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Posted : Oct 22, 2005 13:28
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Agree. Luckily headyatail2000 already started to connect people and i hope he will give some more infos next days!
How is going headyatail2000 ?
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Posted : Oct 24, 2005 09:11
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I would rather give 15 pounds for a tripple cd where all the money went for a good cause then to give it, and not getting anything back for it. I'm such a ego tripper 
It's just a the better choice of two goods.
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full_lotus
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Posted : Oct 24, 2005 13:31
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OK, well done to Dragongurl for posting this topic. As someone who originates from the Indian side of Kashmir and has alot of family there, it does give me hope that there is still compassion in the human race. There is in London tomorrow night, a benefit for the South Asian earthquake, with world music/chill etc. Nice to see that someone is doing something in the EDM scene, even if it's not psy-trance.
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Oct 25, 2005 01:56
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Bloodclot
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Posted : Oct 25, 2005 10:05
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On 2005-10-24 09:11, Kire-naj wrote:
I would rather give 15 pounds for a tripple cd where all the money went for a good cause then to give it, and not getting anything back for it. I'm such a ego tripper
It's just a the better choice of two goods.
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Hehe yeah.. makes sense.. if ur donating u might as well get something in return!!
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Dragongurl
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Posted : Oct 26, 2005 10:51
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UPDATE!
Charities Report Low Donations for Quake Victims
By Jacqueline L. Salmon
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, October 12, 2005; Page A12
The massive earthquake that killed an estimated 30,000 people in South Asia has kindled an outpouring of cash from Muslim communities here and elsewhere but has elicited a far more feeble response from many other donors, aid groups say.
After donating about $1.3 billion to help the victims of the devastating Southeast Asia tsunami and then contributing $1.7 billion to support relief efforts after Hurricane Katrina, many donors appear to be running out of steam.
"Each time, the response is not as brisk as it was the previous time around," said Akhter Mohammed, chief executive of Interaction, a Washington-based group that represents 165 international relief agencies, many of which are assisting in relief efforts for earthquake victims.
No one knows yet how much has been raised by U.S. charities since the 7.6-magnitude earthquake struck Saturday. But nonprofit relief organizations say donations are coming in much more slowly than after the tsunami or Katrina.
For example, online donations to the international relief group CARE's South Asia earthquake fund are 10 percent of what they were at the same point after the tsunami, a spokesman said.
The American Red Cross also said the pace of giving for earthquake relief is far slower then it was after Katrina or the tsunami. Tens of millions of dollars poured in within a week of the earlier disasters, said spokeswoman Carrie Martin. But so far, the Red Cross has collected only $45,000 for South Asia quake victims.
More on this article here: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/11/AR2005101101884.html
Rich world 'failing' on quake aid
any of the world's richest countries have so far failed to support a UN appeal for victims of the South Asian quake, a top UK-based charity has said.
The charity, Oxfam, said less than 30% of the $312m (£175m) sought by UN aid agencies had even been promised.
It said the US, Japan, Germany and Italy had given less than their "fair share" and others nothing at all.
Meanwhile, Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf has said the financial cost of the quake will be more than $5bn.
In an interview with London's Financial Times, he defended his handling of the country's worst natural disaster, saying the government "had done a good, if not a very good, job".
But he acknowledged that hardline Islamic groups had stepped into an administrative vacuum in the days after the quake, providing relief and humanitarian assistance in Kashmir, a development that analysts say will bolster their legitimacy.
The criticism from Oxfam comes as donor nations meet in Geneva on Wednesday to try to increase funding for the quake appeal.
Pakistan estimates the 8 October earthquake killed more than 53,000 people, most of them in the portion of Kashmir it administers.
Some 1,400 people died in Indian-controlled Kashmir, officials say.
On the ground, aid officials are warning that more people could die of hunger, cold and injuries than were killed by the earthquake itself.
UN chief aid co-ordinator Rashid Khaliko said the coming winter would cut off many remote communities in the region.
