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Do Devil Worshipping belong in this scene?
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psycho-italiano
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Posted : Feb 17, 2009 01:48
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well , that's true too
those 2 categories are our mind creation.
But what I meant to say is that by default we have 2 choices That were actually and still 1 default choice that we didn’t choose coz its actually not a choice !
it’s the whole thing around us and within us before we started thinking or using our minds , it’s the hidden and silent energy that we are made from including our minds and thoughts before they got any changes or vibrations! Its our first entity/existence that had no any layers on it!
we may call it cosmos energy or God or Love… and we try to learn our self and realize that…some can do it and some cant but they will someday…
So if we make the opposite of that choice or better to say existence then we get the second choice that didn’t exist before and that’s the opposite of it , if we define the first one as good , then the second one is bad. we have 1 flow and if we stop it then we get another flow. Like a coin.
No matter who you are , where you are , when you are , you , me us, will always have those 2 catagories coz as I said , its actually us, if we don’t accept our self as we should be as entity then we get another side , the side that doesn’t accept it self…….its the evil side.
So if you accept your self and flow with your self without any thoughts! I mean don’t try to imaging anything….
don’t create anything in your mind , then you stay with the 1 and only default your clean self.
We call the first 1 good coz its how we define that feeling by the language that our old generations created….
the way we communicate and put tags to feelings is only a way to understand better and clarify our awareness to others…
As I said those are not built in choices ! Its only one choice that exist , that actually is not a choice coz you always have it ! And if you try to stop it or reverse it , then you get it non-functional and get what I called , the second category that didn’t exist before , and is created now: bad-evil…. we are good in our nature -> our opposite nature = bad. very simple to understand.
(sounds like a paradox?!huh?...think deep about it then you will see how true it is).
Its exactly like a program/software when the data flow is moving fine then its working as it should work.
But if you make any wrong changes in it and try to run it again then you get many errors……that’s the universe….that’s how I experienced it many times in very high awareness levels.
So you accept it as it , 1 choice! Yourself as you are! The good choice as we call it by language and you know that feeling for sure! or you will get the opposite side even if you don’t try to imagine bad things , it works like a coin , no matter what we do….
If you don’t accept your entity , then you will have opposite of it that will fight it to win too.
Again ,this is how I see things…
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Dr. Boombastic
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Posted : Feb 17, 2009 05:32
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i think about these things a lot, and spirituality/higher powers confuse me thoroughly.
becos there are things and times that i see an objective and scientific reality and there are times i see the higher machinery spinning the wheels within wheels in the universe.
the one thing that i can say is that as humans the definition of good versus bad is extremely subjective and lies in a grey area, that is often full of contradictions.
wht we can do is justify each of our actions to our own true self. the thoughts that come into our consciousness are there for a reason, be it something external or internal [created by you].
in any case. the thought itself, IMHO is never evil, becos it takes superhuman powers to not think about something at all and have control over ure sub conscious. it is what you do with the thought tht is important.
sorry to digress.
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NTD
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Posted : Feb 18, 2009 14:28
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the trolls/demons/ghosts ate the aliens
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Ellon
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Posted : Feb 18, 2009 14:52
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maxtrix
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Posted : Feb 18, 2009 20:44
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hallo again! thanks for the input amigos.
@ ellon: your right, you never know what reaction your actions are causing and its often hard what is the right decission. what is this moment right is proberbly the next moment wrong because situations are changing. sometimes is right to take action and sometimes is better let things happen. somtimes even helping ppl can be the wrong decission because maybe they have to learn to help themselves or to experience the cause of their actions. but i think there is also conscience and ethnical behaviour, to protect live and our planet. when i can protect my daughters, a friends or whoevers life(shure also here exceptions like george w bush...) by taking action , then for me its the right (good,positive) decission to take action, as just let it happen because thats their karma. maybe its my karma to be there at this moment to take action, maybe live after death is better, but for me its worth to protect live on earth. and you got your brain and your experiences that you have an idea what can causing your actions, juge by your own experiences how often, when you had the feeling help is needed, it was right or wrong to help. and like you say even devil worshipping can be ok, when you do it for certain reasons and not harming others or doinig it for power on the cost of others. if you do it for spiritual growth, because the church dont help you verry much in this case, then it should be ok. to be the opposite pole (to the church, believestructur, political regime,..) to pushing ppl to use their brains and expanding their mindframes and dont swallow everything their leaders tell them. its sometimes fun and i think not wrong to be a little nasty devil to provocate things and you have the feeling when its the right time for it. i am not afraid of halloween, but horrormovies are not my favorite ones. some ppl i think do it for the kick of the forbidden,, mystical, unknown. again, got no problem with that as long as they harm any others. when i see a backdrop with a flouro devil on a party somewhere on the side i take it at what it is, or should be, funny provocation. i think i never been on a party with serious devilworshipping.
