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can we all get along and do some multi-styled lineups that unify the trance scene already!??!?
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obu
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Posted : May 5, 2005 02:57
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When I first started partying, this is the way it was... Night time was reserved for night time music, which would flow into some great psy-morning, into the full on morning. You can really appreciate the power of all types of music if it is laid out properly and also the intent of the producer, both beautiful things. I've always found it a bit dull to have only nighttime parties or only full on parties. Variety is the spice of life and is also common in trance, we should embrace such things.
Its a great idea Aaron, it would be killer to see it carried out. |
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*Karma Cola*
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Posted : May 5, 2005 04:52
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On 2005-05-05 02:32, BrettFromTibet wrote:
Nothing against people who like dark trance, other than a seemingly collective dominant/millitant intention of the 'dark crowd' to hijack any last possible remnant of GOA / morning sound TOTALLY out of the lineup, and piss all over it.
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I see that happenin everywhere.
For NYE i was in London at the big party with Broken Toy and Man with no name.. etc..
It got a little silly when i cud overhear ppl coparing the styles and cribbing about the time slots , while they were on the floor. !!
Plus, they kinda bullshitted about the mornin VS nite whle thingy .
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BrettFromTibet
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Posted : May 5, 2005 08:18
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Most of all, I just wanted to say that I really *like* you guys...
To those of you in this dialouge i've met in person or seen spin: GregOnEarth, Mist, Offthenutboom, Mubali, Ocelot, Obu, Psunspot, Aeon, Fractal Cowboys, M.o.E. girls..
You all stuck out as super nice people on a mission to illuminate. The bottom line is that we are people that have a LOT IN COMMON - common passions and shadow sides - much more alike than 99% the people we meet on the street or work with. It would be great to feel that feeling of community once again!
I would love to sit around a campfire with
any of you guys anyday! (But not necessarily hear the absolute craziest shit in your case, all night).
I have a very specific taste in downtempo, but I don't consider my taste in trance to be particularly extreme. In the whole range of trance trxtures... ranging from the mythical Fluffy Whipped(tm) Cheese Spray to Psytanic Death Trance - you'd find me left of center and leaning towards the darker, meaner side of full-on. A relatively menacing Talamasca live (starting off with sharks teeth at 3am, and finishing with a edgy-with-a-twinkle twilight DJ set around 6am) set i saw at Rainbow Serpent, sticks out as a personal ideal.
and i could even get excited about well-done psycho killer that makes people scream, if it is not over played - and followed by something a little different -and it seems to be going *somewhere* rather than an usetteling abyss.
I hope the extremists in the trance camps can find some kind of middle sound ... that both you and I can dance to and enjoy. it would be WAY more fun for everyone.
I swear I am not that hard to please.
as Ocelot wisely said: if only people would accept some shades of the sound spectrum that they don't like.. in order to allow the whole picture to be painted.
p.s. Speaking of good flow charts... Bodhi's lineup for the muddy San Diego party looked pretty dope to me.
p.s.s. Don't try and sell me on Neuromotor "morning" marathons! |
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Posted : May 5, 2005 11:38
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o.k. so "unified visions" is on the right track in that it is joining the energies of la and sf in one party. however, bodhi is the only 'nightime' artist on the lineup. I would love to see more of a mix and in a location that is half way between the 2 cities..... this would be beautiful.
yeah truth is, these days people in our 'community' are so divided...which is why we're having these parties with all the djs on the lineup into the same exact style, playing the same music. Lets mix it up! isn't that the point?
as for me, i love really layered psychedelic trance....whether it's melodic with a funky bassline or having absolutely no melodies, and a 2 note bassline....if it moves me, I love it !  |
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offthenutboom
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Posted : May 5, 2005 21:31
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I have always advocated for full lineups. In the sense, that different DJs or performers create a slow acceleration from slower-deep grooves music in late afternoon, to progressive, to night full on, Full night time madness, morning music with power for sunrise and a slowdown as the day progresses... to a moment of dub and chill and slow chill trance for the afternoon. For me it conveys a sense of journey. As long as the producer or DJ keeps the dancefloor and excitement alive I will be dancing. This is my personal opinion and the way I like to setup lineups. I have been in certain situations when i had to fight to set DJs in the right places. Some ppl have wanted me to start a party for e.g. to which I replied: "Are you nuts, I will just end up banging them square  " SO corrections were made and the party flowed perfectly. Every music and personality has its time within an event.