He told reporters in the devastated Kashmiri city of Muzzafarabad that relief workers had until the end of November to get hundreds of thousands of people under shelter, treat the injured and provide food stocks to last the harsh winter.
"The disaster is looming large," Mr Khaliko said. "We have thousands and thousands of very vulnerable people.
"What these communities will have by 1 December is what they will have to live with. It's not much time. We basically have four weeks to deliver."
Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/4377220.stm
Katrina Victims vs Pakistan Victims: http://www.aljazeera.com/cgi-bin/review/article_full_story.asp?service_ID=9882
South Asia Quake in Depth: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_depth/south_asia/2005/south_asia_quake/default.stm
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Willy Wonka
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Posted : Oct 26, 2005 15:58
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Quake 4 is out!
Anyhow, let's face it. Your "comparisons" of human life and aid given versus rich and poor are unethical from any point of view, moreover i fail to see point of your posts and reason why it is on psytrance forum which should delt with music.
Ppl over poor countries dead long ago in large numbers thou you was sleeping, what can we do that nature states strongest wins. I would rather go to help those ppl than demonstrating on psytrance forum with anarchy/hippie views which never done and never will do anything to help ,
5 Million Jews were genocided by Europeans not long ago
2 million Armenians were genocided by Turkish not long ago
100 million dead or/and muredered in last world war,
BUT somehow some of us still alive and kicking without any external help.
Being human not starts from donations dear, i know you in kinda humanitarian mood but it isn't right and won't help, as well has nothing to do with psytrance. |
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The Green Channel
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Posted : Oct 26, 2005 16:13
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On 2005-10-26 15:58, Willy Wonka wrote:
what can we do that nature states strongest wins.
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Social Darwinism = Nazism
*(which BTW has nothing to do with Charles Darwin nor his critically acclaimed book: “The Origin of the Species”)
The difference between us and animals (although we are an animal) is that we HAVE a choice. You are NOT a victim, you have a choice. You should read up upon some philosophy I would recommend: Sartre, Nitche and Søren kirkegaard. What you wrote is a disgrace towards my grandfather who was in a concentration - camp.
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On 2005-10-26 15:58, Willy Wonka wrote:
Being human not starts from donations dear, i know you in kinda humanitarian mood but it isn't right and won't help, as well has nothing to do with psytrance.
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She may be in a “humanitarian-mood”, but you have a chronic disorder, constant patronizing.
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On 2005-10-26 15:58, Willy Wonka wrote:
100 million dead or/and muredered in last world war,
BUT somehow some of us still alive and kicking without any external help
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So you feel that we shouldn’t help anyone?
Let them die, and let’s see who survives. "Let’s just start a global-war now and see who survives" = Nazism
Cheers Willy 
You wan't to play again?
"Love is a way of life"
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Krell
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Posted : Oct 26, 2005 19:46
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Quote Willy Wonka
"moreover i fail to see point of your posts and reason why it is on psytrance forum which should delt with music. "
The topic is about creating a psytrance benefit CD, its an inspirational thread. Therefore, it is relevant to this forum. The idea is connected to the VA "Tsunami Benefit CD", also a psytrance release.
Quote Willy Wonka
"Being human not starts from donations dear, i know you in kinda humanitarian mood but it isn't right and won't help, as well has nothing to do with psytrance."
Everything we do is human. War is human, Love is human, Compassion is human... and yes, donations is a human thing, this topic is a human thing & even your constant cynical remarks are human.
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Posted : Oct 26, 2005 20:07
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hahaha at Green's last comment to Wonka  *not apart of your "fight"* *eats popcorn*
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Willy Wonka
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Posted : Oct 26, 2005 20:50
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Sure let's continue.
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i've never said what is right, human or world is fair, the only thing isn't right is to connect psytrance to such global events to release some fluffy CD.
I've never said that war or more damage should come so we can see who is strongest.
