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Doctor Spook and bad/no payment !?!?
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PsyberTribe Records
PsyberTribe Records
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Posted : Jun 20, 2007 06:26
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I have some people to pay,sure. but there are many artists who have been paid from the compilations that have come out and who are happy to be working with me as well. People can talk,sure. All I can do is stay true to me and my intentions. I intend to pay everything off and i have been bit by bit. I am one person doing most of the work and no investors to support. All from my pocket. I cannot get into again about the whole ZMA deal and being ripped off. It happened. curve balls get thrown. It's all growth.That's really all I have to say. Sorry for the delays artists but I have not been ingorning anyone and all of you are caught up to date with whats going on. The label is not my life, but a true passion, and i intend on giving credit and praise when it is due and I NEVER FORGET THOSE WHO HELP AND SUPPORT ME IN LIFE!!! Things will work themselves out. I know this for myself. Continue to speak your minds, It will help you work through this. I hope if you dont understand all of what I'm saying, I hope you understand some of it. Love to you all and enjoy the sun!!
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Dark-Force
Dark Force
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Posted : Jun 20, 2007 11:37
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On 2007-06-20 06:26, PsyberTribe Records wrote:
I have some people to pay,sure. but there are many artists who have been paid from the compilations that have come out and who are happy to be working with me as well. People can talk,sure. All I can do is stay true to me and my intentions. I intend to pay everything off and i have been bit by bit. I am one person doing most of the work and no investors to support. All from my pocket. I cannot get into again about the whole ZMA deal and being ripped off. It happened. curve balls get thrown. It's all growth.That's really all I have to say. Sorry for the delays artists but I have not been ingorning anyone and all of you are caught up to date with whats going on. The label is not my life, but a true passion, and i intend on giving credit and praise when it is due and I NEVER FORGET THOSE WHO HELP AND SUPPORT ME IN LIFE!!! Things will work themselves out. I know this for myself. Continue to speak your minds, It will help you work through this. I hope if you dont understand all of what I'm saying, I hope you understand some of it. Love to you all and enjoy the sun!!
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dude, i havent seen much sun while working on the 4 tracks i sent you abou a year ago, and still havent been payd for it... |
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Elad
Tsabeat/Sattel Battle
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Posted : Jun 20, 2007 11:38
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for spook i will have what to say alot dont worry its coming i wait for his last promise (300$) and if this not coming by end of the week i will have the biggest post on it.
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nik , this is for you , and all labels please read (better before you turn green on this forum)
i know you dont ow me nothing , but you do for others , and others for me , so this is same sitch..
too bad mate (your reply is hardly enough , sorry)
label is bussines , and includ work of many peaple (artists specialy , since you sell their music , and u fuck them with your amature additue)
if u lack the abitlity to pay in advence (dont cry on zma , we got sick of it , its your busines risk first! if u make milions we know u dont give us more! and u could know this zma is shit if you would ask 3 peaple brfore sign with him , this dude is shit since year 2002 or so your labels mostly came up in 2005 ) , and lack the ability to work 100% on the label (is this your hoby ??? too bad , its my life , bad to know you take it light headed) you should have rather more then 1 person (cmon , how much 1 person can do with no help?) , and lack the ability to sell (yes , this is your only job as label , to sell as much possible , saikosound will not go door to door for you , eithere not to festivals and such) , you are going down for all that , and take alot of peaple with you (should have think of it earlier)
how would you feel if you getting kicked out of your house since you cant pay since you wait for money ????? from you ??? it is your responsiblity !
you say within 3 month then someone makes plans on this money!!! not to mention there are contracts involve!!
this was general for all labels and if u plan one be able to answer my Q ciriously or u fuck peaple over.
i know many are trying to escape the reality with fake "good vibe" , if u hear this run away , someone dont have money.
from good vibe here is what u get , you have to go work and focus on music tops 5-10 hours a week (instead 80 hours)
so all in all , you shity labels make us to work less on music , that u supose to love ? how is that help the scene ?
sorry to be aggressive , i was happy flowers and butterflies person till u all fuck me over and make me poor .
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A-Holes
IsraTrance Junior Member
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Posted : Jun 20, 2007 12:00
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ohhhh mannnn same lady in other outfit..... come on
ok .... so it goes like this :..... for alllllllllllllllllllllll those ppl who not paying or didnt payed and keep going with this old lame excuse " im working by myself i pay all from my pocket " .... its non of the artist business to care about it....... this is why we named artists and not " Doctor Phill " .... when ive been asked to sell a track for civilized chaos.... and the compiler ( Spazz) told me the payment is getting 3 months after it gettin released i said righ ahead NO...... come on what kind of lame deal is that..... you could just say please donate a track if you can..... ( maybe even then i could tihnk about it )... as long as youre real then shouldnt be any problem ....
