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*Canceled Updown Festival - RAIZ - Portugal

DvP

Started Topics :  4
Posts :  84
Posted : Aug 5, 2005 13:47
Do you still listen to Darkpsy?

Isn't he the one who started by criticizing this ridiculous event, and when he finally got booked, suddenly it became the best festival in the world, with the best org. available in Portugal?

So you lost your cachet, so what? Some people invested all they had to have a shop in there. Their summer is ruined because UPDOWN was irresponsible.

Get a life, some dignity too and give us a break!

And since you are so well informed, why don't you tell us some things about what really hapenned and why Mr Agni Spark didn't show up yet?

ps: if you're gonna say anything about the licenses problem related to the two autarchies involved, save our time please! The organization of this so called "festival" (which is really turning into one) should have that problem fixed months before the event.
Charlie_RedSeal
Red Seal

Started Topics :  4
Posts :  7
Posted : Aug 5, 2005 14:00
Hey Justin! (Chaos), hope your doing ok bro, heard about it from Leo who said you were out there.
Give me a shout when you back.
peace
Charlie RS
High Pulse
Darkpsy

Started Topics :  57
Posts :  1187
Posted : Aug 6, 2005 06:14
hey my friend u are all missunderstanding one thing here , im not saying fuc'' u all and no money to anybody ...

im onloy saying is, that many ppl is fucked up , and ITS NORMAL , but until organizers say something , i think that ppl should wait before start killing everybody . im still waitinng aa answer , and leuname for me the money is missing a lot , need to pay rent , bills , food , etc etc , and i dont plaay 4 times per month , so i hope u get the point on view clearly now

rtake care all

boom ,

cant spend more time here , painting my home           "HIGH PULSE" AKA FUSION OF DARKPSY PROJECTS
http://www.myspace.com/highpulsemusic
http://www.beatbiz.net/artists/High-Pulse <- musiC FOR SELL.
Kabul
IsraTrance Junior Member

Started Topics :  14
Posts :  87
Posted : Aug 6, 2005 23:12
I don't know the real story, but i do know the Portuguese Picture trance scene!
I think this festival idea was crazy sinse the beggining!

I advice people to try to know WHO is organizing, and what have they done before!
Non experience party promotors can't achieve a goal like 11 day festival!

I think it was clear for me... it seems that for many people was not!

only three or four teamsn in Portugal, have concrete conditions to organize a 3 or 4 days fesrtival. Those are:

OMNI (boom team)
TRANCE KARMA (some ex-boom team members)
QUEST4GOA
and CRITAL MATRIX (this are more into comercial hardcore trance scene)

Also, most of the people in Portugal, in this time of the year are south of lisbon! So the location should be there... not north!

Hope, the organizers are ok. They must be passing an hard time!

best luck for the future!



jujix


Started Topics :  2
Posts :  18
Posted : Aug 7, 2005 01:54
Hello !!
At the first time , that i see the promotion of this festival, think to myself,this its impossible, than i see that a lot of people believe that its possible!!11 days of party, how much artists??how many people working ?? Sorry but this festival its a lie from the begining!!Boom festival will be 6 days , and they make some things a lot of time and in last days all people that work in the festival need an good couple of hours or one day to sleep , then begin with after boom party after 2 days , see the diference, they make partys at years!!!
Some artists are arriving in portugal , they don t have time to change fligths, so they are arrinving to lisbon!!try to call to organization in the last 4 days and they no answer to phone,but somewone are looking to phone , dont go to voice mail, call, call, call, no answer!!!I don t think that someone pay this bookings of artists!!!and the others things!!
In the last 2 days i have 2 artists at home , they don t have time to change flights and they have to be in anothers partys, so i know because they said to me this things!!!
Hope that Portugal continues with the bests partys!
Fredoom its true!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMM its true!!!!!!!!!!!
11 Days in party are a suberbe lie!!!!!!!!!!!!!
jujix


Started Topics :  2
Posts :  18
Posted : Aug 7, 2005 01:54
Hello !!
At the first time , that i see the promotion of this festival, think to myself,this its impossible, than i see that a lot of people believe that its possible!!11 days of party, how much artists??how many people working ?? Sorry but this festival its a lie from the begining!!Boom festival will be 6 days , and they make some things a lot of time and in last days all people that work in the festival need an good couple of hours or one day to sleep , then begin with after boom party after 2 days , see the diference, they make partys at years!!!
Some artists are arriving in portugal , they don t have time to change fligths, so they are arrinving to lisbon!!try to call to organization in the last 4 days and they no answer to phone,but somewone are looking to phone , dont go to voice mail, call, call, call, no answer!!!I don t think that someone pay this bookings of artists!!!and the others things!!
In the last 2 days i have 2 artists at home , they don t have time to change flights and they have to be in anothers partys, so i know because they said to me this things!!!
Hope that Portugal continues with the bests partys!
Fredoom its true!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMM its true!!!!!!!!!!!
11 Days in party are a suberbe lie!!!!!!!!!!!!!
darkfairy