Nature rule, strongest survive. It is not Darwin, Nazism or whatsoever. It is reality. You can help as i already said donate money but all fucking argue here is about connection between events in Pakistan and psytrance, when Dragongirl turned it into social conflict while herself living in fucking rich country which not long ago was rapping blacks and stole their national resources. Dunno if it's south africa or uk but both are ugly places with ugly history towards weak or so called "weak"
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Social status which i was reffering to by strongest has nothing to do with you grandfather and concentration camps my family been to as well. If man is poor it doesn't mean i should give him money just because he is poor. From my point of view in some cases it will damage more by giving money to poor than don't.
My point was that after war many European countries became peacefull and social wealthy, why ? Because war caused alot of damage and Europe united and human united. For Pakistanis now it can be a push, it doesn't mean we shouldn't help them at all but they are strong to deal with it alone and noone should show them as victims near US as Dragongirl state.
ps, i'm not offended by you calling me mad, coz i'm what i'm what i'm what i'm.
You just bored, as well Dragongirl is and me too. Go help to Pakistan instead of these useless speeches over here. If you want to relate psytrance and global warming effects, listen to Sandman while fingering Raja Ram toy you got for donating money to Tsunami, Earthquake or whatever soon gonna hit some of us.
Anyway, i like how Uk guys turn rides against "Pakis" after terror attack on London to Earthquake. |
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The Green Channel
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Posted : Oct 26, 2005 21:11
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On 2005-10-26 20:50, Willy Wonka wrote:
Sure let’s continue
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Great reply. (No irony indented )
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On 2005-10-26 20:50, Willy Wonka wrote:
ps, i'm not offended by you calling me mad, coz i'm what i'm what i'm what i'm.
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I didn't say you were mad! , I said that you sounded condescending (Patronizing), following your comment to dragongurl.
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On 2005-10-26 20:50, Willy Wonka wrote:
If you want to relate psytrance and global warming effects, listen to Sandman while fingering Raja Ram toy you got for donating money to Tsunami, Earthquake or whatever soon gonna hit some of us.
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Genuinely funny. !
I don’t agree with most of your post; however you expressed yourself in a respectful manner, so I Respect your opinion .
Love.
"Love is a way of life"
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Posted : Oct 27, 2005 08:45
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This movie had a boring ending.
Where's the "bangs" and "craches"!? ..
Soppy love story 
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Willy Wonka
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Posted : Oct 27, 2005 09:44
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Social Darwinism = Nazism
Do you now imagine these things? Social status and nazism, as far as i remember nazis were the ones who wanted to make all residents of the country equal. National Socialism it called if i'm not sure. Any free society lives by other rules where noone counts who get money and how much. Human death have nothing to do with money ppl in certain country get per month.
Social status will always remain as it been from day money or primitive form of exchange was invented.
There are many things we are different at, social, beauty, shoe size that's why this world interesting. What i see from Dragongirl's posts leads me to communism, anarchy and rest of unwanted or proven to be wrong by history forms of goverment.
The thing is i wasn't pissed off until some of you bored psytrancers wanted to make a CD (the second one) to donate. I just see it unethical, just my point of view.
BUT i became pissed of when some and not only Dragongirl started to blame rich when they themself live on pretty rich countries and probably never help in real life to really needed ppl. Just some wannabe Mother Theresas. Just to mention she was helping first and then speaking.
From my objective, since i'm not any of sides, point of view comparisons of these kind in such manner not far away from "yellow Star of David " on someones clothes. |
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Posted : Oct 27, 2005 10:17
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Well. Let people do what they please I say. If you wanna give aid, do it. If you wanna voulentair (spelling?), do it. If a record label wanna help (and get good promotion), let them. As said earlier, I would deff. buy a 3x psy-album for 15 pounds. I do what I want, not what others tell me to. And commen sense is a good thing.
btw. I heard that Mother Theresas is a fony b#¤% who made alot of money her self. Not the holy person people says she is at all. She's as holy as the pope.
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