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Do Devil Worshipping belong in this scene?
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Jan 28, 2009 15:10
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Respects Moki!" and nice video gutter haha
and just wanna add I love dark music from very few artists but i never love satan or demons.Maybe cheeba demonz but thats than enuff.Me spirit celebrates often to ultrasonic music with deep intense dark elements and mind expanding patterns but I feel good with shantiness and light magic while others might feel connected to the abyss on same sounds.  https://soundcloud.com/shivagarden |
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moki
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Posted : Jan 28, 2009 17:27
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i used to love the devil. now i know it. it was true. but now not anymore. and the slippers guy why dont you fucking stop following me with advises?????????????????????????????
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Nectarios
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demoniac
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moki
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Posted : Jan 29, 2009 01:06
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yeah yeah i am very funny. i will soon have a conversation with the owner of isratrance to discuss the business opportunities and to ask for a percentage of the ads income for doing the clown here.
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V3NOM
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Posted : Jan 29, 2009 06:20
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demon worhsip and satan are different things as demons are part of many different belief systems as well as our personal demons *sigh*
I saw my mate turn into a demon on asssid once1 can I be cool now toooooo?  
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phasetech
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xrust
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Posted : Jan 29, 2009 15:51
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also obvius sexual references at tracks 8 and 9.and we all know that sex is evil
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moki
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Posted : Jan 29, 2009 22:46
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this is a great tip, thanks a lot
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Jedi_knight
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Posted : Feb 15, 2009 19:18
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On 2009-01-25 02:54, Moki.Time.Wave.Zero wrote:
no people seriously. this is a very strange thing that i was experiencing lately with these demons. i really want to know what it is and if others have similar paralizis experiences in their dreams. you know those dreams, you are awake and you know that you are dreaming, you can change the action and the direction of the dream. you can fly, you can breath under water, you can reach the farest places of the milky way and the smallest particles beyond the strings and the quantums...and then THEY COME. they are frightening, terrifying, coming from all places and all directions of all dimensions straight on you...this can only be understood by someone who has seen it....
and i dont know!!!!!!!!!!!!! no idea what it is!!!!!!!!! but i know that the only way to get out of this terrifying paralizis feeling is only if you devote to this obsession they wanna get from you. they really want it.
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From what i remember from my lucid dreams is that yes there exist an evil/dark force and it's very scary when it finds you all of a sudden...
But there is a trick that i used to beat the evil and maybe is useful.
First of all before you get in the lucid dream there is a premonition that tells you that the specific dream will be a nightmare.
I used to see a no signal TV (just snow and a buzz) just like if your antenna isn't working.
From the moment i knew that i will have to face the dark force i did just a simple thing.
I haunted down the dark to find it first before it shows up from nowhere and by this trick i took away the element of suprise which is very important!
After the meeting the evil gets mad and tries to catch me because i challenge it.
Then is time to run.
I run and i run as fast i can but i am sure that it is following me.
I find the tallest/highest point and suddenly while the evil is behind me i jump in the empty space.
Logically in your sleep when you fall from high points you wake up instantly but in this specific moment i've never waken up but in contrary i have always landed in a total new dream!!!
Where the evil is gone because it couldn't follow me and the best part is:
There is not a nightmare anymore!!!
It is totally a new dream, my dream and i can do whatever i want!!!
From then on every thought/wish i make it becomes solid instanly!!!
And of course this is the best dream i have then!!!
I don't know if it works in other person but it definitely worked for me...
1.The signal (you know is a bad drem).
2.You hunt down the evil (to find it first).
3.You let it chase you.
4.You run as fast as you can to reach the higher point.
5.You jump.
6.You fall, the evil can't follow.
7.You land in a new perfect dream (that is all yours to enjoy).
Tricky, eh?
After a lot of times that this happened the signal never came back.
The evil lost the appetite he had for me.
But even if this happen at any time you do exactly the same thing to get over it...
p.s.: You say that you feel paralized when the evil gets you but just think that other people wake up instanly. From the moment you look at them and you face them tells me that you are very strong!!!
