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Ever had a premature experience?

psyraal
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Posted : Aug 1, 2011 18:21:44
Hello freakas, let me put it in simple words: When you started Djing, have you started with some experience with knobs and home practicing or did you just launch yourself in front of the crowd?

I've recently been invited to play some tunes at a party but i had to say no because i'm lacking the experience (i hope this summer i can gain enough from one friend of mine who's also a dj), anyway this friend told me that in the night djing business one can't just throw himself into the unknown because it will stain your name, so it's best to learn something "off the record" and just take the time to gain enough confidence to go spinning in front of a crowd.

Have you had a premature experience?           
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D7uan
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Posted : Aug 1, 2011 19:06
Well as they say you are only as good as your last set...It took me like 3 years of mixing to actually have enough confidence to mix and actually charge for it and not to be nervous infront of crowds but most importantly other djs...and it just depends on the person if you feel like you need more experience dont feel bad just work harder till you actually think you have it...and listin to yourself if you think you are not ready to take the leap dont do it...and then again there are always those motherfuckers that sound like if they were deaf and mixing with their feet and they wanna play at every party imo...its better to lay off the crowd till you actually have confidence but then again playing infront of a crowd can actually give you alot of experience and feel and it can be awesome...and its just like one of those things that gets easyer every time you do it
willsanquil
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Posted : Aug 1, 2011 20:36
Don't play out until you know how to mix.

Please.

Do your homework, spend an hour or so every day mixing and learning and progressing. For a long time.

Personally I don't think anyone should get in front of a crowd and play music out until they have the required skill to do so.

It usually takes around a year to get a hold of mixing and all the other technical stuff that goes with your preferred method of DJing....I mean, I'm sure you could do it in less than that if you were super dedicated and spent a lot of time each day doing it, but that's around what it took for me and that's what I hear from most people who I have asked.            If you want to make an apple pie from scratch...you must first invent the universe
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V3NOM
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Posted : Aug 2, 2011 02:58
6 years of DJ'ing at home and just parties for family/friends before I played before a proper (small) crowd of about 200 and even then I was amazed at the stage fright I felt.

There is nothing worse than watching a DJ with no clean either train wreck the mix or just fade intro to outro (could stay at home and do this for free).

Best way to learn to mix IMHO is practice with both the styles you love & ones you don't (pop/jazz/breaks/other EDM).

This is the way I learnt to mix all the styles of music and opened up a gateway of gigs and also ideas of how to mix even psy trance in ways that r more interesting than standard style.

If you do it to early not only will you embarrass those putting on the his, but also you will take a dive so bad you may never touch gigs again. I have seen it many times in many scenes of music.           I hate you, you hate me, we are all so hap hap happy!
psyraal
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Posted : Aug 2, 2011 17:17
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On 2011-08-01 20:36, willsanquil wrote:
Don't play out until you know how to mix.

Please.



Yes, i realise that now, but still, there's no harm in wanting to do it           
https://soundcloud.com/neervos
J
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Posted : Aug 2, 2011 19:58
I say fucking do it.
I've seen many huge names fucking up the decks and still smiling and making people dance.

So do what you gotta do.
daio


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Posted : Aug 2, 2011 21:04
gaining experience whith crowd is something really important...if you can make some descent mixes do it and check!
magner
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Posted : Aug 3, 2011 03:56
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On 2011-08-01 18:21:44, Ethik Mantis wrote:
Hello freakas, let me put it in simple words: When you started Djing, have you started with some experience with knobs and home practicing or did you just launch yourself in front of the crowd?

I've recently been invited to play some tunes at a party but i had to say no because i'm lacking the experience (i hope this summer i can gain enough from one friend of mine who's also a dj), anyway this friend told me that in the night djing business one can't just throw himself into the unknown because it will stain your name, so it's best to learn something "off the record" and just take the time to gain enough confidence to go spinning in front of a crowd.

Have you had a premature experience?




Go for it dude, i started in local clubs 15 years ago and i knew absolutely nothing! just liked it, i made myself look like an ass somtimes i admit, it showed i was green but i didnt care, nowadays i consider myself a pro when it comes to mixing, everything comes so easy, and so it will be for you....

