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Do you listen to Classical Music?
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Brainpulse
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Posted : Apr 26, 2006 19:40
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On 2006-04-26 09:52, *Karma Cola* wrote:
classical music like Mozart, Vivaldi, Chopin, Ravi Shankar, Yaani or any of the great composers?
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Sorry to disappoint you, but Ravi Shankar & Yanni are modern composers, definetly not classical.
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Posted : Apr 26, 2006 20:22
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*Karma Cola*
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Posted : Apr 26, 2006 21:40
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On 2006-04-26 19:40, Brainpulse wrote:
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On 2006-04-26 09:52, *Karma Cola* wrote:
classical music like Mozart, Vivaldi, Chopin, Ravi Shankar, Yaani or any of the great composers?
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Sorry to disappoint you, but Ravi Shankar & Yanni are modern composers, definetly not classical.
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Thats probably true, but i just lumped them together anways.
But for those that do listen, do u actually listen for an extended period of time or justa track or two. Sometimes i feel that classical music is itself the first 'journey' in instrumentals.
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Posted : Apr 27, 2006 00:05
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Actually, Ravi Shankar is a classical musician, [north] Indian classical, who has also done more contemporary types of work.
For western music, I like to reserve the term "classical" for that period of time after Mozart but before Johann Strauss, for which Beethoven is the prime example. This is a more academic definition and this would all be understood if you talked to a music historian. Otherwise I tend to use the term "orchestral music" when it involves a group of musicians playing, for the most part, traditional accoustic instruments.
Now, for the orchestra there's some seriously wacked out and trippy works for the orchestra. Check out Ligeti's Atmospheres, or Edgar Varese, Oliver Messien, Xenakis (still living). These composers use orchestras like huge synthesizers building timbres and tone combinations beyond the typical melody and harmony arrangements. It's a bit of challanging listening but it's damn cool sounding. You can throw in John Cage (especially the prepared piano pieces), or Karlheinz Stockhausen, for those wierd shortwave radio type works.
For a more ambient approach, check out Eric Satie, Claude Debussy, or something more modern like Alan Hovaness [sic], Steve Reich, or Arvo Part. Just to name a few.
The interesting thing is that these formal compositional circles (mostly academics) have explored many of the techniques that dance music uses today. For example, "music concrete" is term used for using bits of found sound in music. Back in the 1950's this involved splicing bits of audio tape together. These days we use samplers. The same could be said for granular and additive synthesis. Interestingly, you should check out Frank Zappa's earlier work from the 60's (the "Uncle Meat" album). There he was still experimenting with those formal techniques, along with The Mothers rock band, and was influenced heavily by Edgar Varese's work- then he went commercial...
I would say Vangelis also was a strong influence for myself. His early 70's albums were much better IMHO, such as "Albedo 0.39" and "Heaven and Hell". Then, he turned to absolutely overly sentimental and romanticised music which gave him his real fame. Not unlike some current "trance" artists.
As musical explorers hopefully you will eventually give these, and others, a listen. I takes a relatively open mind at times. I also feel that it influences my music, that and jazz (oh no, the dreaded "J" word).
happy listening,
dean
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DarkHorse
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Posted : Apr 27, 2006 00:51
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Yes I listen to a lot of classical music I am particyularly fond of chamber, choral I also like listening to male voice choir (well I lived in Cardiff/Newport for a while:-) )and chazzanot.
The University music school run free recitals at lunchtime but I'm working full time now and can't get to them. |
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DarkHorse
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Posted : Apr 27, 2006 00:56
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On 2006-04-27 00:05, mono mono wrote:
Actually, Ravi Shankar is a classical musician, [north] Indian classical, who has also done more contemporary types of work.
For western music, I like to reserve the term "classical" for that period of time after Mozart but before Johann Strauss, for which Beethoven is the prime example. This is a more academic definition and this would all be understood if you talked to a music historian. Otherwise I tend to use the term "orchestral music" when it involves a group of musicians playing, for the most part, traditional accoustic instruments.
Now, for the orchestra there's some seriously wacked out and trippy works for the orchestra. Check out Ligeti's Atmospheres, or Edgar Varese, Oliver Messien, Xenakis (still living). These composers use orchestras like huge synthesizers building timbres and tone combinations beyond the typical melody and harmony arrangements. It's a bit of challanging listening but it's damn cool sounding. You can throw in John Cage (especially the prepared piano pieces), or Karlheinz Stockhausen, for those wierd shortwave radio type works.
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Helikopter-Streichquartett, now that's a concept performance. |
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DropOut
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Posted : Apr 27, 2006 01:18
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Ravi Shankar..Yanni...Anoushka Shankar.. 
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Posted : Apr 27, 2006 14:52
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im listening to classical music everyday at work since its more variation in it than the ordinary shit they play on the radio here 
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Dennis the menace
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Posted : Apr 27, 2006 14:53
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daark
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Posted : Apr 27, 2006 15:04
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yeah
sometimes its great to go back to the roots:) |
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Goddess of Chaos
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Posted : Apr 27, 2006 15:50
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There have been some great Indian classical composers, personally my favorite is a genre of classical music known as a "Ghazal" which involves music set to Urdu poetry-- performed in a light classical style..
The most famous ghazal singer of this century is probably Jagjit Singh an Indian, who sang the verses of Mirza Ghalib-- It's a road down to depression, but even that trip sometimes with a glass of wine is a good way to spend the evening!
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*Karma Cola*
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Posted : Apr 27, 2006 20:35
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@Onnomon
That was massive. Good insights into the world of orchestral music.
@Goddess of Chaos
Yea.. Jagjit Singh played near my plae a lil while ago. Was never really fond of his stuff, but most of my friends (who actually understand what he's saying) swear by him.
.. also, what about Sufi music. I am a huuuge fan of Nusrat and qawaali music. Incredibly emotional and psychedelic.
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Fingax
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Posted : Apr 27, 2006 20:45
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its not classical but if you call classical to Ravi Shankar, here some good stuff you might like: Phillip Glass (Minimalism) &
Michel Nyman (contemporary)
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Goddess of Chaos
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Posted : Apr 27, 2006 22:18
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@Goddess of Chaos
Yea.. Jagjit Singh played near my plae a lil while ago. Was never really fond of his stuff, but most of my friends (who actually understand what he's saying) swear by him.
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Yeh thats true to some extent because it's pure Urdu, taken it's roots from Persian literature-- Sometimes some of the words go right off my head as well but from what i do understand.. it's nice n very soothing music
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