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downloading psytrance - a necessary evil?
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Karma Konnect
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Posted : Jan 13, 2008 23:11
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Meta-Morphosis
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Posted : Jan 16, 2008 13:54
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Wow milking cows thats a good way of staying healthy after all the smoke in our lungs 
Now my thoughts ... well i blindely bought CD's from indian labels in the past not anymore even though there are no shipping charges and they are cheaper anywhich but the support of the label and artists involved but sadly the last TTR Va was disappointing i just couldnt have digested the fact that the music on that CD is worthless, its human nature to invest in something you get a good return in but now we have the privilage of listening to music in full length before buying beating saikosounds 4 minutes sample.
But as mk47 said, i totally believe in buying the best outta rest, so i do download and buy music which is totally worth the shipping charge.
and coming to people who download with buying >> when we say "support the scene"...what does that implicate ? "all the best" posts on promotions of a upcoming release only to be downloaded not in mp3 format but wav too, it leads to 1 question before us, are we justifying the hard work put by labels and artists to give pleasure of thoughts to us and for some the "cool quotent"
Meri soch aur prashan 
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Ps! Baba
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Posted : Jan 16, 2008 23:33
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hey man 1 way of sorting out wot u wanna buy wld be myspace music... almost all the artitsts put up new material on thr beatports.. the quality kinda sucks but still + thr are many urls whr u can actually lissen to to tracks live bfr buying them n u get em in .wav formats so tht wld kinda help... besides if u happen 2 bump in2 any artists at a do they usually have cd's of thr latest releases along with em tht they wanna sell n at abt 500 bux a pop pretty decent as comprd 2 800-1k.. buyin cd's frm online stores outside india is a daft idea bcoz the shipping costs almost as much or sumtimes mor thn the cd itself... n hey dloading isnt a bad idea all2gether man cos if u end up liking sum new artists or labels u might actually be motivated to buy thr stuff nxt time aroun..
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Cosmic Oneness
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Posted : Jan 21, 2008 00:21
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The free world is coming sooner or later, I'm guessing 21.12.2012  ! Please buy all that you can if you have the money coz' 5 years hence money shall be obsolete anyway ! If you don't have a paypal account yet and can't afford buying anyhow, please get your music and get the party meter up and thumping ! I see no EVIL in downloading  ! Please support the artists driving you mad  !
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Posted : Jan 21, 2008 09:36
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MP3 is just a Sample copy... if u really like the music...buy the CD and support the artist you like...
that way they can keep bringing them bangers!!!
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Posted : Feb 23, 2008 21:58
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ISPs could face piracy sanctions
Internet service providers must take concrete steps to curb illegal downloads or face legal sanctions, the government has said.
The proposals are part of a strategy on the creative industries.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7258437.stm
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Forza
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Posted : Feb 24, 2008 18:16
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On 2008-01-11 07:54, breatheasy wrote:
I was having an argument yesterday about downloading music.
1) are releases from psytrance artists more important as promotions because they get exposure to orgs everywhere? |
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imho yes, and there should be a balance between promotional and comercial releases
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2) if it comes down to money, do artists get anything at all for their releases? |
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it depends, sometimes you get paid something when you sell a track to a label, sometimes you will supposedly get royalties about a 17% of the sales of the v/a, album but usually this never happens, now with digital releases such as beatport, there is more control though.
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I don't know because I don't live in India, but I guess it must be because there aren't many specialized stores.
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yes, I 100% support this idea, digital stores are the trend of these days, even if it means that your music will be copied and distributed on soulseek and other means, there will be always people who will buy it and support you.
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yes for sure, that's why digital stores are a very good option, they are cheap, music gets to you almost instantly, as an artist you have full control of the sales, and sometimes ordering cd's can be time consuming and risky, but with mp3 you can get everything, everywhere.
Peace bro 
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Lesser Soul
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Posted : Feb 24, 2008 22:22
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On 2008-02-23 21:58, 'N'euroToxic~> wrote:
ISPs could face piracy sanctions
Internet service providers must take concrete steps to curb illegal downloads or face legal sanctions, the government has said.
