Criminal organizers beating artist and crowd - NOT A JOKE

On 2006-09-20 16:58, jaramogi wrote:
true!
i dont know why its so important to love your country, i almost hate mine, and never would defend it...

On 2006-09-20 22:36, DETOX wrote:
i am just saying that he is also responsible for bringing himself in this situation which he more or less also admitted in his post.I mean when you are treated bad and with lies in the first place only worst things can happen after that if you tolerate this behavior and unfortunately this is what happened in Adam's case.

liaba a oasch ois a tiroler oder wie ?

On 2006-09-20 02:20, DETOX wrote:
Psycosmo i said some things but you still ignore them,it might suite you to do so but i am obliged to say the same things again.Baseline trust?I am asking you again what kind of trust you can show to someone who you dont know at all and has already not kept his word twice?You said that the organizer probably assured him that he would have the money by the time of the party,well wasnt it the same organizer who in the first place aggreed TWO TIMES to send advance money and never did?Sorry mate but baseline trust is when i am calling you as an organiser and telling you in the first place that i am doing this party here and i cant pay you any advance at all and i will pay you after you perform at the party,then there is a baseline trust by the artists side since the organiser is crystal clear from the beggining and doesnt try to earn any time using cheap tricks.When the organisers has lied twice to the artist then there is no such thing as baseline trust but excessive lying from the organisers side and naive behaviour from the artist in the best case scenario.

By the way you seem to ignore the fact that i give half the blame to the organiser and the other half to the artist,i am not backing up any stupid organiser here neither i am defending him,i am saying loud and clear that this Serbian guy is a joke and must get punished BUT i am also saying that artists are also responsible for this situation because in order to get bookings they accept whatever offer they organisers present them and in the end they are getting exploited for some dollars a two hours dj set and a plane ticket.Organisers treat some artists like shit because the particular artists allow them to do so.If Parahalu had some more self respect this would never had happened and he would tell the guy to fuck off with his lies and cheap offers.

By the way before talking about me and accusing me for making people like that stupid promoter feel that he can get away with what he has done i advice you to make a little research about me,i am a promoter too you know for some years now,browse this forum and the net and see what people and artists have to say about me and my methods and then come up here again and tell me if i am backing up such shameless persons or not either with my actions or words.

For you the purpose of this topic is to find out who these idiots are and punish them or whatever.For me the primary purpose of this post is to serve as an example of how artists SHOULD NOT THINK,ACT AND BEHAVE so that exploiting promoters will soon dissappear (since there will be noone to exploit anymore) and incidents like this one will never take place again.

You see my friend while you are looking at the tree i am looking at the forest

On 2006-09-21 23:01, NoxLupi wrote:

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On 2006-09-20 22:36, DETOX wrote: i am just saying that he is also responsible for bringing himself in this situation which he more or less also admitted in his post.I mean when you are treated bad and with lies in the first place only worst things can happen after that if you tolerate this behavior and unfortunately this is what happened in Adam's case.

True! you just kind of put it wrong in your first post. Anyways Adam and the rest of the crew put them selves at risk. but actualy they just went to work.. and thats why i state that they did nothing wrong! well your an intelligent person so no need to go into details here, as you can se i agree with you but i dont LOL.. dosnt make sence, but it does.. OMG.. im cracy. but this is how i feel about this.

On 2006-09-25 20:55, ocelot wrote:
but under NO circumstances shall assault or battery or worse be excused...

On 2006-09-25 20:55, ocelot wrote:
thats like blaming the rape victim for wearing a short dress...

You would be suprised to know that in many countries,and especially USA,many people accused of rape or sexual harrasment have been found non guilty or received much less punishment because of what you just claimed to be more or less an irony or even a joke.The judge decided that the sexual harrasment victims dressed or acted in such a way that caused to themselves the attack by other people,thats why in Parahalu's case i insist that half the blame belongs to Adam because with his behavior and decisions he caused this sad situation to himself.