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Azax Syndrom - Cause of death !!!

Acidhive
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Posted : Jun 24, 2004 18:06
Ok Yuli, we're clear. Your points are noted. I have to agree you don't want the 666 vibes in psytrance. I don't want them here either. But I still think there's nothing wrong with some good dark psy, as long as the music doesn't call upon worshipping the devil or anything, because that's something that should never happen in psytrance

Let's keep it to this: To each his/her own and let's hope psytrance stays the way it is and doesn't evolve a subculture like Black Psy or something (like Black Metal)           "Subconscious unravels at the point of death, and all time it has known erupts into a moment. As death extinguishes us, so we become it."

[Esoteric: Subconscious Dissolution Into The Continuum]
Yuli
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Posted : Jun 24, 2004 18:11
agreed and signed           A man with a "master plan" is often a woman
Morbidelic
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Posted : Jun 24, 2004 19:11
Yuli Is Right

Dark Psytrance Have a Importent Part But we Need to know how to use him.

and not come to party and seeing in 7-8 morning when the sun come on this kiind of artists..


this is my taste for sure,
but all music with her vibes time and spirit

u can see know this days we got dj's that playing in the night some astrix,psycraft,gms etc.. etc what u thinking about this ?


the point that i wnat to give in my post...

mr.dj: make your set for the right time and moment (and not beacuse your killer azax music will play in the morning or your kicking gms and astrix in the night and shiit like this.


keep it real people ...
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Scrambled Headz
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Posted : Jun 24, 2004 20:56
Quote:

On 2004-06-24 16:55, a3k wrote:
thix kind of sounds, brings us confusion and a lot of feelings that are typical @ night....i think @ a party the time of playin thix tunes are @ night...but nothing wrong with thix...trance is not all about beautifull melodies and stuff like thix....
i like beautifull melodies, but thix sounds are very crazy..very strong, 2 assimilate them...but i see they can get their point....confusion and desorientation @ night, and @ day beautifull melodies...
is like comin from your fears @ night...and get rid of them @ day...is like a liberation....
i like it is very cool! (and remember...it´s a matter of taste!):good:



I totally i agree with you man!!#
And for Yuli-blt i think that you man are a bit jelous and slightly 'worried'...
Azax tracks are real killers !!
I hate this full on type of guys....'a dark tracks are shit...a dark tacks are not good...a dark djs are not good...'
Ahell with you...!!
and something else..Azax is getting better and more powerfull in every track!!
Can wait for his set in BOOM (or maybe live)!!
we shall see...           : Panaiz *25 Motorbrain :
PSYPRUS MADNESS_OUT NOW !
spliffnik
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Posted : Jun 28, 2004 16:17
I don't get people saying dark is trendy, all parties play nothing but dark, we need to balance it out because there is too much dark, etc etc. Isn't there much much more fluffy full on in the scene than the other way around? Just look at the biggest festivals and parties and labels- I think we need more music that is not full-on. THAT is the stuff for kids- simple remixes of famous trax everyone recognizes, predictables breaks, and the same patterns over and over... Well at least this is the case in Japan- the biggest rock concert parties feature kids on all kinds of drugs jumping and screaming to Skazi or whatever, never ever in a state of trance, while the people who actually understand the essense of the music avoid this..

Now I have said this- I also want to hear what people say- I like darker stuff too, but I agree do we need samples like 'the child was lying face-down in a pool of blood..'. It doesn't need this kind of sample to make a track dark! Why you think such samples are used? What do you see is possibly good about this?

or maybe I missed the point and it is just a joke people are taking too seriously.

-bOOm-
spliffnik
Acidhive
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Posted : Jun 28, 2004 16:32
The reason those samples are used : because they come from dark movies or television series. Most of us know a few movies and series, and hence know that the atmosphere in that movie or television series is dark. And you know samples set an atmosphere in a track, in this case a darker one. So, the makers probably think, hey, if we put sample X in this from movie Y, people will know we want to create a dark, horror-like atmosphere. Those are my thoughts anyway.

Anyway, I agree you don't need samples to make a track dark and brooding. Listen to Eargear's 'Multibandkomposter' for a taste of dark...
          "Subconscious unravels at the point of death, and all time it has known erupts into a moment. As death extinguishes us, so we become it."

[Esoteric: Subconscious Dissolution Into The Continuum]
spliffnik
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Posted : Jun 28, 2004 16:46
thanks acidhive, I didn't know many were samples from old shows and movies (should have tho). I guess that can be one way of setting atmosphere like you said, although it is not always necessary. A good point you mention.


cosmo
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Posted : Jul 1, 2004 11:54
hi dudes hmmm ja nice nice but plees
start to use sam new idiers plees


you have all my suport

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psychild
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Posted : Jul 1, 2004 14:08
Quote:

On 2004-06-28 16:32, Acidhive wrote:
Listen to Eargear's 'Multibandkomposter' for a taste of dark...



