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Ever had a premature experience?

ROTTERDXM


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Posted : Sep 7, 2011 14:30
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On 2011-09-07 01:26, At0m wrote:

Now i'm learning how to beatmix and the next time i'll play, will be much better.

One more thing, your technique as a dj it's not the only thing that matters, the choose of the tracklist and the order the tracks are played are essencial imo.



Agreed on the tracklist/order, it's essential. It's the storytelling aspect of DJing that really attracts me about it. Beatmatching allows you to tell a more complex and congruent story, so by all means continue practicing!

Did you mix during the intros/outros and the breaks? Reminds me of how oldschool acid/goatrance DJs used to mix with DAT tapes...no beatmatching there           My FaceBook psychedelic techno page, with news, videos, DJ sets and free releases:
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psyraal
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Posted : Sep 8, 2011 23:25
Thx for sharing doods.           
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Upavas
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Posted : Sep 9, 2011 00:27
1. It is of vital importance that a dj listen to the crowd and feel what they want, this is the most important art of a dj, feel out the crowd. Don't go with a pre-planned tracklist, it will be somewhat generic, feel out what it is that people want, and give it to them, not with your mind, but with your core, and also only play music that YOU really like, don't play a tune if you don't like it, the vibe will reflect in the crowd... it is a very subtle play that goes on between dj and dancer..... Pair that advice with decent mixing technique and you will be sure to drive them wild...
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kabbalisticvillage
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Posted : Sep 20, 2011 23:30
I played something for like 20-30 ppl with no decks..just a laptop..i mixed tracks live in Fl and turned on FX on the master on and off to create Dj like stuff...nobody was aware but they also were not so musical inclined..it kinda just happened.Im starting to learn how to Dj soon also.Good Luck.           www.soundcloud.com/kabbalisticvillage
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vipal
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Posted : Sep 27, 2011 19:38
record some longer mixes at home, listen them a few times to hear if it has the flow/story you would like to dance on, if you find out you turn of the music because you get annoyed after hearing the mix more than one time you know you have to improve your choice of tracks, focus while listening on the transitions from one track to the other, send the mixes to some friends who are more or less like your audience (dj's or producers normally wont have the patience to listen to one hour mixes from others). ask yourself: if not now, when? when the when has an answer (better mixing skills?) do that. dont make it such a thing. first time will always be something. be your own judge, in everything you do with music. try to play on birthday parties or things like that for small circles to feel more relaxed when they watch you (if thats a thing you are worried with). prepare your set, work out few alternative paths of tracks so you can switch if the dance is not happening enough. know on forehand what the effect of these paths is. later you can improvise all the way. only play tracks you really like yourself. dont give a shit anymore once you started your set.
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ROTTERDXM


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Posted : Sep 28, 2011 21:52
Vipal, GREAT advice. Thanks. Especially the "alternative paths" part - this is a big one.

When you have these 'paths of tracks' in your head, you can try building up a specific groove to see if people on the dancefloor will like it. Introduce a track that has some elements of the groove you want to introduce... industrialized, or electro, or funky, or minimalistic, or very melodic, or full-power darkpsy, etc etc.

If people on the dancefloor get into that groove, you can proceed with tracks that you know have more of the same vibe, that flow from what you are playing right now in a natural way. And if you notice the energy level on the dancefloor is dropping (people don't really like the style of music), you can just try something else.

This might sound very, very abstract, but I hope I am making myself clear. Anyone care to add/comment?           My FaceBook psychedelic techno page, with news, videos, DJ sets and free releases:
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sidra
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Posted : Sep 30, 2011 02:36
I have been spinning for about 6 years. I started out throwing small parties in a small city i was living in at the time. I was using traktor (on my desktop pc lol) at the time, and I didn't really know what I was doing. I was still just getting into the psy scene.
Eventually my roommate bought a pair of pioneer-cdj1000, and we spent a lot of nights getting stoned and drunk, and practicing in the living room. I became a huge music nerd, and was always checking out as much new music as I could, which is really easy to do in the age of the internet...
Now I am very at ease on the decks, and have played to some pretty large crowds over time.
But I still remain in relative obscurity even in my local scene, mostly because of the way the psy scene can be really clique,etc...
These days i spin at a few bigger parties in this part of canada. Mostly my best gigs come from people I have made friends with, and i connected with in a psychedelic way. A lot of the time the most psychedelic people go on to do some really interesting things in the scene...alot of them became really awesome artists or musicians, or really successful promoters.
But usually I don't find the same type of wavelength from the other dj's. The ones who throw everything in being "The DJ" are usually approaching the music and the scene in a different way.

