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Takuan"the pickled radish"
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Posted : Sep 23, 2005 00:57
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i just bought a Kali statue that has 10 heads 10 arms & 10 legs it is pretty awesome it will make you have some incredible visions |
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gatsby
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Posted : Sep 23, 2005 01:15
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yes but to keep it truly liberal and open and free, you must permit people to bring their own spiritual expression. If you say "No God Symbols Allowed", then that also is a form of oppression of your party goers.
But I agree it is with a delicate touch that you use these spiritual symbols if you use them, and that is how we use them if we do.
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On 2005-09-23 00:54, HandA wrote:
I am not sure how much people here are aware of that the intention with this scene when it started out (before it ever reached USA) was to keep it NON religious, free from symbols, free from racism and allow anyone inside no matter skin color, dresscode or sexual prefernces and only focus on the music that spoke to people across borders because it was universal.
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Mistress of Evil
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Posted : Sep 23, 2005 02:53
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It is a good topic and question, cause i did notice that in European parties i've been to there were never any altars. Whereas we create an altar for every party we make. Altars do not have to be religious in nature. They are an offering, a gift to the dancers. In my opinion they help to set the intention for the party. I personally like to have a ritual aspect included in events, or not just included in, but at the base of the event. The music we play is seriously mental, and often takes you on an intense trip. It is helpful to set the right intention, to create a safe psychedelic space. Altars, especially ones that everyone contributes to, are a beautiful way to accomplish this. Not to mention they are a beautiful focal point in front of the dj...They don't have to contain religious symbols at all... like at burning man we made altars for each of the elements- Fire, Earth, Air, Water and Spirit. It really helped maintain a sense of balance within our camp. Very important when the energy around you is so chaotic.
not sure if the link will work but you can see some examples of the element altars here: http://sanfrancisco.tribe.net/template/pub%2CViewPhoto.vm/context/tribe?currentoffset=37&parentid=4db968c2-3d01-43c0-b1b9-15d9e861eff2&sortby&rows&r=10535
peace!!!
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mubali
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Posted : Sep 23, 2005 03:08
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I am not sure how much people here are aware of that the intention with this scene when it started out (before it ever reached USA) was to keep it NON religious, free from symbols, free from racism and allow anyone inside no matter skin color, dresscode or sexual prefernces and only focus on the music that spoke to people across borders because it was universal.
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That actually brings up an interesting situation that occurred here in Northern California back in 2002. There was this one particular festival (The Fusion Festival) where the required permits were yanked at the last minute by authorities. And as such the event organizers had to pull something incredibly interesting to get the festival to even happen on the second day of the event. There are a lot of liberties awarded to churches here under the whole religous freedom thing. For the event to commence all attendants had to exit the property and sign a legal form stating that they were part of a church and it was part of our worship to listen to this music at a loud volume.
Now where I do agree that the music is supposed to transcend all boundries, I do have a slight question about the origins of the music as a whole. Would this music exist in its form if nobody had gone to India? Part of what the spirit behind this music and the culture to me means that you are indeed truly free to develop any sort of connection to the music and it's culture as you feel inclined to, while at the same time respecting other's views. I do agree that some of the imagery portrayed is quite heavy on eastern faith and imagery, but at the same time no one has touched upon the views of the people who create these altars... Perhaps the individuals who put their energy into these things have a strong belief in eastern faith. If we were to discount that and say that it has no place in this music or subculture, it would be the same as saying that a certain person who believes a certain thing has no place in the music or subculture. I do like the suggestion that was made about having partygoers contribute to the altar. I think that if everyone actually put their energy into something like that, everyone might understand that we are indeed all part of one giant thing and what we put in, we get back. So, of course you can have your statues of whatever you wish. Hell, I'd put a computer monitor on a table in front of the decks...
The main point that I've been trying to make is that all should be welcome in these events. Not just people or things that fit a particular mold. Once you start determining what is and what isn't supposed to be there that's when subdivisions get made and the spirit of the music and the people who love it get lost. I do feel that to an extent this is beginning to happen within the music, there's a lot of people that enjoy preaching what should and should not be and less of us enjoying it for what it is.
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Takuan"the pickled radish"
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Posted : Sep 23, 2005 16:51
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very true mubali peace my good friend |
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Takuan"the pickled radish"
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Posted : Sep 23, 2005 17:03
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For me it was a central altar a om symbol on kri's decks free chai poundin music and the feeling of being accepted for anything saved my life it was @ a T.O.U.C.H samadhi new years party 3 years ago and I have never looked back only to laugh @ how stupid I was . so altars are goodI wouldnt have noticed that I wasnt @ a rave party .i went for drugs and rave culture whatever that is? instead I walked away a new man so keep up the goodness however it gets done |
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thegooddale
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Posted : Sep 23, 2005 19:38
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On 2005-09-23 02:53, Mistress of Evil wrote:
like at burning man we made altars for each of the elements- Fire, Earth, Air, Water and Spirit. |
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did you guys combine there powers during the burn to form Captain Planet?  |
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Eklypz
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Posted : Sep 27, 2005 12:01
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I think that a good altar combines a lot of the symbols from every path and sacred geometry with a touch of the whimsical. The symbols, like it or not, have been infused with a certain energy over the centuries.
I actually liked the altar a lot from pow-wow (touch samadhi event last weekend in the USA). They had it off to the side so that it was there to focus on if you like or not. I found it comforting to have the intent and energy space there. The altar itself had all kinds of fun stuff on it too (not just things with religious intonations).
When I am at a psy event without an altar I always feel there is something missing. (for the record I am not religious but very spiritual also) |
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