Started Topics :  0
Posts :  41
Posted : Aug 7, 2005 04:06
reading this story....i cant avoid to wonder why ppl who r now writing here, didnt that before....expressing opinions and creating a LOYAL debate with ppl who promoted it wouldnt have been that bad....dont ya agree with me???
This story is a loss for the whole scene....loss of credibility..and loss of ppl moving for next festivals around the world....
DvP

Started Topics :  4
Posts :  84
Posted : Aug 8, 2005 13:06
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On 2005-08-07 04:06, darkfairy wrote:
reading this story....i cant avoid to wonder why ppl who r now writing here, didnt that before....



A lot of people warned about this in portuguese trance foruns, months before the festival. Just take a look at the link, if you understand portuguese there you have 17 pages of discussion regarding this festival, started at begining of March:

http://www.rptrance.org/rpt/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1471&FORUM_ID=2&CAT_ID=1&Topic_Title=29Julho+a+8Agosto&Forum_Title=Festas
ArSoX


Started Topics :  3
Posts :  133
Posted : Aug 8, 2005 13:48
DarkPsy, u are a shame for portugal trance scne like UpDown!

Before, u said bad things about this festival, and after being booked you changed and started suporting the festival!!

U really dont know nothing dude!! I went to the place and i talk with ppl.. i know things that u dont know!... and, stop being stupid man! Defending something that u dont know!!

Why u do that? I really dont seen u booked to many parties.. but do u need that??Get some shame and STOP LIKING BOOTS!!Dont be a b***h..it's bad for you to be doing that...do you need that to be booked??shame on u and updown!
          DJ ArSoX (Good Trance / Karkeija Crew)
VJ-Psilocybe


Started Topics :  0
Posts :  27
Posted : Aug 8, 2005 14:01
I went there.
Yes it was a disappointment, but I didn't see any angry people.
People moved on to some other parties, beaches, shanti time.
It is a shame things didn't work out, but I'm sure there was a good reason for it - even if the reason was the organisers tried to do something too big they failed - at least they tried.
It would be nice to hear the 'official' reason for things turning out the way they did, but in the mean time, I'll carry on having fun.
Love and Hugs, Psilocybe xxx
darkfairy


Started Topics :  0
Posts :  41
Posted : Aug 8, 2005 14:15
Quote:

On 2005-08-08 13:06, DvP wrote:

A lot of people warned about this in portuguese trance foruns, months before the festival. Just take a look at the link, if you understand portuguese there you have 17 pages of discussion regarding this festival, started at begining of March:

http://www.rptrance.org/rpt/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1471&FORUM_ID=2&CAT_ID=1&Topic_Title=29Julho+a+8Agosto&Forum_Title=Festas



i trust your word mate, but my portuguese is not good enough to understand the whole thread on that portuguese forum...thx for the link anyway
VJ-Psilocybe


Started Topics :  0
Posts :  27
Posted : Aug 8, 2005 14:30
If there was 17 pages on that forum, then why on earth did that discussion not reach here or other psy forums where the vast majority of people who went would have had a chance to read???
Don't flame me for saying this, but sometime the Portuguese people confuse me - on one hand we have Diogo and the BOOM crew, all fantastic lovely people; on the other hand we have the snidey little.... well.... I daren't say what I want to....
You know what I mean
DvP

Started Topics :  4
Posts :  84
Posted : Aug 8, 2005 16:53
Well, since the Portuguese section of this forum was closed, the majority of the portuguese trancers went back to the portuguese foruns and quit this one.
But if you read this 19 pages carefully, you'll find some advises. When they released the flyer, if you have checked some web pages of some of the bands confirmed on the line-up , you would have noticed that something was going very wrong.

Personally speaking I would never go to a festival in another country with this picture and this kind of references regarding the organization.

Portugal is not the Trance Paradise it used to be anymore. And things can only get worse...
[3pi]


Started Topics :  5
Posts :  18
Posted : Aug 8, 2005 17:44
i was not going to say anything because nothing can justify waht happened..but,
many pepole talks about Updown "intention" with this festival, and i can only say they were the best, unfortunably things didn´t go well.
I dont know all the reasons but i think Updown will give some responses soon and they will try to compensate pepole that lost their money.
The main reason i´m posting now it´s because the number of post that is groing every day, i think is funny that pepole always have something to say when things go wrong, but never got some support to give when someone try to do something diferent. If all this posts were to support the festival (before it happens) maybe things had been diferent...

realmente é muito fácil criticar e deitar abaixo

Xamanist
Xamanist

Started Topics :  49
Posts :  938
Posted : Aug 8, 2005 17:49
Quote:


best best best... the word that is killing this scene..




wise wise words fellow trancer
beware of the BEaSTs!
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