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Goa-trance, psychedelic Trance or Israels Psychedelic Trance?

Tralala


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Posted : Jan 26, 2005 23:19
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On 2005-01-26 22:53, SPHINX wrote:

u should see Dagan (half misted) on the stage in swiss before a month AWE!!!
the man is a monster on the keyboard!
control the synthesizers like he few other hands in his pocket



shit , I wanna see them LIVE in Greece NOW!!Any promoters hearing????
XrTC


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Posted : Jan 27, 2005 01:29
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On 2005-01-26 22:56, Narcosis wrote:
Many people are confused about this. Maybe im one of them. Many opinions. half-half. I hope that grand-father answer to me. he knows better than us i think.


i don't know what can be confusing about this. goa trance was a specific music style and that's it. an apple is an apple and a strawberry is a strawberry. both of them are red fruits, but i don't think you would ever call "strawberry" an apple. i mean, lot's of things in life have common elements but that's not automatically making them one and the same! in other words, don't put all the fruits in the same basket (ok this fruit thing is not funny anymore, i know ).

also, i don't understand how the "grand-father's" opinion will determine the result of your search. what if he says that he plays goa nowadays? would you have to believe him just because he said so? cmon, you should always take subjective opinions (including mine of course) with a grain of salt. u don't need people telling you what to do. just see the facts, analyse all opinions and make up your own mind!!!

good luck...
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Space Boy
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Posted : Jan 27, 2005 01:40

join this one about goa : http://www.psychedelic.gr/fora/viewtopic.php?t=18           Takse mou !!!!!!!!!!!
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Narcosis
Narcosis

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Posted : Jan 27, 2005 02:11
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On 2005-01-27 01:29, XrTC wrote:

i don't understand how the "grand-father's" opinion will determine the result of your search. what if he says that he plays goa nowadays? would you have to believe him just because he said so? cmon, you should always take subjective opinions (including mine of course) with a grain of salt. u don't need people telling you what to do. just see the facts, analyse all opinions and make up your own mind!!!

good luck...



Grand fathers opinion he never change my mind but i believe that it'll helps me more to analyse the all opinions. one more opinion or maybe two for me. thanks for the good luck!
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HandA
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Posted : Jan 27, 2005 02:24
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On 2005-01-26 22:56, Narcosis wrote:
Many people are confused about this. Maybe im one of them. Many opinions. half-half. I hope that grand-father answer to me. he knows better than us i think.




I doubt he know it better than I and some others do mate. I was a big part of that scene and history. And he wont be objective when it come to his own history in the scene.
HandA
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Posted : Jan 27, 2005 02:35
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On 2005-01-25 16:23, CRX wrote:
In my opinion gil must know something more than us who have never been to india,in goa to b exact.because you know he lives there and you know he is the goa full moon parties in goa and maybe as a dj he is a goa trance pionneer as he is reffered to many trance comps like "eternity" for instance.now as far as parasense(alex and zolod),he's considered as the man who brouth back the party feeling in goa,india and finally if you look all the comps that disco valley recs is throwing is full of this kind of music and also the "deliver us" comp which was compiled by Dj teo who is an established Dj in goa,india is full of KDD,fungus and freaking tracks and ...what else do you need to understand that the term "goa trance"in 2004 stands for this kind of music?
respect




Mate as it has been said before in this thread. There's nothing anymore that can be called Goa trance. Just because some music is played in Goa does not automatically turn it into Goa trance. Goa trance was a genre that does not excist anymore. Period!

You can call it psytrance, Full On or whatever you like to call it but just stop call it Goa Trance. No or very very little music today come close to how Goa Trance sounded.

I am amazed how many experts we have here. Experts that never experienced the Goa scene or even know what real Goa trance is. Experts that for the most's part were kids when the Goa scene was alive and kicking...... And no it's not to offend your ages - It's just the naked truth

And to end this endless debate. Music played in Goa come and came from all over the world. Nothing or very very little music is (was) actually made in Goa!

You don't hear people call music Mexico, Brazil, Greek Trance just because it was played in some Ancient ruins there

well Transwave did a track called Malaka Trance...lol

It's all just names for people to relate to (labels labels labels)... It actually got nothing to do with the places it's played.... It have EVERYTHING to do with the people creating the music !
And last: Goa Gil is not some prophet that know everything and have the key to a Devine higher truth. He's a person that maybe should have thought about stopping all the hallucinogens years back. But that's of course my personal opinion after meeting him
kabamaru
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Posted : Jan 27, 2005 03:42
Yes, Goa Trance as we experienced it is a thing of the past. But even today there are some artists that try to incorporate the defining characteristics of that style in their sound.

