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Deadbeat Party Promoters!
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JoMaJo
Audio Junkies
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Posted : Aug 29, 2005 13:26
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Well i was just reading a review of some after party @ the Kinneret where apparantly the DJs were the only ones that knew they had to come.. and the organizers left without paying anyone..
http://forum.isratrance.com/viewtopic.php/topic/69898/forum/50
so what do u think people is it time to settle the score?
should we expose all those that exploit the artists and don't hold up to their words in the forum?
is it time for bad promoters black list?
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OpuS
IsraTrance Junior Member
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Posted : Aug 29, 2005 19:20
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sounds fair for the ppl ...
just dont make it a personal bitching list
 Follow the footsteps ...
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GuyShanti
Aerospace
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Posted : Aug 31, 2005 14:59
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Shanti Alien
Vectro Electro
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Posted : Sep 1, 2005 02:02
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I think it's a wise idea.
This forum is read by many artists who have a lot to say and also by many party organizers that will watch their words from now on (if this thread will go in the right direction) and it could even prevent future fuckups... I also have a few to add but I just don't want to be the first one to go...
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BLACK LIST!!!!!!!
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S.D6 (Yakir .B.)
IsraTrance Full Member
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Posted : Sep 3, 2005 17:29
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well i am very glad to see that someone care about it,
i have posted theat topic to warn other ppl's.
BTW:
haim, i was the first so you can post few name's here...
BLACK LIST INDEED!!!!!!
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S.D6 & Iron Madness- Dinak Production - Acidance Rec.
S.D6 Vs. Iron Madness- Blues Mystery - Doof Rec. & Yellow Sunshine Explosions rec.
Deepsky and Marc .M.- Lost In the moment (Deep Six remix) - Iboga rec. (Soon) |
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shahar
IsraTrance Team
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Posted : Sep 4, 2005 00:04
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I always thought that black lists are a dumb idea.
In 2 weeks you'll have the majority of party promoters throwing shit at each other (under disguise of course) and every frustrated wannabe DJ & artist doing the same on ppl who don't want to book them. Every side will say the other side is lying and we'll be stuck with loads of garbage and nothing positive coming out of it.
in the few times that people tried this in various online communities in the past that was the outcome.
I advise against it.
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"There is only one corner of the universe you can be certain of improving, and that's your own self."
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NTD
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Posted : Sep 11, 2005 10:44
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ok i got to play in a party this week,
when i got there i understtod that the dj's that allready finished the set have problems getting the payment they should have got.
i asked the promoter for my money before i got on to play, he said i came too early.(as if more ppl going to come after 7am, when i was supposed to play)
as time past and my set time got close i understood that im am not going to get the payment we agreed upon, so i told him i leave and left home and didnt play my set.
i think that producer should have the money BEFORE he invites djs to play.
the situation where a dj does hes job and the producer tells some dodgy stories about he's losses is just not right.
he can ask the dj to take the losses in mind, the dj might give a discount because of the situation but it is not logical that a dj will drive 2 hours , pay gas, play a set and then the producer starts playing games.
i know that im going to ask money first then play.
and reccomand anyone that playes @ unknown producers events.
if anyone needs more info...PM me |
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Zombizoola
IsraTrance Junior Member
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Posted : Sep 12, 2005 18:06
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On 2005-09-11 10:44, NTD wrote:
ok i got to play in a party this week,
when i got there i understtod that the dj's that allready finished the set have problems getting the payment they should have got.
i asked the promoter for my money before i got on to play, he said i came too early.(as if more ppl going to come after 7am, when i was supposed to play)
as time past and my set time got close i understood that im am not going to get the payment we agreed upon, so i told him i leave and left home and didnt play my set.
i think that producer should have the money BEFORE he invites djs to play.
the situation where a dj does hes job and the producer tells some dodgy stories about he's losses is just not right.
he can ask the dj to take the losses in mind, the dj might give a discount because of the situation but it is not logical that a dj will drive 2 hours , pay gas, play a set and then the producer starts playing games.
i know that im going to ask money first then play.
and reccomand anyone that playes @ unknown producers events.
if anyone needs more info...PM me
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i agree with you 100%!
a production should have the money to the dj's ready, with no connection to the profit or lossing money!
when i made my party i lost money but i payed all the djs exactly what they should get, their money was ready long time before the party, its not right to not give money to the djs because your losses, like you said Rani, "he can ask the dj to take the losses in mind", its not fair to do such things...
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NTD
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Posted : Sep 13, 2005 10:25
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On 2005-09-12 18:06, Zombizoola wrote:
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when i made my party i lost money but i payed all the djs exactly what they should get, their money was ready long time before the party,
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hi zombizoola 
true, u were 100% @ your parties, i hope everyone will learn to act like u did
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Ananda604
IsraTrance Full Member
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Posted : Sep 13, 2005 20:45
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it happened to me as well, and I am talking big money, two artists from abroad , they were nice and did discount but ofcourse they got paid even if i got a big minus in the bank afterwards haha
anyways, such things happen in all the sides of workers in parties.
I learnt when i do decoration i take half before and half when the decoration is set and people are getting in so the organizer can't get away saying he has no money .
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Zombizoola
IsraTrance Junior Member
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Posted : Sep 13, 2005 22:47
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On 2005-09-13 10:25, NTD wrote:
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On 2005-09-12 18:06, Zombizoola wrote:
when i made my party i lost money but i payed all the djs exactly what they should get, their money was ready long time before the party,
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hi zombizoola
true, u were 100% @ your parties, i hope everyone will learn to act like u did
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10x mate cya at the next one  |
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S.D6 (Yakir .B.)
IsraTrance Full Member
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Posted : Sep 14, 2005 00:28
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i hope all of the party organizer's will pay us for our job...
anyway,
now i know to take half befor i even touch the cdj or laptop!!
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S.D6 & Iron Madness- Dinak Production - Acidance Rec.
S.D6 Vs. Iron Madness- Blues Mystery - Doof Rec. & Yellow Sunshine Explosions rec.
Deepsky and Marc .M.- Lost In the moment (Deep Six remix) - Iboga rec. (Soon) |
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GuyShanti
Aerospace
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Posted : Sep 14, 2005 10:59
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shahar
IsraTrance Team
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Posted : Sep 14, 2005 13:00
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And listen to Shanti, he knows, believe me... hehe...
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M.K. Gandhi
"There is only one corner of the universe you can be certain of improving, and that's your own self."
Aldous Huxley
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JoMaJo
Audio Junkies
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Posted : Sep 14, 2005 19:21
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well i have to agree with guy, and also with a 50% deposit - it is definitely a good start...
i think there should be a Black list section.. where artists can add their complaints about a certain promoter (name of organization, and country, name of the people who book etc.) and when there's over 5 complaints it should become public to all, what do u think?.. |
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