It's very normal to be afraid but you don't wake up from your fear and that's the good sign in what you describe!!!
With practice you can be an excellent dream warrior (master)!!!
p.s.2:Feel free to tell your experiences in the right section (and the right people) here : http://forum.isratrance.com/lucid-dreaming/ 
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SeKhUmEt
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toogoodforyou
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Posted : Feb 16, 2009 20:58
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Devil worshipping is extremely immature. As immature as going to temples and asking 'god' for some favors. God and Devil are both a part of us. Good and evil is both inside the human mind.. thats why we recognize it elsewhere. |
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maxtrix
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Posted : Feb 16, 2009 22:31
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hi guys! i read some sides of this topic, but i couldnt read all of it, was too much.
first of all the devil is for me a product of the church to keep people afraid, its easier to controll a punch of scared sheeps then open minded people. they took some pagan gods like pan and turned them into evil monsters to ban all other beliefsystems that there religion is the only "real deal" . and the killed, conquered and robbed in the name of god and its still one of the biggest business-organization in our days. i think in some gospelchurches and in southamerika, where it is mixed up with nature-religions you will find some spiritual experience in there cellebrations. with spiritual experiences i mean dancing and singing together and recognizing that we are all human beeings who share that planet and not a personal visit of god. IMO personifying of god and the devil is the main problem. sounds for me like if i do something bad i still can blame luzifer and dont have do be responsible myself for my actions. for people who worshipping with serious intentions the evil in the personification of the devil, my advice is: grow up, get yourself a hobby and proberbly a girlfriend wouldnt be a bad idea. i also dont really want to see this devil-woreshipping on parties. black magic i think is mostly used by some sick minds to harm others to get more powerful and rich, without confronting them personally, because the are not tuff enough. .
white and black is for me day and night. in the day your brain is busy and stimulated with all the things you see, but in the night when its dark you are alone with your brain and your thoughts and you have to face yourself. so dont be afraid its just you. your brain is a powerfull instrument and tricky too, but you are the master! there are no demons its just your thoughts and beliefs, this is what you learn by meditating to let go from unnecessary thoughts and dont be afraid of them.
for me its the same with the music, there is music for nighttime and music for the morning and day. a goa-party for me starts in the night and ends in daytime, it is the whole journey from dark into light. and dark hasnt mean to be evil its just another energy. same when you making a track you have to built up tension and release it. but i also dont want that by the nightmusic the ultimate goal is do be harder, faster and scarrier. there is a lot of really trippy stuff and it dont have to be full of horrorsamples to be psychedelic. for me its important that there are some wow moments in the music. and i dont want stop dancing.
have a nicy day (life), max, |
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psycho-italiano
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Posted : Feb 16, 2009 23:50
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On 2009-02-16 22:31, maxtrix wrote:
hi guys! i read some sides of this topic, but i couldnt read all of it, was too much.
first of all the devil is for me a product of the church to keep people afraid, its easier to controll a punch of scared sheeps then open minded people. they took some pagan gods like pan and turned them into evil monsters to ban all other beliefsystems that there religion is the only "real deal" . and the killed, conquered and robbed in the name of god and its still one of the biggest business-organization in our days. i think in some gospelchurches and in southamerika, where it is mixed up with nature-religions you will find some spiritual experience in there cellebrations. with spiritual experiences i mean dancing and singing together and recognizing that we are all human beeings who share that planet and not a personal visit of god. IMO personifying of god and the devil is the main problem. sounds for me like if i do something bad i still can blame luzifer and dont have do be responsible myself for my actions. for people who worshipping with serious intentions the evil in the personification of the devil, my advice is: grow up, get yourself a hobby and proberbly a girlfriend wouldnt be a bad idea. i also dont really want to see this devil-woreshipping on parties. black magic i think is mostly used by some sick minds to harm others to get more powerful and rich, without confronting them personally, because the are not tuff enough. .
white and black is for me day and night. in the day your brain is busy and stimulated with all the things you see, but in the night when its dark you are alone with your brain and your thoughts and you have to face yourself. so dont be afraid its just you. your brain is a powerfull instrument and tricky too, but you are the master! there are no demons its just your thoughts and beliefs, this is what you learn by meditating to let go from unnecessary thoughts and dont be afraid of them.
