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Do Devil Worshipping belong in this scene?

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Posted : Jul 30, 2009 21:32
this is really funny
Bandanaman


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Posted : Jul 31, 2009 12:49
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On 2009-07-27 12:18, kriz wrote:
"I don't get the point. If you believe there's a message in every song, as one should, there is nothing good about dark psy with screaming and the sounds of people dying in the background.

It's just a waste."

It is ? When i go to a dark festival, I listens and dance to the hardest darkpsy music for days-- No negativity , just pure power.. You know when you really push your body to it limits you can get some really crazy experiences ? I think its all about this---- power, spirituality and really far out experiences...

If you read the whole discussion you will see what i mean with this.




I completely agree with you on the reasons for ppl liking this sort of trance (well me anyway). It's the energy and the power of it that I love, I'm not going to dark places, just getting high and energized on the power of the music! And it definitely has a strong "trance" element to it. Really takes your mind places.

I think coming from a background of liking harder music like techno, gabber etc. means that I really like this sort of vibe. But, I love most types of music and love the feelings they all give me. From chilled out prog to speedcore I think it all has something to offer.

And no, I'm not a horrible or negative person, I just love music with energy that makes me bounce around!
djanahata
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Posted : Jul 31, 2009 13:12
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On 2009-07-28 14:12, Manu@cosmictrance wrote:
the devil, God, heaven and hell does not exist is an invention of religion ....



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Posted by : mk47 Posted on : 2009-07-28 14:15
its just as retarded as including shiva , kali etc





I get your point here, but think in this:

We live in a multi-universe (thousand of millions of them).
In our universe (is really big like you know), we find
our galaxy, just one of thousand of millions galaxy.
In our galaxy we find thousand of millions stars and system solar.
In our world we have 11 dimensions (we perceive only 3 or 4).
In the others dimension we find again new wolrds.

Veda Wisdom teach that KALI, SHIVA, LUCIFER, etc, are not really Gods,
they Are peoples living in others planet.

Surely we have much peoples, "gods", devil creatures, freaks, outside... and surely many places like hell or like heaven.

If we stop to think in these "beings" like Bible view, or religions view, the storie start to make sens, no?

Today Iam sure of one thing, is that Veda wisdom always is the truth.


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bbgun

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Posted : Jul 31, 2009 13:45
^DUDE. Which Veda told you kali, shiva and lucifer are people living on other planets? Sure I think extraterrestrial life exists but these three characters are completely fabricated by man. The Vedas themselves were written by man. Another misinformed foreigner.
djanahata
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Posted : Jul 31, 2009 15:12
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On 2009-07-31 13:45, bbgun wrote:
^DUDE. Which Veda told you kali, shiva and lucifer are people living on other planets? Sure I think extraterrestrial life exists but these three characters are completely fabricated by man. The Vedas themselves were written by man. Another misinformed foreigner.



Why you dont investigate yourself before call me misinformed foreigner?

Iam working now I cannot writte a lot but I will back today to show you some parts of Srimad-Bhagavatam for example talking about ok?

Also you said <<The Vedas themselves were written by man>>
for your information most of the Veda knowledge is so older that nobody know where is came from. Is more older than writing in our modern world...

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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Jul 31, 2009 15:20
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On 2009-07-31 13:12, djanahata wrote:
Quote:

On 2009-07-28 14:12, Manu@cosmictrance wrote:
the devil, God, heaven and hell does not exist is an invention of religion ....



Quote:

Posted by : mk47 Posted on : 2009-07-28 14:15
its just as retarded as including shiva , kali etc





I get your point here, but think in this:

We live in a multi-universe (thousand of millions of them).
In our universe (is really big like you know), we find
our galaxy, just one of thousand of millions galaxy.
In our galaxy we find thousand of millions stars and system solar.
In our world we have 11 dimensions (we perceive only 3 or 4).
In the others dimension we find again new wolrds.

Veda Wisdom teach that KALI, SHIVA, LUCIFER, etc, are not really Gods,
they Are peoples living in others planet.

Surely we have much peoples, "gods", devil creatures, freaks, outside... and surely many places like hell or like heaven.

If we stop to think in these "beings" like Bible view, or religions view, the storie start to make sens, no?

Today Iam sure of one thing, is that Veda wisdom always is the truth.






I found it very intersting and convincing what you have written
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bbgun

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Posted : Jul 31, 2009 15:59
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On 2009-07-31 15:12, djanahata wrote:
Quote:

On 2009-07-31 13:45, bbgun wrote:
^DUDE. Which Veda told you kali, shiva and lucifer are people living on other planets? Sure I think extraterrestrial life exists but these three characters are completely fabricated by man. The Vedas themselves were written by man. Another misinformed foreigner.



Why you dont investigate yourself before call me misinformed foreigner?

Iam working now I cannot writte a lot but I will back today to show you some parts of Srimad-Bhagavatam for example talking about ok?

Also you said <<The Vedas themselves were written by man>>
for your information most of the Veda knowledge is so older that nobody know where is came from. Is more older than writing in our modern world...