@ dr. boombastic: i didnt mean all thoughts bad or evil, but there are some what stuck in our heads, what suck, what can take your good feelings and block the connection to the moment where you are living - NOW. and these ones you can check out by watching yourself (meditation) what you think, why you think this, what it want tell you and how you can solve this problem, maybe by taking action (looking for a solution by disputs or even finishing unfinished projects). and i think also you can empty your brain by meditation or spiritual exercises to be free for the pure intiution but it shure will take time and much exercising. indian saddhus and buddhist monks do it but they (shure not all of them) gave up material cravings what i think makes it easier. i dont live a spiritual life, i am husband and father, call it family life if you like, but also here enough things to learn and grow. hope no bad feelings, we just exchanging experience and knowledge.
all the best, boombole, max |
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headyatail2000
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Posted : Feb 18, 2009 21:10
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let's close it after 29 long pages: does it belong or not?
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Freeflow
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Posted : Feb 18, 2009 21:14
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it all boils down to fear!
we fear alot of things and we make scenarios for different things that could happen!
all and all we choose alot how certain situations should go if we listen to our signals! oh and sometimes other peoples signals
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BrainLizzard
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Posted : Feb 18, 2009 22:53
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I'll say it again:
Please list a few Devil Worshiping artist/dj/crews that are in this scene. If not any then please change the topic so it goes somewhere....The politics and debate on Satanic Worshipers being just extreme Christians, God and Satan are Kin, just having a family feud can go and go and not go anywhere. Talking more about medieval folklore and theology surrounding demons and witches or even Ancient Egyptian mythology which conflates Satan with the Egyptian god Seteh is definitely a better direction. God and the Devil are at War and we're in the middle, period.
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Psycho-italiano is on point....
So, "Do Devil Worshiping belong in this scene?". Show us where to look by giving names so we have reference points to your question. Track titles don't cut it. "South of Hell" was a track title given. Whats south of hell, besides a house I'm renting out? Look at Slayer, "South of Heaven", "Show No Mercy", "Seasons In The Abyss", "Reign In Blood", "Hell Awaits","Undisputed Attitude","Divine Intervention","God Hates Us All","Christ Illusion", "Haunting The Chapel", now were talking the Bible and Military War history from a butch of Catholics. King is surly pissed and i wished he would write some psyleads at the electronic level. What I'm getting at, they are not in our "scene" although i hear artist like that being channeled through artist today and since the beginning of Goa.
Usually in most cases the ones who are truly evil in the music industry push light and play fluff hence HIDE, to mask themselves..
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V3NOM
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Posted : Feb 19, 2009 01:05
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yes so STFU and lock this mo fo!
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rich
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Posted : Feb 19, 2009 01:45
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This is psytrance and I think we've learned with this music that we have enough demons inside without some kids putting halloween sounds in their tracks trying to make scary.
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rich
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Posted : Feb 19, 2009 02:37
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...and I have to add, only Suomi can have halloween sounds to make scary and get away with it 
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V3NOM
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Posted : Feb 19, 2009 04:31
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lol... I don;t think any of the acts are trying to sound scary, they just sample horro flicks instead of ye olde sci fi and drug samples.
thank god there is a break from Terence Mckenna, Star Trek and Dune samples!
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DJSHAFT69
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Posted : Mar 12, 2009 22:42
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Hail Satin! Lord of the Dark Upholstery!
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Mar 12, 2009 23:04
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phasetech
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