for me its the same with the music, there is music for nighttime and music for the morning and day. a goa-party for me starts in the night and ends in daytime, it is the whole journey from dark into light. and dark hasnt mean to be evil its just another energy. same when you making a track you have to built up tension and release it. but i also dont want that by the nightmusic the ultimate goal is do be harder, faster and scarrier. there is a lot of really trippy stuff and it dont have to be full of horrorsamples to be psychedelic. for me its important that there are some wow moments in the music. and i dont want stop dancing.
have a nicy day (life), max,
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Well said fellow!
By the end its all our mind creation , everything around us and within us is created by our thoughts only…nothing else is responsible for that…
God , Satan , Evil , Devil , potato chips , pizza , chocolate , good music , bad music , all imaginary or physical products are our own products. its all a human mind creation….it doesn’t exist by default…
But , in our nature we like the mystery and we like to create hallucinated stories in order to get some attention from others , this is in case we tell those stories , but if someone is smart enough and like to study the whole thing behind those things he see (Spiritual beings , good as bad) he will see that he created them….
Simply we create our reality… there are endless realities…….but mainly there are 2 catagories:
Good and bad…….under them there are the endless versions with endless spiritual objects….depends on what we like to think about.
what we see around us at this moment exists , and it belongs to 1 conscious that has been split to many pieces (me , you , everyone on this planet including the planet and the rest of universes and there all dimensions).
Everyone of us can simply also split him self also to more pieces by imaginations….its endless….
So, if we like to believe that Devil exists….then yes it is , coz we wanted it to be exist…..and guess what , if we want it so much, then we can meet it physically too in many deferent forms…… but its better not to be dum-ass and think about those things…
I know its cool to have those Metal CD’s with all Devil pictures on it , I love it too….i have also Devil tattoos on my body….
but hey! If I like those images it doesn’t mean I like to be like that or act like that (except with some girls for short time) but I act and have healthy clean thoughts about positive power that I like to share with everyone….
Those clean thoughts lead me to have super awareness about the universe that generates a lot of energy and I feel that everyone should clean his mind too in order to have this amazing energy……..so stop the fire feeling and aggressive thoughts in your mind….
Your feelings are actually the result of your direct thoughts.
Once you clean your thoughts you have super powerful feelings….it takes time but it worth it.
Again , don’t delete or through the devil , satanic images if you like them , also make those tattoos on your body , its nice and sexy , but never ever act like devil with other people!!!!
Stay clean.
--- *** well , there is exceptional thing and it is: be devil and evil with the girl you like at the beginning hehe , in order to have her if she acts hard to get…;) this works. Then after having her , act like human. Don’t be a pig!
peace friends!
be happy and trippy
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Ellon
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Posted : Feb 17, 2009 00:26
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On 2009-02-16 23:50, psycho-italiano wrote:
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On 2009-02-16 22:31, maxtrix wrote:
hi guys! i read some sides of this topic, but i couldnt read all of it, was too much.
first of all the devil is for me a product of the church to keep people afraid, its easier to controll a punch of scared sheeps then open minded people. they took some pagan gods like pan and turned them into evil monsters to ban all other beliefsystems that there religion is the only "real deal" . and the killed, conquered and robbed in the name of god and its still one of the biggest business-organization in our days. i think in some gospelchurches and in southamerika, where it is mixed up with nature-religions you will find some spiritual experience in there cellebrations. with spiritual experiences i mean dancing and singing together and recognizing that we are all human beeings who share that planet and not a personal visit of god. IMO personifying of god and the devil is the main problem. sounds for me like if i do something bad i still can blame luzifer and dont have do be responsible myself for my actions. for people who worshipping with serious intentions the evil in the personification of the devil, my advice is: grow up, get yourself a hobby and proberbly a girlfriend wouldnt be a bad idea. i also dont really want to see this devil-woreshipping on parties. black magic i think is mostly used by some sick minds to harm others to get more powerful and rich, without confronting them personally, because the are not tuff enough. .
