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Does darkpsy produces badvibes

Greennun


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Posted : Dec 27, 2005 08:11
I guess it all depends on the listener, a first timer will obiviously find it very disorienting, and in a way it is and experience makes it more friendly to the listener, i guess thats why lots of people prefer to trip in the morning, things are more in control.
The thing with dark psy is that its like an acquired taste not everybody can swallow it.

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Riton
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Posted : Dec 27, 2005 14:26
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On 2005-12-27 07:43, illusions wrote:
for me its not at all the "dark" music that causes any sort of 'bad vibes' - i actually find most dark psy quite a bit more psychedelic than the other sub genre's of psytrance - its the vocal samples that I have a problem with.

Dark scapes, atmospheres, crunchy sounds/fx are are all absolutely fantastic. but when you have suggestive voices constantly repeating themselves - shouting "you will be judged", and "death, blood, etc..". it just takes away from the whole psychedelic experience for me.

i guess thats more for the stimulation junkies. not my cup of tea.



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JNX


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Posted : Dec 27, 2005 20:50
"...a journey to the deepest, darkest regions of the mind and soul, so that you confront and exorcise your demons, thereby unleashing the Triumphant Power of Light & Love !!! "

- Goa Gil

I dont know how well i've interpereted it but I feel there's more to dark than 'music to trip to'.
listen to KodeIV - Possessed
DiMiTry
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Posted : Dec 27, 2005 21:45
I am really surprised the moderators even let this thread go on, seeing how they lock everything that has been said innumerable times before.. or is it because they know it's going to be such an intelligent, mature, non-vitriolic, non-abusive discussion? maybe reopening the 'Devil Worshipping' thread again would be useful..

http://forum.isratrance.com/viewtopic.php/topic/65527/forum/1
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DiMiTry
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Posted : Dec 27, 2005 21:50
and personally, most quality dark psy makes me smile, I don't find it "dark" at all - just trippy. Badly made psytrance does give me a headache, though.
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Posted : Dec 27, 2005 21:55
I totally agree with Mubali here.
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Hellios


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Posted : Dec 27, 2005 23:47
Dark psy gives bad vibes to my ears ,,,,80% of dark psy projects are low production crap and an insult for trance music and its just a sign of decline ,,,,,but hey for sure its not scary music ,,,its just
Aluxe
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Posted : Dec 28, 2005 02:18
I guess its a matter of taste, tolerance, beliefs and mental state ( like drugs, mood, etc). Even though psy trancers are open minded well we still all come from different backgrounds, with different experiences, with different tolerance levels, from different countries and different cultures. Conclusion: to not sound like bigots we sort of have to respect the right that everybody has to see things a bit differently.

Hey in Halloween even 5 year old kids dress up as little devils and spooky monsters, is that not dark?? I guess that is just pretend dark and all for fun. Yeah what I don’t like about dark psy trance is when they sacrifice the groovy trancers to the devil, I agree that brings bad vibes.

No but seriously, in a psy party not everybody is in the same mental state. I mean there are so many people <<experimenting>>, challenging their “reality” with the use of drugs. Ummm, YEAH. I mean there could be this crazy hippy trancer that just ate to many shrooms and is having what he thinks is a magical awakening where he is sure every moment has a cosmic message directed at him, well if the dj suddenly plays a dark negative message it can be taken by the trippedout hippy the wrong way.

Here is my personal advice: if dark psy trance gives you bad vibes then try and go to parties that you know have a line up that you can digest, <<specially if you plan to trip out>>. You can’t stop others from liking certain things but you can choose where you go and what you like. So exercise that right.
Rah
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Posted : Dec 28, 2005 03:08
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On 2005-12-27 23:47, Hellios wrote:
Dark psy gives bad vibes to my ears ,,,,80% of dark psy projects are low production crap and an insult for trance music and its just a sign of decline ,,,,,but hey for sure its not scary music ,,,its just



i could replace the word's "dark psy" in your post with ,with 'full on', 'progressive' or even goa and someone somewhere would agree... but you don't see me doing that...

i guess it's all a matter of perception and realizing some people might have different affinities and taste...

this message is not only intended at you, but in general... It has turned so fashionable to rant about the 'demise' of psy trance and why it's dying and it's only crap... yet when it comes time to actually do something about all the complaining our names are not in blue... i guess we aren't helping the situation much then. If 80% of the music is crap then it should be no big deal getting on the boat and releasing something noticiably better in no time huh?

dark psy personally does not produce "bad vibes' in me, quite contrary, it puts a big old smile on my face and it generally keeps me from falling asleep on the late hours of the night, whereas most music wouln't... taste is taste and i'm not going to argue with someone about it, cause i think you should hear the music you like regardless, and if it makes you half as happy as it makes me then, rock on
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Yellow Warrior
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Posted : Dec 28, 2005 14:28
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On 2005-12-24 16:30, ganjagil wrote:
Some Dark Psy does not at all produce a bad vibe it sometimes completely ruins a dancefloor, i honestly do not know how you can dance to this kind of sound which i cannot even call music. Of course not all of it but i have heard many that musically they do not make any sense at all to me, no melody no good beats no voyage just a load of sequenced samples and bla bla bla a lot of bullshit to sell the sound... I know i will be attacked a lot by my reply but i just say my opinion i do not care to lie!