Also I get a lot of "you are playing too hard" and the punk in me ends up playing harder, and ppl love it I think our events are all in the details, piecing the puzzle in journey in harmony with the enviroment we are in. |
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David(KIVA)
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Posted : May 5, 2005 21:51
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@ jyoty
You cant have your pie and eat it too.
If that is what you want then save 15,000 or more and throw your own party.
I think a point has not been made in this disscussion. Throwing a party cost alot of money. So if you have the money you make the choice of who is going to play. And like Mubali said this is somewhat political. What the promoter wants the promoter gets and then that is passed down onto the crowd. When have you heard of a promoter who asked the people "hey can you guys make my line up?" The other thing is artists can be on the other side of the world and bringing them to your city can cost some money (promoters who have paid ridiculous air fares can agree with me on this). ok ok so we can share the booking to save the cost RIGHT? no. your date is June, my date is december so then what. Im not saying that sharing is not effective but how often does it work for everyone? My point is to do a multi colored event with all styles it has to have some money thrown at it to please everyone and lets face it where not rolling in it.
What is possible is this. Like at Unified Visions you can get at the very least a dark artist and then you should be thankful that you were able to enjoy what you liked and stay pleased after the party and tell your friends how cool it was to listen to what you liked and everything else. What Im afraid of is that promoters will execise the idea and people will still bitch and moan that it wasnt enough.
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mubali
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Posted : May 5, 2005 22:03
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People are going to bitch and moan no matter what... The saying holds true that you can't please everybody. The only thing that you can hope to do is stick to your vision and hope that others share that vision. Politics is a mofo, but throwing a party is incredibly expensive (just plane tix for an artist alone can cost a pretty penny)
And on the other hand... it's not the last party that will ever happen nor is it the first....
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rich
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Posted : May 5, 2005 22:06
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Just a thought...
That all being said and I'm glad everyone's in agreement and I'm sure these are the parties most of us would prefer, there will still be those handful of folks who WILL want it intense and hard from start to finish, AND those who want it simple and soft from start to finish. (or what may be perceived as such)
Let them have those parties. No criticism, 'suggestions' or chastising, right?
Cos what you may see happen is more of these parties submerging below the radar, avoiding the beatings on public forums and flippin the bird on all y'all, keeping their shit underground.
for all I know it's already happening
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paradigm
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Posted : May 5, 2005 22:26
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It bothers me that people jump to conclusions about my party, that obviously have no clue what they are talking about. Many of the dj's playing are talented to the point that they can go any direction based on the time of their set.
Do any of you somehow know what, my unrelesed line up is ?
I sure hope not, otherwise my other personality is spilling the beans j/k
Seriously dont assume something, based on not having any info on it what=so=ever
Bodhi= nightime (dark/hard heavy sounds)
Random= nighttime (tweeky random psychedelic, S/A style)
Shawnodese = nighttime (dont forget used to help run Inpysde media,
plus also alot of the 3dv / Ketuh / Timecode sound will be played, which is very night time.
see, now ive gone and said too much. Know i have to kill you all the preserve the sanctity of my lineup agenda lol
there is a such thing as hard full on, that goes in the night time.. Just beacuse it has a dominant lead synth, or god forbid a groovy bassline doesnt automatically mean its morning music. Acts that fits this include the above mentiond 3dv guys plus most South Africans like Shift and Phyx.
That stuff is way too noisy and disjointed for a smooth morning, but perfect for night, turning light
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mubali
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Posted : May 5, 2005 22:41
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If there's gonna be some Ketuh played, I hope to hear some stuff off of In Crypto!!! That comp is badass!
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David(KIVA)
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Posted : May 5, 2005 22:48
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My rant about Unified visions was not an assumption just an answer to jyoty's post. My point was be happy with what you get. Im sure you have it all under control paradigm. =)
hope everythings is clear about that. ok? ok ok.
good luck with it MANG.
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paradigm
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Posted : May 5, 2005 23:06
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wasnt directed at you David, no worries |
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Maska
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Posted : May 5, 2005 23:25
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politics ruin everything that is pure.
assumption is the mother of all fuckups. |
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Psycosmo
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Posted : May 5, 2005 23:28
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What about having multiple areas??? Tomorrow the party is going to have Atomic Pulse and TDC mafia in 1 room and progressive trance in the other... That way people will be able to go back and forth at will. Hopefully people wont be to partisan and will actually visit their friends in the other room. We'll see.. |
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