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palex
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Posted : Nov 14, 2006 11:21
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hey ocelot bro..i couldnt say it better!!
congrats
 
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Nov 14, 2006 11:34
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On 2006-11-14 09:36, ocelot wrote:
its not live. nobody is making up the music on the spot.
maybe maybe they are jamming on top of their premade music. (playing an instrument or triggering loops or singing or whatever)
in techno many people used to play patterns from drum machines and synthesizers and then turn on and off patterns and change the settings on the sound live to assemble something like new material from some peices... the problem is the range of sounds is limited and there's not too much of an interesting musical journey you can do for it- so its usually best done with minimal percussive based music- perhaps one could jam on top with some instrument or sing or something to make it less loopy and more interesting...
anyway- when it comes to psy trance- the very structure of the music is sequenced out ahead of time- one could not assemble very good psy trance live i think because the essence of good psy is the surprise and the journey- there's just no substitute for spending 40 hours on a track to make a really interesting 6-8 minutes of music.
so when and artist is presenting his or her music (the result of countless hours of work in the studio mind you) it is called a "live pa" or something...
probably it would be better to just say the artist has crafted some music he/she would like to present for our dancing pleasure etc...
anyway- would you rather see a monkey dancing around the stage with a guitar making bad sounds on top of his music, or hear high quality sound prepared with care, time, and craft?
do you really need the artist to wank off for you
or can they please just play their music without all this "live" talk.
ableton live is a good tool for presenting your premade music and perhaps adding some loops on top. you could even assemble techno music in real time from premade loops. good psy trance made live in live? i doubt it. maybe theyve issued a good sample pack with premade loops for hours of trance making fun i dunno. i do find it hilarious that they named it live.
dude of course its live. hes using live. and look- his clip view is loaded up not the arrange window!
how come i only see one audio channel playing then?
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Good points Ocelot; no-one likes to hear their favourite tracks ruined by a fret-wanking guitarist, and back in the days when Nigel was in the band I nearly walked off stage at one gig because he was making horrible screeching noises over the music and wouldn't stop. However it is possible for live instruments to make a positive additional contribution to a live set, and with experience you can even "make up the music on the spot" without detracting from what is already there. "High quality sound prepared with care, time, and craft" does not preclude a live performance, and to say it does is incredibly frustrating to those of us trying our hardest to raise the standard of performances in our scene.
In the light of what you wrote above, about the impossibile and unneccesary nature of "live" psytrance, I'm sure you won't mind if we all rip the shit out of you when we see a flyer or party listing with "Ocelot - LIVE" on it
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psytheriatsunami
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Posted : Nov 14, 2006 20:35
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i quite dont get it....
if i just reproduce without mixing my tunes... is that a "live act"
if not...
would it be a "live act" if i just add some live effects and samples?
if not...
do i have to use a sequencer to call it live act? |
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psytheriatsunami
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Posted : Nov 14, 2006 20:37
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im wondering if anyone has heard of the existence of improvised psytrance.
i think improvisated chill wouldnt be so hard for average musicians.
i always wondered if this exists. |
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Watter
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Posted : Nov 14, 2006 22:17
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mr_sparx
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Posted : Nov 14, 2006 23:46
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i think the term "live" throws everyone 
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Krell
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Posted : Nov 15, 2006 07:45
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On 2006-11-13 10:58, MercuryFall wrote:
Of course, it would be more accurate to write "Producers" on the flyers, instead of "Live-acts", but the public like to be screwed 
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Or perhaps just stop writing "live" and just write the brand names of the artists...
Like this
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Hallucinogen(Twisted Records)
Tristan(Twisted Records)
DJs
Simon P(Twisted Records)
Tim Larner(Zenon Records)
Then the production sets are just pure headliners.
- Lars
Label DJ>
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mr_sparx
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Posted : Nov 15, 2006 09:50
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nice idea krell
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Drunken Monk
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Posted : Nov 16, 2006 15:49
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well said ocelot.. (and krell about the presentation on flyers..)
This isnt rock n roll.. we dont want to be (or listen to) rock stars.
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mr_sparx
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Posted : Nov 17, 2006 02:39
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the amount of dust that has been kicked up about this whole "Live" thing over the past i think its time the organisers started thinking seriously about redefining the terms used on their flyers
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