And really this is not dark at all it really makes me laugh when people call it dark! hehehehehehe

Bom
Ganja




I don't know if someone has attacked you yet but let me do the honours. Sorry Ganja Maan!!
Many people relate to music in different ways Ganja. The lack of good beats, voyage etc you mention is probably your feelings about the music. You cannot relate to the music, that is your problem. Artists should be given the freedom to express themselves in any way they want to. no one knows what the artist was feeling or what emotions he/she had when he/she made the track. Only they know! I think we must respect that!

Not everyone is a happy go lucky guy like you. People have issues which are to them the worst on this planet and music is a way of expressing those emotions. Good or Bad Please let them be!

Oh Also, Hopefully i will meet you one day so i can show you how to dance to this music!

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Yellow Warrior
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Posted : Dec 28, 2005 14:34
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On 2005-12-27 00:25, mubali wrote:
What's the purpose of this thread? Obviously the multitude of opinions that have been voiced or will be voiced are subject to their own interpretation. Yet we continue to rehash a subject that really probably needs to stay buried, and not because I have any attachment to the verdict, but the fact that this music as a whole was meant for people to understand and respect each other's differences. We are all human beings here, and I would like to think that the music we listen to, whatever it may be, might be something we hold very dear to our hearts. There's no need to insult someone's choice in what music they enjoy for any particular reason whatsoever...

Some days, I'll come on here and people are actually talking about something like how this music and the people related to this music has helped them change their lives to what they wanted, but other days... I'll some of the self professed open minds more conservative than 1950's america... Sometimes I really don't understand you people... What happened to live and let live?




nice one Mubali!!
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Rah
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Posted : Dec 28, 2005 15:09
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On 2005-12-28 13:13, nolightatend wrote:
Rah, i could replace your posts with your nickname, your real name or anything i want to.



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Evil Fucker

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Posted : Dec 28, 2005 15:20
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On 2005-12-28 14:28, Bharath wrote:
Quote:

On 2005-12-24 16:30, ganjagil wrote:
Some Dark Psy does not at all produce a bad vibe it sometimes completely ruins a dancefloor, i honestly do not know how you can dance to this kind of sound which i cannot even call music. Of course not all of it but i have heard many that musically they do not make any sense at all to me, no melody no good beats no voyage just a load of sequenced samples and bla bla bla a lot of bullshit to sell the sound... I know i will be attacked a lot by my reply but i just say my opinion i do not care to lie!

And really this is not dark at all it really makes me laugh when people call it dark! hehehehehehe

Bom
Ganja




I don't know if someone has attacked you yet but let me do the honours. Sorry Ganja Maan!!
Many people relate to music in different ways Ganja. The lack of good beats, voyage etc you mention is probably your feelings about the music. You cannot relate to the music, that is your problem. Artists should be given the freedom to express themselves in any way they want to. no one knows what the artist was feeling or what emotions he/she had when he/she made the track. Only they know! I think we must respect that!

Not everyone is a happy go lucky guy like you. People have issues which are to them the worst on this planet and music is a way of expressing those emotions. Good or Bad Please let them be!

Oh Also, Hopefully i will meet you one day so i can show you how to dance to this music!




well said Bharath

and for you nolightatend I have a life more then you spending your life in here writing your gibrish and contradicting yourself .. your are the one who always acting like a taecher in here !
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a3k
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Posted : Dec 28, 2005 16:31
i see many people talkin about bad and good producers of the so called "dark psy music", but i could ask..who do u consider good or bad?and the answers would b based on peoples tastes...can u get my point?
i mean, i can like a certain producer, and 2 me he can be the best, but for another person, he can be bad..and based on that, does that producer create bad vibes?           ...
Evil Fucker

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Posted : Dec 28, 2005 17:11
nolightatend.
First of all I was reading your post while I was having a crap and as from the start this had nothing to do with you !!! or is you also so you could answer yourself on the forum !

'Hellios' expressed himself like he wished and so did I !
He was not careful how he expressed his opinion and I wasn't with mine ! and quoting you... 'and if he/she will then he will use private messaging system to pm me and explain where I'm wrong in gentle way.'

you did not pm me and explain where I'm wrong in gentle way.'

So next time mind your own business attack when you are attacked

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Evil Fucker
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