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krelm
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Posted : Jul 23, 2003 11:43
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Great news for Metallica, Brittney Spears and Sony (etc.)....alas, no news for psytrance labels & artists.
No legal action against individuals sharing files will EVER have any effect on the psytrance scene. If the RIAA was able to shut down the means for trading, such as Direct Connect, Soulseek, etc, that would for sure mean something.
But this action affects ONLY people in the US who are sharing HUGE amounts of music protected under the RIAA. This does nothing about the ftp servers, the psytrance mp3 ripping groups (most of whom are not in the US, I am sure), the people who share & download gigs of psytrance, etc...sales will still suck and labels will still close.
If the RIAA and the music industry really want to make a difference for themselves, they should either a) keep legal pressure on the file sharing services (difficult, but they have occasional successes and could eventually have some sort of broader legal precedent) or b) try to somehow grasp the technology for profit (ie, iTunes, which has been wildly successful and will be expanding into PC markets in a few months). But by going after the individual users (the "Metallica method"), they are just shooting themselves in the foot.
Now, if psy labels & artists want to do something about trading....well, I don't see much they can do, unfortunately. They really can't lower their prices (the economics of running a label has been discussed here and on EVERY message board), they are too small and financially tight to have any legal clout. They are completely at the mercy of the buyers. Sort of a dead-end situation, IMO. 
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Basilisk
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Posted : Jul 23, 2003 22:20
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Go to the next level, thats what I say. The internet has great power if wielded effectively... labels have to stop being victims and start pro-actively seeking different methodologies for music publishing in the digital age.
Here's another article (vaguely unrelated) that doesn't suck as much...
http://apple.slashdot.org/apple/03/07/22/1428201.shtml?tid=141&tid=188
91% share to the artist!!
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yossi
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Posted : Jul 25, 2003 15:52
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well... its very far from beeing good news indeed.
i think that just Bcoz RIAA feel so helpless they feel that they gotta do something... anything, even if its stupid and ridiculous.
and im preaty sure that they know that it wont help or change anything. just an action to shut some mouths for a while...
im preaty positive that as we speak some guy sit`s @ home and build`s the next file sharing program... that obviously will be better then the last one, and so on...
so as i see it, RIAA los this war long time ago, they just wont face it, or too afraid to announce it.
sad but true, a Sort of a dead-end situation.
ps: i realy do believe that lowering the cd prices is possible, but to do that... alot of ppl need to put a side their ego and greed.
wich seems like a mission impossible for now.
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DETOX
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Posted : Jul 25, 2003 16:50
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Cd is better quality than vinyl 
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krelm
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Posted : Jul 25, 2003 17:06
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I think a switch to vinyl would maybe help, but not solve the problem. Unfortunately, there are enough vinyl ripping groups (tronik, for example) that still manage to get ahold of promos so that most tracks are available on the file sharing networks weeks ahead of the proper release. Granted, this is most a factor in the house/breaks/progressive scenes where most release are on vinyl. However, I am sure it would be just as rampant with psy releases were there a greater percentage of vinyl releases.
You would just have DJs showing up to gigs with CDRs full of mp3s originally burned from vinyl recordings. And you will nearly never see a psytrance party without a pair of CDJs.
It doesn't affect othe scenes so heavily because most of the DJs are still married to the idea of lugging around vinyl. That attitude is slowly eroding, but it is still going to be a long time before you see a large number of progressive, house, or breakbeat DJs showing up to a gig with a case of CDs - something which is fully accepted at psy parties (the last gig I played didn't even have a pair of turntables available).
The psy DJ culture is already so entrenched in CDs that a partial or even wholesale return to vinyl (hypothetical, of course...vinyl releases will continue to fade, I am sure) would only mean that a ripper would simply need a decent turntable and analog to digital converter. But once you get even one copy on Soulseek or DC or any of the other networks, the sharing would be just as rampant and simple as with CD-based rips.
In the end, you are right....there is probably nothing that the labels or RIAA can do to stop sharing & piracy. The only solution is if people decide to buy more CDs. Period. The situation with psy labels is such that even if 1000 people start buying CDs regularly it will make a difference....their small size, scope, and output means that a relatively small change in sales (on the order of even 1000-2000 units or less) can either put them under or keep them on safe ground.
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yossi
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Posted : Jul 25, 2003 18:05
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first of all... @ Detox - dont even go there, cd dosnt come near by to the quality of a vinyl.
im sure that if u`ll search the forums u`ll find lots of threads about it.
about the vinyl comeback... i wish, im a freak of 12" _
but as mentioned, its not cheep to print them or to buy them. but as Krelm said, the psy scene is way deep into the cd mentality, so im not sure that the vinyl comeback will do the work.
few thoughts about it:
1- the dj`s themselves, dont bother to buy originals... so why the hell the croud/listeners will?!?!
2- as i see it... psytrance dosnt requires some super unique dj skills, much less then lets say techno, bnd, breakbeat ect ect... so cdj`s r kinnda perfect for it.
better for outdoor, cheeper to buy and coming to a party with a cd case is more comfortable then a bag full of 12".
3- i have no idea why, and how it happened... both dj`s and listeners dont give a shit about quality in this scene.
so again... as krelm said we r all (artists, labels) rely on the mercy of the buyers.
i have so many other thoughts to share, but we r gettin a bit off topic here...
enjoy while u have it.
boom
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