One word of advise, do it the oldschool way if you want to learn quickly, no digital mixing, use cdjs or turntables, you make your bones using them not pressing a couple of buttons and its done           http://soundcloud.com/mejinuf
psyraal
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Posted : Aug 3, 2011 13:08
Quote:

On 2011-08-03 03:56, magner wrote:
Quote:

On 2011-08-01 18:21:44, Ethik Mantis wrote:
Hello freakas, let me put it in simple words: When you started Djing, have you started with some experience with knobs and home practicing or did you just launch yourself in front of the crowd?

I've recently been invited to play some tunes at a party but i had to say no because i'm lacking the experience (i hope this summer i can gain enough from one friend of mine who's also a dj), anyway this friend told me that in the night djing business one can't just throw himself into the unknown because it will stain your name, so it's best to learn something "off the record" and just take the time to gain enough confidence to go spinning in front of a crowd.

Have you had a premature experience?




Go for it dude, i started in local clubs 15 years ago and i knew absolutely nothing! just liked it, i made myself look like an ass somtimes i admit, it showed i was green but i didnt care, nowadays i consider myself a pro when it comes to mixing, everything comes so easy, and so it will be for you....

One word of advise, do it the oldschool way if you want to learn quickly, no digital mixing, use cdjs or turntables, you make your bones using them not pressing a couple of buttons and its done




Yes i am aware that a lot of ppl go for the digital path but where's the fun in not having anything to put your hands on?           
https://soundcloud.com/neervos
Jacob Goadream
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Posted : Aug 3, 2011 22:12
2 things... 1st. If you're going the digital path and can't seem to find anything to put your hands on then you are not using all the tools that come with the digital route...

2nd... Please make sure you know what you are doing before you roll live. Record mixes and post online for feedback. No news is usally bad news online as people seem to just keep there mouth shut if it's no good but if they like it they will tell you. I was in the studio 5+ years before I went live and waiting was the best thing I could have done as now my sets are pretty much flawless everytime. I hear alot from my friends in the EDM scene about how awful alot of the djs are in the psytrance world. People go digital and think "hey Ive got a sync button so Im ready to play live" Pratice, practice, practice... then practice a little more and I can promise you, your odds of blowing people's mind vs blowing their eardrums is alot higher...
psyraal
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Posted : Aug 5, 2011 23:19
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On 2011-08-03 22:12, Jacob Goadream wrote:
2 things... 1st. If you're going the digital path and can't seem to find anything to put your hands on then you are not using all the tools that come with the digital route...



Such as?           
https://soundcloud.com/neervos
Jacob Goadream
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Posted : Aug 5, 2011 23:31
Midi Controller
fx chains
samples/edits for live remixing
3 and 4 deck advanced/layered mixing... that should keep about anyone busy and entertained for a while...
Jacob Goadream
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Posted : Aug 5, 2011 23:45


Jacob Goadream
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Posted : Aug 6, 2011 00:05




mudpeople
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Posted : Aug 6, 2011 12:44
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On 2011-08-02 19:58, John Doe® wrote:
I say fucking do it.
I've seen many huge names fucking up the decks and still smiling and making people dance.

So do what you gotta do.




Ive seen it too, and Ive seen dancefloors having tons of fun while its happening.

I started out messing with Atomix and Virtual DJ, when I got my cdjs I spent a good year at least practicing before I seriously started sending demos, or rather thats how long it took before my demos caught ppls interest, I was posting mixes pretty frequently til then.

Id go with your gut, if you dont feel confident thats fine. Just dont get too shy, cuz the dancefloor just wnats to shake their hips and smile, its a very forgiving beast, and everyone, EVERYONE makes mistakes now and then even after yrs ad yrs.

Just try not to feel like you're auditioning for a lead role in a big movie or someth9ing; if youre asked to play, taht means that the person asking already knows and likes your mixing. When you screw up, smile and laugh, shaek your head like, 'it never ends', and continue on.

Most important thing to do is have fun           .
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