Oh yeah! This is my kind of dark music. I guess I agree with the aproach that we need the dark side in our music, but it has to be in good taste. There has always been night music and there has always music with a dark atmosphere. Someimes you need to get in touch with your dark side. There are times at a party when you want to bring out some anger, let off some steam and just dig very hard. BUT! It doesn't have to be senseless pounding music.

Before all this "dark" music that's coming out today that (just sounds like another form of full on to me) there was stuff like Delta's Schiszoeffective album (sorry for the spelling). Just one look at the cover made you think "there's some dark and heavy emotions in here". Or how about Opsis or EarGear or 3.Turn. X-dream also know how to create a heavy atmosphere in they're tracks. But when people start talking about dark music and under that mean all this bloodgoredeath 150 bpm pounding I just don't get them. I mean don't get me wrong it can be fast, nothing wrong with that, but it has to be in good taste and create the right atmosphere. And ofcourse this is not the sole purpose of psy music. You need some dark and some sad things, but you gotta balance it out.

My 2cents...i'm out..           "Just as every skill is strengthened by practice, so is every bad habit made worse by repetition."
Psilocibino
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Posted : Jul 1, 2004 16:22
Yuli said....
"Trance is not about evil and never was and never will be. It is about celebrating the nature and the good in ppl, in uniting the tribe and smiling in the morning - it is not about amphetamine pumped up to the bone 16 year old kids with white faces that make bets who takes more pills in one time. "

no need to say more...

..about the dark tracks, it's all music and it all depends what's your felling when you listen to it..you may be happy, you may be sad, you may be angry, it's all in you! a dark track can be so beautifull and a melody track can be so sad!... Life, death, hapiness, sadness, laughs, tears, good and bad vibes, let your mind go.....IT'S TRANCE!!!

Biotouch (dj Loko)
Biotouch

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Posted : Jul 1, 2004 16:52
hum one thing you can have nigth music but psychedelic.. the sounds that make you close your eyes and travel until the sun show up.. not that crap darck music with alot of sounds bad produced with no sence.. everione with cubase can do darck twisted music.. put lots off drugs you can be one off them..lololol
in other hand there are some pop trance that do easy music.. the melows are easy to like... but not psychedelic at all anyway..
and other thing is that this days enjoyng darck music is fashion.. because who likes morning are people that have lots off smiles on their faces they like to have fun... so we have to be darck.. darck smiles.. be diferent.. kids grow up.. the thing here is psychedelic music.. not noise...not too cheesy... its about psycho-acustic... do you know what is psycho-acustic? every producer should study about it...           Hatha yoga, body and mind balanced...

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EYB
Noized

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Posted : Jul 1, 2004 17:03
Yuli said....
"Trance is not about evil and never was and never will be. It is about celebrating the nature and the good in ppl, in uniting the tribe and smiling in the mornin"

Wrong, it is today

And i am happy it is evil. I hate if in the mornig the dj beginns the play the nerving 'we all wanna be happy (because we took drugs)' stuff.

But i cellebrate life and nature and i am a nice and good person. That will not change coz i like to listen dark and evil style.            Signature
EYB
Noized

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Posted : Jul 1, 2004 17:06
One thing to add:

WE NEED LOT OF MORE MORE EVILISHER TRANCE

and check out

VA _ Deliver us from evil

Great sampler!            Signature
shahar
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Posted : Jul 1, 2004 17:42
If there's a surge of evil music and its popularity it just means that there are a lot of evil feelings around the people who listen and make this music.

It's all energies...

I do think that using horror samples (much like drug samples) is kinda shallow. I would appreciate more people who can create a dark atmosphere through their music, or deeper lyrics.

Though, myself, I like more music that transforms those negative/dark/evil energies into lighter happy ones.           ---------------------------------------------
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Nomolos(Zenon Rec.)
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Posted : Jul 1, 2004 18:25
nothing like cordenation with our soroundings.....
if the party is in an abandond steal factory i would feel a stronger impact with some DARK industrial psy(not neccerly 'evil' tunes).
if its in a green field in Wales with fluffy white rabbits running all over the place i think some uplifting morning tunes will do the trick(hat and rabbit one).
if your stuck in Buffalo Bill's bassment and u happen to have the 1-800-savemedj number i would think max' impact would be to ask your DJ to spinn some man eating Evil Psy.....
the name of the game is adapting to the circumstanses to create max' impact!
cheers.
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