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GlowingFigure8
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Posted : Apr 12, 2007 19:12
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dj Dragon
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Posted : Apr 12, 2007 20:56
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On 2007-04-11 19:31, MKultraProjects wrote:
my main gripe is with samples from SAW, SAW2, SAW3
its so played out hearing this guys scruffy voice in songs. its mad corny, and there are songs still being released last month that use this samples from this damn movie.
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I know ! but the weird thing is that I used a bunch of samples from the 1st SAW movie in an older track of mine, that don't include anything of the old guys voice... I almost did and realized how cheasy it was no matter how bad ass of a track you might drop it in..
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Star Saphire Dragon
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Posted : Apr 12, 2007 21:25
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On 2007-04-05 01:09, PsyCore wrote:
When a crappy sample comes along like the one about 5 min into the first track on BlackAndWhite's album last year (SOMETHING FOR YOUR MIND, YOUR BODY, AND YOUR SOUL!!) my friends and I stop dancing, throw our arms up in the air, look at each other and yell "CRAPPY SAMPLE ALARM!!!! AUUUGGGGHHHH!!!"
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It's so sad and so true. Dam you crummy samples, dam you!!!!!! (waving fist high in air) |
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robyo
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Posted : Apr 12, 2007 23:51
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Copyright and corniness issues aside, I think it's just cooler to put your own original samples in a track...
I carry a minidisc recorder most places I go and sample anything that is keen to my ears. I like to insert my friends voices on my tracks. It's original and fun. Just got to be sure to let them know you're recording them, or they might not appreciate it!
I'm also a fan of talk radio (Alex Jones, Jack Blood, George Noorie, etc) and get a lot of samples that way too.
Sampling movies gets played out, unless the movie is "Rockers!" |
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KaiserSoze
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Posted : Apr 13, 2007 00:31
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I-man serve Selassie I continually. No matter what the weak heart say. And I know that I & I is like a tree, plant by the river of water, and not even the dog that piss against the wall of Babylon shall escape this judgment. For I & I know that all of the youth shall witness the day that Babylon shall fall!
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nicksynergy
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Posted : Apr 13, 2007 00:40
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I'd be happy to hear NO more samples from the following sources:
The Matrix (ANY of the Matrix movies). Those films take themselves far too seriously, and that translates right into the tracks that sample them.
Terrence McKenna. Yeah, he was a very unique and original mind and everything, but his voice is annoying (at least to me) and it's rather cliche at this point to sample him. The Shamen and Spacetime Continuum already covered plenty of ground there in the 90s.
Sci-Fi movies, wherein the sample used is something very specific to said movie. For instance, using Star Trek samples that specifically mention the Borg, the Romulans, etc. It leaves little room for imagination.
Waking Life. Partially due to overuse, and partially due to my own distaste for the sort of mystically-oriented, "reality is an illusion" samples that are pervasive throughout psytrance. A noteable exception to my Waking Life rule is Pixel's "Happy Lepsya." |
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mubali
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Posted : Apr 13, 2007 02:45
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Maybe we should just stop sampling altogether.... but then how are we gonna describe the tracks? Honestly, if the sample really has nothing to do with the feel of the track, then it shouldn't be there. Most of the time samples are used as general filler for when you don't really know what sound to use but you still need to fill up that 8 seconds before your new part...
and btw... most music takes itself too seriously...
I wouldn't mind more McKenna samples if they were different than what was used. you don't like his voice, change it...
every sci fi movie is gonna get sampled to death, hell every movie will be sampled to death, why??? A connection between the familiar and the unfamiliar (very similar to acid trips) you hear some strange sounds and followed by a familiar sample from something you might have had a connection with, then you tend to remember the track. Even the ones that have samples you hate, you remember... and that is truely the point. Is creating memories from something that has become quite contemporary and disposable.
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robyo
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Posted : Apr 13, 2007 05:05
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On 2007-04-13 00:31, KaiserSoze wrote:
I-man serve Selassie I continually. No matter what the weak heart say. And I know that I & I is like a tree, plant by the river of water, and not even the dog that piss against the wall of Babylon shall escape this judgment. For I & I know that all of the youth shall witness the day that Babylon shall fall!
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YAY!! Thanks Scott, that made my day 
@Mubali, I tend to agree with your last statement. Familiar samples definitely help people connect with the music. But it can also be distracting when I'm zoning into an instrumental track and suddenly hear some tired sample from last year's big budget sci-fi flick or whatever. Sometimes it actually works and adds to the song, but more often, it kinda sucks. Either way, using easily found samples is a slippery slope. |
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damon
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Posted : Apr 13, 2007 07:28
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On 2007-04-13 05:05, robyo wrote:
@Mubali, I tend to agree with your last statement. Familiar samples definitely help people connect with the music. But it can also be distracting when I'm zoning into an instrumental track and suddenly hear some tired sample from last year's big budget sci-fi flick or whatever. Sometimes it actually works and adds to the song, but more often, it kinda sucks. Either way, using easily found samples is a slippery slope.
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Maybe artists should use more non-english samples?
I ususally treat vocal as another instrument used in track. And being not able to understand the words helps me a lot
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robyo
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Posted : Apr 13, 2007 15:56
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On 2007-04-13 07:28, damon wrote:
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On 2007-04-13 05:05, robyo wrote:
@Mubali, I tend to agree with your last statement. Familiar samples definitely help people connect with the music. But it can also be distracting when I'm zoning into an instrumental track and suddenly hear some tired sample from last year's big budget sci-fi flick or whatever. Sometimes it actually works and adds to the song, but more often, it kinda sucks. Either way, using easily found samples is a slippery slope.
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Maybe artists should use more non-english samples?
I ususally treat vocal as another instrument used in track. And being not able to understand the words helps me a lot
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That's cool Damon. But what about those times when the lyrics are saying, "the DJ is a fucknut" in the sexiest French you can imagine? |
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damon
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Posted : Apr 13, 2007 16:16
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On 2007-04-13 15:56, robyo wrote:
That's cool Damon. But what about those times when the lyrics are saying, "the DJ is a fucknut" in the sexiest French you can imagine?
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I really don't care
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OpenSourceCode
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Posted : Apr 13, 2007 17:01
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"the DJ is a fucknut" en francais?
I would play that shit! |
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mubali
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Posted : Apr 13, 2007 23:06
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To each their own I guess, i tend not to use many samples at all, but for me the relevance to the track is what I like to see in samples where you can actually determine what they said. if it's something in another language, i might be determined to find out exactly what it mean, if I can discern what is being said. so it's just a matter of preference. We all have our own ones, and thats why we can make our own music... avoid the stuff you don't like
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airika-audio
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Posted : Apr 13, 2007 23:53
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Yeah. I think you guys have pretty much covered all of the crappy samples I can think of off the top of my head.
Back in the day they were kinda cool though. Atleast the first few times I heard the tracks. Im just surprised that the same samples keep getting used. There are soooo many unused samples out there, that could be done well.
Im always impressed by a really well edited sample by an artist or engineer with some serious creativity. |
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@ktif
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Posted : Apr 14, 2007 02:16
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I LOVE foreign language samples. It adds a great deal of mystery as to "what" is actually being said, thus envoking a bit more thought while experiencing the music. Claw Vs. Paranoise: Deadly Alliance has a great sample where it sounds like 2 foreign people arguing in latin or something, but then again it is that album that made me despise SAW samples for ever being used.
I personally think that sampling something that you feel is relevent is perfectly fine. Just please try to be a bit more origional. My .02. |
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