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PoM
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Posted : May 23, 2014 11:53
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something clean with all the classic curves that make the work easier and all the setting needed, from minimum phase to linear ect >dmg equilibrum + highest quality saturators for color ..problem it will wreck your cpu very fast and still not sound as good as some of the nebula eqs but these are even more a pain to use than a chain of plugins to mimic some hardware colorfull eq ..the smothing of transients, the harmonics in the low cause of transformers..opamps ,sometimes tube amp color used for makeup on passive eq..and same very cpu heavy.. but in the end it s possible to get really great result anyway with a clean flexible eq and some saturators for color when needed, it s like comp..think about why hardware sound good..and try to mimic it itb..cause there is way more than just compression, or eq happening in some comp and eq ... there is harmonics added, maybe limiting, transients rounded more musical but still punchy sometimes even more than where these where sharp as hell..ect..all this in a very subblt way to keep the sound detailed ad not change it much , just adding some little coloration that may be welcome depending the source, sound after..but need great cpu |
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PoM
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Posted : May 23, 2014 12:25
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in your head you can see some hardware eq or comp... as 4 or 5 plugins in one..cause there is little extra proccessing.. you can try to mimic transformer low with some rbass maybe just as idea..or something , then something trying to make the transients nicer , then maybe harmonics adding some lowmid warmth or lush in the highs.. then the clean eq ..then result get way closer to how some hardware affect the sound and it can sound way nicer when suited....
though some emulation probably get very close now.. and may do all this for you..but i think with the amount of power needed to mimic this in a great way the plug would be a really cpu heavy making it unsuable for mixing ..so less sell..so here come the compromise to reduce cpu , as wihtout any it would maybe not even run on the fastest one available |
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frisbeehead
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Posted : May 23, 2014 13:54
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^yeah, been using Equillibrium a lot for mastering. now, for mixing there's also Equality - that still ranks way up on my personal chart.
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don't agree on rBass for that. but the rest of it can work, of course. but wouldn't go after it just for "that analogue" sound, it's about chasing the sound you want. some plug-ins, even when not as demanding as Nebula (major cpu hog, it uses some convolution stuff, like some reverbs do) but don't fail to deliver. newest Neve emulation from waves has a pretty decent pre-amp emulation, if you ask me - you just need to feed it with different volumes and see what happens, it's kind of moody, very sensitive to these changes; which made me think it wasn't good at first, but it is. NLS plug-ins are also cool for doing this. and of course you can think of ways to modify your sound with shapers or slight analogue clip distortion or whatever if that's your thing.  |
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Babaluma
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Posted : May 23, 2014 22:05
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PoM
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Posted : May 26, 2014 14:49
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On 2014-05-23 13:54, frisbeehead wrote:
^yeah, been using Equillibrium a lot for mastering. now, for mixing there's also Equality - that still ranks way up on my personal chart.
@PoM
don't agree on rBass for that. but the rest of it can work, of course. but wouldn't go after it just for "that analogue" sound, it's about chasing the sound you want. some plug-ins, even when not as demanding as Nebula (major cpu hog, it uses some convolution stuff, like some reverbs do) but don't fail to deliver. newest Neve emulation from waves has a pretty decent pre-amp emulation, if you ask me - you just need to feed it with different volumes and see what happens, it's kind of moody, very sensitive to these changes; which made me think it wasn't good at first, but it is. NLS plug-ins are also cool for doing this. and of course you can think of ways to modify your sound with shapers or slight analogue clip distortion or whatever if that's your thing.
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iddin t try these plugs but i think a flexible clean eq, and a flexible saturator we wouldnt need any of these emulation ,would be great to have suh a saturator as complex as equilibrum |
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Babaluma
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Posted : May 26, 2014 17:55
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frisbeehead
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Posted : May 26, 2014 23:28
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^will check it out! seems like there's no demo for it, will check the free one
"VGI's base sound is comparable to the DESK mode in the big brother SDRR."
seems like we're in luck, since this is the mode you like best.
like U-he Satin a lot for subtle warmth specially, if you find good settings and take care of the input levels with care it can make even the most sterile digital sounds sort of come alive in a way and add some tasty harmonics to it, not even sounding like blatant tape saturation, more like some cool pre-amp driven a bit hot or something. |
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PoM
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Posted : May 27, 2014 00:55
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desk only mode i found good on sdrr, didnt understand the hype on this plugin, the tube is a joke even the flexiblty dont help to get something decent ,should try it to use it more but was a bit disapointed i was expecting more. my guess it work better used like a summer or a desk.. used on all tracks in a subbtle way , should try it like this insteed.
satin was close to buy but it still sound like a plug to me from judging with nebula tapes.., also reelbus cost nothing and sound good too, different than satin but not worst, maybe better depending taste..
i tried slate, with all the hype ..same always dispaointed when trying but these are decent too..
only good one i have find for my taste is wave arts tube,when not too pushed it sound very close to some real tube sat and soundtoys ones too are decent ,like radiator
to me what is not nailed, it firs the saturation the more it s pushed, it should still be very clean with no shit..inharmonic or dunno what... and the dynamic behavior, ,the transients, the limiting,/cliping compression of something that saturate |
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woodster77
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Posted : May 27, 2014 14:48
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I use satin but for delays, not for the tape sim, not really what it does best, but for diffusiin delays, boom excellent
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