Eventually I turned to focusing my time on producing, which I find much more gratifying. It satisfies my creative urges way more than djing even could.
That being said, I have had many many great and fun experiences over the years, with the patch that djing took me down, so gooooo for it if you are into the idea
Machi


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Posted : Mar 28, 2012 03:51
i say fak it man...go out and play, have some fun...

there are already lots of dj's who don't know what they are doing, one more won't make a difference           DJ Sets: http://metatrance.org/category/mixes/machi/
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willsanquil
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Posted : Mar 28, 2012 07:05
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On 2012-03-28 03:51, Machi wrote:
i say fak it man...go out and play, have some fun...

there are already lots of dj's who don't know what they are doing, one more won't make a difference




Terrible advice. Know what you're doing before you step on stage IMO.

So, by your logic....it would be ok for me to spill toxic waste in the ocean...cuz there's lots of pollution there already? one more won't make a difference right?            If you want to make an apple pie from scratch...you must first invent the universe
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psyraal
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Posted : Sep 24, 2012 19:35
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On 2012-03-28 07:05, willsanquil wrote:
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On 2012-03-28 03:51, Machi wrote:
i say fak it man...go out and play, have some fun...

there are already lots of dj's who don't know what they are doing, one more won't make a difference




Terrible advice. Know what you're doing before you step on stage IMO.

So, by your logic....it would be ok for me to spill toxic waste in the ocean...cuz there's lots of pollution there already? one more won't make a difference right?




valid point, and i never intended on faking it, it should be about the pressure, the adrenaline           
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Sadhaka


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Posted : Nov 19, 2012 15:28
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On 2011-09-09 00:27, Upavas wrote:
1. It is of vital importance that a dj listen to the crowd and feel what they want, this is the most important art of a dj, feel out the crowd. Don't go with a pre-planned tracklist, it will be somewhat generic, feel out what it is that people want, and give it to them, not with your mind, but with your core, and also only play music that YOU really like, don't play a tune if you don't like it, the vibe will reflect in the crowd... it is a very subtle play that goes on between dj and dancer..... Pair that advice with decent mixing technique and you will be sure to drive them wild...


I feel and think just the same. There were nights were I was out off sync with other people and refused to play. When I'm in the mood and I have proper material, I can do wonders. Otherwise I play at the beginning and if I'm not on the track, I just pass it to my friends. If you feel the music you can amaze people even if you are an amateur but you need to be on the tide. Maybe that's why my best sets were played for more then 3 hours. I'm no professional so I need some time before I feel comfortable.

I know that some DJs prepare a full tracklist before they play and maybe it's a good thing for a beginner. But always when I prepared it, I needed to discard right away. What seems good while you're at home may seem not right while performing on a stage.

Beat-matching is a hard work. But there are tons of other things that can make you busy and technically improving. From mastering mixing outros and intros to proper use of loops - know your equipment. Remember that all you have is sound and you can work with it as you please. You can make loops from intros and throw them were they fit.

Generally speaking, it all depends. Good music defends itself so even a bad DJ can make people at least interested and listening to sounds that they have never heard before. Especially in small towns where psytrance was never heard before. There are hours on smaller festivals when there are almost no people and I see no reason why not put someone with small experience.

I don't know how to beatmatch and I've received e-mails and posts on how good our party was. "Thank you for those magical moments". "I've registered just to say thank you and I hope that you will throw more parties in that style". Uplifting, especially for amateurs like ourselves.

I would say that on the scene there are two kinds of people: audio-fascists and anarchists. First want everything to be ideal and professional from the organizational level to the sound. The second just wants to have fun and are very forgiving. Read posts here and you'll see two voices: "never do that" and "go for it". I would say: go for it and do your best. People will appreciate it. The worst thing you will experience is the stage fright. Aside from that, only malfunctioning equipment can be worst.

From the dancers point, good track selection (according to my taste, of course) is way more important then the skills. It's better to be knocked out of the trance by bad mix and wait to the next great track then to sit and sip the beer through all the party just because music sucks.

Feel free and enjoy life!
Nomad Moon
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Posted : Jan 3, 2013 13:47
This New years eve made my 1st Dj attempt, we were about 20 people, all friends, and it was great! Made some serious mistakes, instead of play one track i disconnected the ona that was playing, another time left another on the pre-listening, another time it would be perfect but... the crossfader was on the wrong side :D:D,
at around 11 in the morning i pulled out those Goa tunes and suddenly i was a Guru!
great fun           Tudo que melhor e mais superior em mim sada tudo que melhor e mais alto em si
Trala Lama


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Posted : Feb 11, 2013 19:28
Just go for it, and if you fuck something up, just make sure the next track is a killer and the crowd will probably forgive you
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