Check Filteria (greek guy! go giannis!!!) and his amazing album "Sky Input". Now tell me that this guy does not love Pleiadians!!

There are other examples like that (maybe not THAT well executed) and what they mean is that ideas, directions, musical elements are always recycled. Its just that they are always mixed with all the experience and progress that accumulated since the last time they were used. Maybe its not the main trend, but it IS there.

just my 2 cents           --- open the doors and let the music flood in ---

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Tasos_NOtrea
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Posted : Jan 27, 2005 12:49
Agree with all! Narcosis please stop calling Goa Gil grandfather etc.He is just a man,not a god!Ok maybe he released some compilations in the past like Cosmocrator,Forest of the saints,Cyber Baba 2000,respect! But after that he took some wrong ways .Also all this rituals with sticks,praying to Shiva while he performs in a set etc are karagiozilikia for me.Not drugs but only yoga etc are lies too heh           www.myspace.com/tasos_notrea
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Narcosis
Narcosis

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Posted : Jan 27, 2005 14:10
On 2005-01-27 12:49, Tasos_NOtrea wrote:
Agree with all! Narcosis please stop calling Goa Gil grandfather etc.He is just a man,not a god!

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I dont call him grandfather of some kind of music (goa) i just call him grandfather because he is a old man (grandfather)
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psypunk
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Posted : Jan 27, 2005 19:45
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On 2005-01-25 22:28, psypunk wrote:
In my opinion Psychedelic Trance as we 've kwonw it in '95, has nothing to do with now.

Take for a example, (perhaps the first psychedelic track), Stimuli - The Infinity Project and compare it with Genki - N3XU5. This music has been developed though technology. New sounds have been added but the style changed too.

Psychedelic trance started with feelings, nice feelings, joy, happiness, ecstasy (not the drug)and everyone in a party felt like he was in big company. Nowdays everything goes quicker, harder and so the music. It's become faster, spooky but with new sounds that goes us crazy and dance a lot. The feelings are gone.

But I believe the style should not been called Psychedelic Trance anymore. The Psychedelia has been lost.
Which track make you shiver and scream from happiness and ecstasy? Like tracks as Mahadeva - Astral Projection, Starship 101 - Etnica, Lepton Head - Shakta, Liquid Troll - Chakra & Edi Mis and so many more did.

But this is the evolution. The music should go and been experiment with new technology, because it depands on it.

And where are the party that make this music alive.The Open Party. Psychedelic Trance is not for a club, but near nature. The only party I enjoy anymore are by Natural High. This man definately stands for this scene.

I stand for this scene because I love it. The dance, the music, the energy and I wish for the best. I hope one day all of us get gathered at Syntagma and show what partying is for sure.



Does anyone know what happened to G.Staikos?
DETOX
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Posted : Jan 27, 2005 19:56
He plays seventies and eighties music along with Sagnier in various clubs like Mustang club in Kifisia.

Also he works for Virgin Megastores

He is very very good from what i hear           Toodaloo Motherfuckers!!!!!
Narcosis
Narcosis

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Posted : Jan 31, 2005 14:14
Also check http://www.psynews.org/various/goa.htm           Trance Sound As A Medium Towards Mystical Experience...
KillJoy


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Posted : Feb 2, 2005 00:46
Listen to Filteria or Torakka for some pure Goa Sounds . . . keep looking for good music , Uni and Poly61 are good too . Melodic to the bone ! By the way GoaGil is not just a DJ he is a guru !           NaturalHigh!
Narcosis
Narcosis

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Posted : Feb 10, 2005 03:54
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On 2005-02-02 00:46, KillJoy wrote:
Listen to Filteria or Torakka for some pure Goa Sounds . . . keep looking for good music , Uni and Poly61 are good too . Melodic to the bone ! By the way GoaGil is not just a DJ he is a guru !



Agree! Goa effects to your mind! Mind control music!           Trance Sound As A Medium Towards Mystical Experience...
EgoKilleR


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Posted : Feb 18, 2005 16:55
What about the Uplifting Trance in Greece?I think that it plays also big role in the trance scene there,but I'm surprised that very few peple write about it here.We should also consider that there are goa elements in it.
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