white and black is for me day and night. in the day your brain is busy and stimulated with all the things you see, but in the night when its dark you are alone with your brain and your thoughts and you have to face yourself. so dont be afraid its just you. your brain is a powerfull instrument and tricky too, but you are the master! there are no demons its just your thoughts and beliefs, this is what you learn by meditating to let go from unnecessary thoughts and dont be afraid of them.
for me its the same with the music, there is music for nighttime and music for the morning and day. a goa-party for me starts in the night and ends in daytime, it is the whole journey from dark into light. and dark hasnt mean to be evil its just another energy. same when you making a track you have to built up tension and release it. but i also dont want that by the nightmusic the ultimate goal is do be harder, faster and scarrier. there is a lot of really trippy stuff and it dont have to be full of horrorsamples to be psychedelic. for me its important that there are some wow moments in the music. and i dont want stop dancing.
have a nicy day (life), max,
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Well said fellow!
By the end its all our mind creation , everything around us and within us is created by our thoughts only…nothing else is responsible for that…
God , Satan , Evil , Devil , potato chips , pizza , chocolate , good music , bad music , all imaginary or physical products are our own products. its all a human mind creation….it doesn’t exist by default…
But , in our nature we like the mystery and we like to create hallucinated stories in order to get some attention from others , this is in case we tell those stories , but if someone is smart enough and like to study the whole thing behind those things he see (Spiritual beings , good as bad) he will see that he created them….
Simply we create our reality… there are endless realities…….but mainly there are 2 catagories:
Good and bad…….under them there are the endless versions with endless spiritual objects….depends on what we like to think about.
what we see around us at this moment exists , and it belongs to 1 conscious that has been split to many pieces (me , you , everyone on this planet including the planet and the rest of universes and there all dimensions).
Everyone of us can simply also split him self also to more pieces by imaginations….its endless….
So, if we like to believe that Devil exists….then yes it is , coz we wanted it to be exist…..and guess what , if we want it so much, then we can meet it physically too in many deferent forms…… but its better not to be dum-ass and think about those things…
I know its cool to have those Metal CD’s with all Devil pictures on it , I love it too….i have also Devil tattoos on my body….
but hey! If I like those images it doesn’t mean I like to be like that or act like that (except with some girls for short time) but I act and have healthy clean thoughts about positive power that I like to share with everyone….
Those clean thoughts lead me to have super awareness about the universe that generates a lot of energy and I feel that everyone should clean his mind too in order to have this amazing energy……..so stop the fire feeling and aggressive thoughts in your mind….
Your feelings are actually the result of your direct thoughts.
Once you clean your thoughts you have super powerful feelings….it takes time but it worth it.
Again , don’t delete or through the devil , satanic images if you like them , also make those tattoos on your body , its nice and sexy , but never ever act like devil with other people!!!!
Stay clean.
--- *** well , there is exceptional thing and it is: be devil and evil with the girl you like at the beginning hehe , in order to have her if she acts hard to get…;) this works. Then after having her , act like human. Don’t be a pig!
peace friends!
be happy and trippy
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Actually those categories dont exist either..or even better they are also a product of oneself!!!! What is good or bad? How can we with our very small perspective of "reality" be able to establish such a category? A deteminate action can be good and than became bad and actually it was good for a parallel phenomena while it was bad for another ongoing phenomena. So to establish this ethic title of good and bad is tricky.
If you believe in a premeditation of existence, than good is everything that contributes for the "triumph" of such premeditation and bad everything that stands in the way of its progress. Now the Devil worshiping, as ridiculous as it might sound to many can actually be a good thing if, in a non compreensive way to us all, contributes to the constant development of the mankind, of the universe or God (which can actually mean the same thing) - silly, no?
I really think that it's very funny how we have really no clue about such concepts and where they trully apply...
And i'm not talking about "Ethical" anarchy, as i truly feel that some of the "rules" are carved deep into most of us but i feel that the true sense of good and evil is completely unperceivable to us...
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