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DETOX
IsraTrance Senior Member
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Posted : Nov 9, 2003 18:09
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Nice words yossi.
Its sad to see that in Israel the music scene is so shit (in terms of buying),its a pitty cause thats were all started mostly 
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mechanix
mechanix
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Posted : Nov 9, 2003 19:04
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if just the djs was buy cds this sceane was look diferent!
i have now album out and all my good friends that have my album 5/6 mounthes before he was out in the shops went to buy this album!
realy if every dj or guys that call to there selfs dj will buy 2 cds in mounth it will help alot to this sceane!
lets hope a:)
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yossi
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Posted : Nov 9, 2003 21:04
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walla.. cool point man.
personaly, i know very few dj`s who do try to buy alot of original music, same go`s for artists.
winkwink... we need a 12" comeback
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Pavel
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Posted : Nov 9, 2003 21:27
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Just came back today from Tower Records, seems like someone heard my thoughts there and some cd's appeared, but it's again 90% local releases, not that there's anything with our music but i wanted something different for a change.
BTW i bought Mercury Rev in the end.
Saw the new Hujaboy album, it has a really wicked cover, but i didn't bought it in the end...
Maybe next time.
Anyways to the topic:
It really sucks the sutuation here, and there's nothing i can do personally, which frustrates me greately.
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Shanti Alien
Vectro Electro
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Posted : Nov 10, 2003 16:08
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On 2003-11-09 17:29, yossi wrote:
the only thing that`s left to do is to buy originals by ourselves and to let ppl around us (friends, family etc etc..) know how deep we r in this shit.
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This works for my friends.
I used to "brainwash" them about how bad the situation is and now some of them started buying cd's and thanking me for enjoying the good advice, sound quality and the artwork and all the interesting info's inside.
The thing is to get to their minds and make them understand the situation.
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Te_nTe
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Posted : Nov 11, 2003 21:49
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I think the problem is in people that prefer listening house or pop and not trance.
so the shop cant afford to but 2 shelves of psytrance and offer to so small amount of people
but better put 3 shelves of pop and house and rock - they will get more money from that - think about it too
i agree that also people must start buying cd's.
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Can someone enlighten me and explain me how it works and why what was once an almost standalone department in Tower Records in Opera Towers, nowadays shares place in the stand with Tiesto compilations and crap like that?
Maybe this chain is too long?
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If you call tiesto compilations - crap you really wrong. The production of tiesto compilation is 400% professional than any psytrance - also be sure that people buying more tiesto compilations than some psytrance compilations.
Peace
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Pavel
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Posted : Nov 11, 2003 22:11
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Pavel said:
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Can someone enlighten me and explain me how it works and why what was once an almost standalone department in Tower Records in Opera Towers, nowadays shares place in the stand with Tiesto compilations and crap like that?
Maybe this chain is too long?
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If you call tiesto compilations - crap you really wrong. The production of tiesto compilation is 400% professional than any psytrance - also be sure that people buying more tiesto compilations than some psytrance compilations.
Peace
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I agree that he is more popular than any psy act will ever be and his production might be better than anyone of them, but that really doesn't change me a thing, don't like him, period
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tokyokid
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Posted : Nov 12, 2003 02:17
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DETOX: u sold your CD for letz say 6 euro to Cosmophila, they sell it to shops for 11,75. so they make 5,75 euro out of it. why? are u DETOX earn 5,75 euro on each CD? for sure not.
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Mike A
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Posted : Nov 12, 2003 02:34
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We don't need distributors. Let the labels sell it directly to the stores!
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Nathan
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Posted : Nov 12, 2003 21:58
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Not long tine ego BNE was the distributor of Hommega. what happened to that... I wonder.
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DETOX
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Posted : Nov 13, 2003 05:33
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Tokyokid you are so right my friend.And because Starsound Records no more wants to work with these kind of people that buy the cd for 6 euros and sell it to the stores for 11.75 and then you have to beg to those people to actually get your money back after 6-8 months we decided to work with a different distributor that cares also about the music and not just to make a profit,i wont mention the name of our distributor cause i wouldnt like to advertise on a topic like this.
I have to inform you though (like you probably already know) thats its very difficult in our times to avoid working with the 'big boys' of the trance industry since they are simply everywhere.
BUT you wanna listen to the funny thing my friend tokyokid?Some of the shops now buy our cds lets say for 8 euros from our distributor but they still sell them 13.50 like they used to do before.In either case someone makes a bigger profit except the label ofcourse.In the first case the distributor was the winner and in the second case the shops are the winners LOL
At least we sell more now with our new distributor cause we along with him work closely together to promote our music the best we can.
All that people need in this world is more communication 
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Mike A
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Posted : Nov 13, 2003 13:31
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A question, might be related - all those RIAA companies, are they distributers or labels?
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rippa
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Posted : Nov 29, 2003 14:58
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many true things was written above..
but lets be honest to tell if the artists themselves see any prophets from thier cds?
i bet that 90$ dont see a dolar of it , and the cd is just to promote the artists to where the big money is - Parties , a big artist lets say Astrix takes at leat 2000-2500 nis. per show , so if he plays lets say even 4-5 times a month this still a nice salery , so here's my idea , let the labels to discount the prices for lets say 50 nis per cd , not 84 like today , and then the sells will rise , promotion will come , and more invantentions to play in parties where the big money is. simple and idea and im sure will work.
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Pavel
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Posted : Nov 29, 2003 15:12
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On 2003-11-29 14:58, rippa wrote:
many true things was written above..
but lets be honest to tell if the artists themselves see any prophets from thier cds?
i bet that 90$ dont see a dolar of it , and the cd is just to promote the artists to where the big money is - Parties , a big artist lets say Astrix takes at leat 2000-2500 nis. per show , so if he plays lets say even 4-5 times a month this still a nice salery , so here's my idea , let the labels to discount the prices for lets say 50 nis per cd , not 84 like today , and then the sells will rise , promotion will come , and more invantentions to play in parties where the big money is. simple and idea and im sure will work.
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I hope they'll start a proper distribution atleast.
In Israeli shops i can find almost exclusively Israeli material. I am not saying that it's worse than the European material, but sometimes it's just not enough.
Where's DS cds in the shops? Where's Twisted, 3Dvision and Spiral Trax music? And i don't even mention the smaller labels.
Last time i saw something new from Spirit Zone on the shelf was almost 2 years ago.
What's up with that?
Where are all those anti mp3 and anti burned cd's fighters? When you say that the scene is not commercial at all and allow only the ppl with INTL credit cards to enjoy the music than something really sucks.
I am " " " lucky " " " to live in Israel so i should have some kind of access to Psy Trance material, but the truth is that the only cds i see in the shops is same ol' BNE/Hommega/Com.Pact/Phonokol.
Come on, now it's your turn to call me pirate and use your demagogue tactics.
All i want is a name of a shop where i can find new material from Europe.
That's all.
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GuyShanti
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Posted : Dec 1, 2003 18:31
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lets put a cork in this thread:
although Israel is considered "a big market" it is really not.
the level of sales is such that it is simply not profitable to distribute trance cds. it has been like that for a few years but the bubble has burst only recently. thats why many ppl got screwed over the years, in Israel and abroad.
mabey things will change when the format changes - cds are not good media imho.
the irony is that the situation which was created by music over the internet, now drives those who want up to date music back to the web as their only source...
sad
Guy
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