunes can t be remixed...it s sure to be a fail except if you don t know much the original or havent experienced his success back then..
even remix by the same artist when made years later are fail most of the times , to me..
about posford his sound was one of the most distinguishable , like it or not 10 sec are enought to spot his touch . he didnt have any copycat till today i think?maybe cause his composition is of a high standar technically dunno..and cause of his rig too..this remix i don t like the production for example.. it s maybe better than the original but the sound caractere sound kinda fake .
his work from 94 to 97 not a single bad tunes mostly bombs i guess, then come lone deranger who kinda disapointing imo but still good..after it s taste..but many like his sound cause of this unic touch he have, some tunes are made in a way to make you hallucinate with strange sound ect.. |
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Feb 7, 2014 18:49
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On 2014-02-06 08:59, goaren wrote:
...i dont really understand why he was put on this iconic pedestal
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To this day, LSD is the only track I've ever seen whose release was advertised with a full-size billboard advertising campaign. The ad hoarding I remember most was in Brixton, right near the Fridge venue (home to Return To The Source, Otherworld, Escape From Samsara and Science Fiction, the four monthly nights that formed the core of the London psytrance scene in the 1990s). Promotion = fame; promotion costs money, therefore wealth = fame. Sorry for the cynicism.
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Feb 7, 2014 19:29
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randulon
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Posted : Feb 7, 2014 21:46
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So what's the foundation of his fame...his wealth or his talent? I wasn't quite sure which one you were going for...
And presumably the label (Dragonfly at the time?) payed for the promotion? And Youth was/is quite successful and consequently wealthy...so if you meant the former maybe that had nothing to do with it...I'm not a Posford worshipper by the way, just not sure I agree with you about the wealth thing. I may be wrong though. |
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klippel
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Posted : Feb 9, 2014 19:19
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to me lsd is just a perfect track. by the time i heard it first i did not even now who hallucinogen or posford was and i could not have cared less about billboard promotion and things, but this track just beamed me up and it still does to this very day.
with lsd and some other of his early works + the first sphongle album i am pretty sure simon would have made his no matter if being rich kid or not.. and who is to blame him for having rich parents, i am happy he invested his money into gear and a psy trance label rather than hookers and blow.
that said i am not a fan of most hallucinogen tracks or a fanboy at all, but giving credit to some of his outstanding work is just fair imo.
http://www.ektoplazm.com/free-music/stereofeld-frequenzwechsel
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willsanquil
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Posted : Feb 10, 2014 03:22
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all I know is that I didn't listen to ANY of this music until at least 2003 so I had no preconceived notions...and when I first heard hallucinogen it was like something magical happened.
the sounds and patterns had a significantly different effect on me than anything else ive heard then or since.
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faxinadu
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Posted : Feb 10, 2014 10:47
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Upavas
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Posted : Feb 10, 2014 12:44
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You can be a less than mediocre musician and be famous, because you have a big advertisement campaign. And you can be a brilliant musician whom hardly every anybody has heard of! Go to New Orleans, and listen somewhere in some of the side streets or even at the bank of the Mississippi river and you will hear fantastic music, better than any of the pop bullshit out there by a long shot, Nectarios would say they piss over pop in a wide arc... but no fame, because no advertisement. Therefor I am 100% with Colin when he says:
\ Promotion = fame; promotion costs money, therefore wealth = fame.
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randulon
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Posted : Feb 10, 2014 13:04
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What about The Beatles? |
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randulon
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Posted : Feb 10, 2014 13:30
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Or Grandmaster Flash? Or Black Sabbath? Or...etc. Surely it's more about being in the right time at the right place...no amount of money can buy success if the talent and hard work is not there...
Just to reiterate: I am not a Posford fanboy... |
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klippel
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Posted : Feb 10, 2014 13:35
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On 2014-02-10 13:30, randulon wrote:
Or Grandmaster Flash? Or Black Sabbath? Or...etc. Surely it's more about being in the right time at the right place...no amount of money can buy success if the talent and hard work is not there...
Just to reiterate: I am not a Posford fanboy...
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+1
i mean, surely you can buy everything, even good producers and whatnot and just become famous due to excessive marketing and minimum standard products.
but for underground music?
http://www.ektoplazm.com/free-music/stereofeld-frequenzwechsel
"I've always been a believer in musical repetition to draw in the listener and make the music hypnotic. Another thing I believe in is repetition." Alan Parsons |
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Posted : Feb 10, 2014 13:52
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On 2014-02-10 13:30, randulon wrote:
Or Grandmaster Flash? Or Black Sabbath? Or...etc. Surely it's more about being in the right time at the right place...no amount of money can buy success if the talent and hard work is not there...
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This reminds me of the tales about David Gilmour joining Floyd cause his folks had money and he could afford new equipment...
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