The proposals are part of a strategy on the creative industries.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7258437.stm
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In most european nations its already illegal to download ...
Being, a bundle of minute, unique particulars in which, by some unspeakable and yet self-evident paradox, was to be seen the divine source of all existence. |
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Posted : Feb 25, 2008 06:56
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organize more gigs!!
life is a trip ..... love is a trip.....a trip isn't a trip anymore.......how trippy.... |
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DjFucK
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Posted : Feb 25, 2008 11:33
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the only original psy cd i got was the 0nE I designed…
Deliver uS frum EviL…
frum spelt from…
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you guys have no idea what evil is…
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God knows...
thank God...
but i know as well !!!
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Posted : Feb 25, 2008 11:47
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The definition of an artist is wide-ranging and covers a broad spectrum of activities to do with creating art, practicing the arts and/or demonstrating an art. The normal meaning in both everyday speech and academic discourse is a practitioner in the visual arts only. The term is often used in the enTertainment business, especially in a buSiness context, for musicians and other performers (less often for actors). "Artiste" (the French for artist) is a variant used in English only in this context. Use of the term to describe writers, for example, is certainly valid, but less common, and mostly restricted to contexts like criticism.
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but i know as well !!!
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Fria Tantrumm
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Posted : Feb 25, 2008 14:57
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I want to say a little something about the concept of legal online digital download.. I have been thinking about putting Tantrumm releases for online downloads for a while now but the thing that keeps me back is the impersonality of a digital download. Usually, when a compilation is made, a story is followed, time is spent on artwork and the end result is a complete physical product, tangible and whole that is a piece of art. And this is what I like and appreciate. offcourse each individual comes with their own set of likes and dislikes and so it is never possible to create a cd that appeals to all. Nor is it possible for anyone to like all tracks on a VA. But digital downloading kills the entire concept and the personal emotion. It highlights instant gratification that we humans have become so used to. I understand that money is spent on a cd and it sux to not like it after it's been purchased, but most shops have have samples of the tracks and one can gauge if the cd is to their liking or not. Downloading is easier, but its selfish and takes away from the whole experience. And its sad that the people involved in this scene are the ones who are contributing most to its degradation. So i battle continuously with the notion of putting our releases online. I know it would help in terms of profit, but I find it so impersonal and contrary to owning the entire cd.
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Mad Purple State
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Posted : Feb 25, 2008 17:32
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Legal Online Digital Downloading will never replace Original CD´s Friaa...
I dont think its a negative step to be honest. Because all the listeners who collect original copies... would never switch to Digital Downloads. If you´re a collector yourself I dont even need to explain the feeling of holding an original copy
and who doesnt find the importance of it... or new comers who are comfortable with downloading are helping the artists with more sales... so all in all its a win win situation dontcha think?
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Fria Tantrumm
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Posted : Feb 26, 2008 16:53
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@ Mad
Maybe you are right. But something keeps holding me back. I guess I feel that by supporting online downloads, eventually the cd will cease to exist. I no its pointless trying to fight the general progression of technology. But i truly want Tantrumm to be a small underground label and I do spend alot of time on a VA...and the artwork is given as much attention as the traxx, I mean the person who does the artwork gets paid the same amount of money as each artist. Soooooo.... I guess eventually we'll do it, but these are just my reasons for not having done it till now.
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Forza
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Posted : Feb 26, 2008 18:28
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I agree with mad, legal digital download gives you more possibilities, for sure it's colder and more inpersonal than owning the cd, appreciating the artwork, the cover, the story, etc, but also sometimes you don't want the whole cd but just a killer track of it or you live in an area where is hard to have access to your cd's so digital download makes life easier for you.
imho the cd won't die, or at least won't die soon because people who likes cd will continue buying them, but having the digital download option will appeal to other kinds of people so it's a good idea to take advantage of that possibility as well
But finally fria, you have to do what your heart tells you (imho) so if you feel that you shouldn't then don't.
I haven't listened your music but I'd love to
Peace
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