Yes its obvious the Vedas are older than writing in our "modern world" as you said. Regardless of how old the Vedas are nonetheless, you should keep in mind that dialects are anthropological elements of human culture in specific regions. They came about as a necessity for survival. Thus, irrespective of how old and who wrote them, the Vedas still remain a human fabrication. In addition, while the exact authors of the Vedas maybe blurry, it is an accepted fact that they were written by the ancient Rishis of India. As with every other religion, claims are made that they are "god's" direct revelation to the people of the land. The Earth is estimated to be 8-10 billion years old; by that measure, we humans as a species are rather young. That says enough mate, you are welcome to believe anything you choose to.
djanahata
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Posted : Aug 1, 2009 01:24
I send to you a PM
With pleasure we continue this discussion in private
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djanahata
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Posted : Aug 1, 2009 02:02
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On 2009-07-31 15:59, bbgun wrote:
Quote:

On 2009-07-31 15:12, djanahata wrote:
Quote:

On 2009-07-31 13:45, bbgun wrote:
^DUDE. Which Veda told you kali, shiva and lucifer are people living on other planets? Sure I think extraterrestrial life exists but these three characters are completely fabricated by man. The Vedas themselves were written by man. Another misinformed foreigner.



Why you dont investigate yourself before call me misinformed foreigner?

Iam working now I cannot writte a lot but I will back today to show you some parts of Srimad-Bhagavatam for example talking about ok?

Also you said <<The Vedas themselves were written by man>>
for your information most of the Veda knowledge is so older that nobody know where is came from. Is more older than writing in our modern world...





Yes its obvious the Vedas are older than writing in our "modern world" as you said. Regardless of how old the Vedas are nonetheless, you should keep in mind that dialects are anthropological elements of human culture in specific regions. They came about as a necessity for survival. Thus, irrespective of how old and who wrote them, the Vedas still remain a human fabrication. In addition, while the exact authors of the Vedas maybe blurry, it is an accepted fact that they were written by the ancient Rishis of India. As with every other religion, claims are made that they are "god's" direct revelation to the people of the land. The Earth is estimated to be 8-10 billion years old; by that measure, we humans as a species are rather young. That says enough mate, you are welcome to believe anything you choose to.




Just one more word here:
If you think that all the deep veda knowledge is from human mind,

CHECK IN GOOGLE the word "VIMANA"
and you will understand the implications of others civilizations behind Veda knowledge

next answer in private my friend.

Best regards
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bbgun

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Posted : Aug 1, 2009 06:50
Sent you a PM mate For anyone else interested:

http://cgpl.iisc.ernet.in/site/Portals/0/Publications/ReferedJournal/ACriticalStudyOfTheWorkVaimanikaShastra.pdf

A scientific analysis by the Indian Institute of Science which details why the Vimanas are unfeasible, and a modern day fabrication with a complete lack of understanding of the laws of physics.
mk47
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Posted : Aug 1, 2009 08:44
as someone said , here reigns an " obscure brand of ‘spirituality,’ which is not quite religion but cherry picks a variety of almost exclusively Eastern religions under the mistaken impression that the orient is necessarily more enlightened than the west." ... can we please just leave out the vedas , various mutant animal gods the buddha etc, and just stick to the music ?
bbgun

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Posted : Aug 1, 2009 16:49
Devil worship has nothing to do with psytrance. Maybe some people who are part of the scene indulge in such borderline lunatic activities. This place isn't scarce of nutters you know.

There are tracks with screams, there are tracks without; what matters is the outcome and there are some good tracks with screams, samples, shrieks, deep atmospheres etc. That however doesn't mean this music has anything to do with this idiocy.
moki
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Posted : Aug 2, 2009 03:35
while you discussed 40 pages if the devils belong to the scene - during this time they came to the scene, settled down, stayed for a while , got bored from this scene and left it forever as well as their ancestors - the big spirits of tolerance and love.

they are all gone. do we expect anyone else in the future please? it is getting more boring every day:). the devils come with the second ride.


oh and bbgun, this was meant to be a joke right?:)
i mean, i understand how misinformed we foreigners are ( ) but sometimes it starts to sound almost ridiculous. it means funny. so what are the vimanas again my dear? can you please build one for us, the uninformed? but according to the ancient plans please? can you bring the gods on the earth again ? bring only the gods of the light - even ONLY with them we will be completely satisfied.
boomthirdeye


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Posted : Aug 2, 2009 20:09
wny do i have to name my track as- beautiful (cause i think of beautiful) so as why do you have to name your track as some thing evil/dark/___ cause do you think of it??

like somebody said its what you think comes out...

kameleonpangea36
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Posted : Aug 5, 2009 08:40
I think whenever the devil and archons see something pure with a positive intention they'll try as hard as they can to get involved and manipulate minds. but luckily the power of the Father will always prevail, he will enlighten many other artist who will eventually overcome this fad of darkness.

that being said, I love dark music but the evilness has to go.. everyone talks about being balanced?? the balance of hearing a someone being killed or chainsaws is like the fucking tellatubbies or something.

Theres a nice middle ground that I like to stay balanced with.

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