About ZMA ..... well... the tsabeat have been spoken for that i belive....anyway... again and again and again..... stop open labels if you cant pay to ppl......
for example ..... ME : i dont have the money to start releasing albums or compilations or anything like this.... so i just aint put my leges inside a big pile of broken glass.
so i just opened my own Booking Agency ...
please for all those 1 hit no pay to artists labels.....
Shut your labels down!!!!
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d1m1tr1
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Posted : Jun 20, 2007 12:41
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On 2007-06-20 03:12, palex wrote:
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On 2007-06-19 09:43, Crying Orc Project wrote:
for exasmple: Psyber tribes records
nik the owner didnt payed me for like a year now, maybee more.
and i didnt heven got the compilation copy!
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btw...nice tip 
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and Tsabeat + Moran said some wise words
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Moonsun
IsraTrance Full Member
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Posted : Jun 20, 2007 13:06
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i dont understand why label keep doing this stuff to artists ,ok i know sales are bad ,so buy the tracks cheaper ,but since u make a deal u have to keep it
its simple logic. in 1 year i see so many labels in our sceene not paying and becoming shamed all over the net in forums. its a shame to see we has so much good music in trance and we have to fuck it along with our names.if dont have to make a cd or a label dont make 1 ,its easy to geuss that u need money to support it,not that easy job ,but when u do it u know u cant make millions but stealing even 100 artists , u wont live more than 1-2 years on that money ,so why be so shamed all around the world for that ...its sad cose i seen people give big effort to make something in music
and for that thay get stress and shit...nice way of hinking and life...pffff |
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montezuma
Blisargon Demogorgon
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Posted : Jun 20, 2007 14:01
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spazZz
Spazzz
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Posted : Jun 20, 2007 14:12
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Well - i hv been asked by spook to compile va for geomagnetic over year ago which contaned tracks by personal friends who hvnt got payed for those tracks , also vs track of tsabeat and me which i dont expect to be payed for .
quote : moran crazy ducks : when ive been asked to sell a track for civilized chaos.... and the compiler ( Spazz) told me the payment is getting 3 months after it gettin released i said righ ahead NO...... come on what kind of lame deal is (quote) to u moran - i didnt even KNEW U by this time ....
Any way this is the reason i quit work with spook and geomagnetic .
take care and best vibe 
SpazZz - GBM Records
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Khopat
Khopat
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Posted : Jun 20, 2007 16:07
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Fragletrollet
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Posted : Jun 20, 2007 16:24
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A-Holes
IsraTrance Junior Member
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Posted : Jun 20, 2007 19:46
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On 2007-06-20 14:12, spazZz wrote:
Well - i hv been asked by spook to compile va for geomagnetic over year ago which contaned tracks by personal friends who hvnt got payed for those tracks , also vs track of tsabeat and me which i dont expect to be payed for .
quote : moran crazy ducks : when ive been asked to sell a track for civilized chaos.... and the compiler ( Spazz) told me the payment is getting 3 months after it gettin released i said righ ahead NO...... come on what kind of lame deal is (quote) to u moran - i didnt even KNEW U by this time ....
Any way this is the reason i quit work with spook and geomagnetic .
take care and best vibe
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Relax Aviv i didnt attacked you or something my friend... i just said its spook ways of business..... please dont get me wrong... and please dont deny things because ive got this history of msn....
again dont get it wrong.... nothing bad about you. |
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splinter
Splinter / Kode Six
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Posted : Jun 20, 2007 20:17
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wow how many people has he fucked...
basicly what i dont understand is ..if spook doesn't have any cash and doesn't know how to make it...why is he promising people he will paye them....bad fo business
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Guinea Pigs
Guinea Pigs
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Posted : Jun 20, 2007 21:26
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Khopat
Khopat
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Posted : Jun 20, 2007 21:56
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Well now that i almost lost my hope to get my money , i just feel like laughing cause this is ridiculous , how can some one that has high reputation, can give such a rip off like this , and still releases and releases and creates sublabels and shit , well glad that goose posted this , everyone needs to know about this totally amateur guy or maybe lets call it professional ripper!
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Shawnodese
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Posted : Jun 20, 2007 22:07
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I can add to that....that I've been staying with Spook, Random and Chromatone for almost a month in San Francisco when I played with 'm there. That basement is NOT the kinda basement for poor people and their studio in there had more equipment then any studio I've ever seen...and guess who owned the most of it all  Right...our favourite character of this discussion. A complete Dj-boot with the newest Pioneer mixer/cd-rack, 5 computers that are running day & night, the newest laptop, all the gear for video mixing,rending and whatever else...........this guy is surely not poor, although he's always without money, so that part is true, because he always buys the newest, freshest and hippest tech-toys to be able to keep doing what he loves doing, making videos and dj-ing/producing music.....and all of us are actually paying for that....now....how fair's that And I guess it's no surprise that Random and Chromatone moved elsewhere
Mind Funk Records
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