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IsraTrance Full Member
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Posted : Jan 26, 2009 06:38
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It the most traditional west view, no I dont think devil has a place in this scene.
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if we change to a another cmosmology, loke for example the one of prehispanic indians, Underworld gods could have a place.
like in egyptian religion, death was just the start of another life in the udnerworld, it wasnt realted to evil things.
Maybe some of you have read Carlos Castaneda, well they way he presents shamanic knowledge specially DEATH I think has a place in this scene, You know Death is a very important part of life, and all of our won life we should not lose the sight of death, she is chasing us waiting to take us at any moment. So we must acomplish all our dsires while living.
  "The dedication to repetition — the search for nirvana in a single held tone or an endlessly cycling rhythm — is one of electronic music's noblest gestures." |
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101pigs
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Posted : Jan 26, 2009 10:48
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On 2009-01-25 02:54, Moki.Time.Wave.Zero wrote:
no people seriously. this is a very strange thing that i was experiencing lately with these demons. i really want to know what it is and if others have similar paralizis experiences in their dreams. you know those dreams, you are awake and you know that you are dreaming, you can change the action and the direction of the dream. you can fly, you can breath under water, you can reach the farest places of the milky way and the smallest particles beyond the strings and the quantums...and then THEY COME. they are frightening, terrifying, coming from all places and all directions of all dimensions straight on you...
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...and then you wake up. 
b00m!!!
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Jan 27, 2009 00:45
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Moki - you dont seem to undrstand.. and please dont tell me bout what Im absolutely not able to..
I lost my appetite for the DARK Side some 15 years ago,before that I was in occultism ,alot of other stuff and made some really dark music in another genre and all that stuff.Its nice to see the passion for this magic side - its sweet to me.
But impossible here and there.. lol ..if they are too powerful- you are too weak.
Take it eazy gal.
Cheers
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thegooddale
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Posted : Jan 27, 2009 17:35
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almost every party we have here in Flosstin we put a flaming pentagram in the center of the dancefloor and we have this evil alien being (Deadouin) who came from a far away planet that pokes and prods at the pentafire... |
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chesmo
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Posted : Jan 27, 2009 19:46
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UFF!! i realy read mostly all posts of this topic,
crazy, with what the ppl wasting there time.
even me.
unbelievibel!
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evil stuff, hehe
new Atriohm&Encephalopaticys
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cant wait:)!!!
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Nomolos(Zenon Rec.)
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Posted : Jan 27, 2009 20:53
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Posted : Jan 28, 2009 01:31
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It shouldn't... |
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moki
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Posted : Jan 28, 2009 11:48
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yeah, carlos castaneda is a sort of a trance guide disctionary to me, for many years now. those who think that the " demons" are not powerful should really check this author, all of his books. very important for the trance culture in generall btw. it describes the shamanic ways in term understandable for the west.
TimeTraveller , well i would not compare this to an apetite for dark side. i mean , they just come, they dont ask me. and btw i truely believe that they would never come to a person dedicated to the " dark side" , by means of negativity, because then they have nothing to vapourize from this soul, nothing to steal. they have the dark side already. they wanna have other types of minds for their energy vampirism.
but yes, they are too powerful. i have had discussions with many elder people who are into shamanism or other types of occult and esoteric practises - and they gave me some advise what to do. it works. do you know that if you pronounce the name of god while such a dream is going on, the demons dissappear. you only need to pronounce " i believe in god" . seriously i abolutel made the experience that it works. or you pronounce krishna in the 4 to 4 takt hare krishna. whatever. but the problem is that i am sometimes not so 100 percent awake during my luzid dream, sometimes i only dream, and cannot take action in the dream or pronounce anything.
i dont wanna deal so much with the dark side anymore too. but i am interested in travellers like castaneda and all others and i dam interestedin the shamanic plants. very much. so i guess their spirits belong in the scene and they are simply not red pink gods in happy mood screaming about hedonism and stupidity.
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Jan 28, 2009 13:14
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Hey Moki I get to know with Castaneda also some years ago.I have big respect for this.I read it sometimes in a far high state and was a bit practically this are very special writtings for sure .I didnt read those from Castaneda now to the end.Thats another story.The time was not about to read it to the end back than maybe.
I also made my expiriences and I believe there are many ways and the spelling of hare krsna can be a good way btw ;-) krsna games games of light.It can work against demons even.I wouldnt categorize me totale to one of this ways but these are special sources for sure.An aura of light can block them demons for instance if there is a special need even more.Respect to you Moki
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gutter
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Posted : Jan 28, 2009 13:56
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demons are our fears.. to overcome them you have to face them and not try to avoid, its a fight within inner self
while devil worship on the other hand is plain bullshit, just as every other religious aspect/worship in the music (yeah i hate gospel too  )
music is humanistic imho, you have the god and the demon within you, just have to choose and dance to it ..
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TimeTraveller
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kriz
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moki
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Posted : Jan 28, 2009 14:19
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i decided today that i dont want any images of demons in my home any more. well anyway i have a quite positive decorated home, fully red coloured with only positive images of different cultures, but i am not gonna put any demons on my website anymore, any artwork of mine. enough with the demons. they concentrate bad vibes. it is really so. dont wanna visit any dark parties any more too. actually i did not like at the beginning either. they are concetrating bad energies. it is really true.
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Nectarios
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