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Azax Syndrom - Cause of death !!!

Surrender
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Posted : Jun 24, 2004 03:59

Quote:

On 2004-06-23 16:18, Acidhive wrote:
Hehehe... Another one that can't take the darker side... Go on, run off to mommy!!
To the dark producers: Bring it on!!




i can take it fine thank you, i dont see the point though. i got over the "darker side" when i was 12, along with "he-man" and "hide and seek".
To the quality producers: Bring it on!!          "On the other hand, you have different fingers."
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Yuli
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Posted : Jun 24, 2004 04:23
I am truly sorry for those that gonna take a piss of what I gonna say but here it goes after the following quote:

Quote:
Hehehe... Another one that can't take the darker side... Go on, run off to mommy!!
To the dark producers: Bring it on!!



Trance was never about evil music. It was never about satanism and as Surrender said I passed this foolish and stupid passion for friday the 13 and Freddie Krueger when I was around my Bar Mizvah.

To the one who wrote the sample I took from Surrender's post - it looks to me that physically speaking I can be your Daddy since this sentence has equal wisdom for someone in highschool at best.

Trance is not about evil and never was and never will be. It is about celebrating the nature and the good in ppl, in uniting the tribe and smiling in the morning - it is not about amphetamine pumped up to the bone 16 year old kids with white faces that make bets who takes more pills in one time.           A man with a "master plan" is often a woman
Yuli
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Posted : Jun 24, 2004 04:31
and one more thing

As a DJ I can say for sure there is place for evil tracks in the set since it is one of the emotions and sure it can be played at nite in a party.

But when I see parties with a whole line up of such music among many feelings that I have is one of pity.

I pity those that without knowing going for the evil and bad and dark, and have fun at it and don't give much attention for what they do. Cuz it is much more than you suspect it to be - to your own soul and to your surroundings. There is enough evil and horror in this world without making a party that celebrates that.

nuff said
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MadScientist
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Posted : Jun 24, 2004 06:13
couldn't say it better yuli...

I'm not much older than the guys you re talking about, but I'm in this scene for several years now and I have seen how it was before all azax, para halu & the crew...

trance was never about evil & fear...and when I hear ppl get tortured in trx, screaming of pain, puking, etc. I really get to think of where this scene has gone to...
not that I have something against dark psychedelic music...I like it a lot...things like sandman, neuron compost, psykovsky...that's really psychedelic, but not with this touch of ppl getting hurt or killed or anything plzzz!!!

and like yuli also said...it's all about the ying & yang...the right ballance of light & dark...

my 2 cents...
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kowens
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Posted : Jun 24, 2004 09:08
why is this turning into a thread about stylisic taste??? the person who started this just likes Azax Syndrom, so do a lot of others, some dont...who cares though??
Yuli
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Posted : Jun 24, 2004 12:34
Kowens,

No dispute about style... I think there are many evil tracks done very well and there is no doubt that those that make them know what they do very well.

I talk about the 666 thing itself. There are many kids ( not only kids actually ) that drawn towards the dark side, and there is more than enough dark side in any case, so why? and more over - if you already there... why talk about it?? Because it makes u cool ???

That is why I ask - no problems with styles mate
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Indra


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Posted : Jun 24, 2004 14:24
Yes azax is a cause of death..i agree..this style of nightsound is the bestto put out our worst and evil's fears in a dance floor..and than...zang!!!!but the trance isn't this?accelareted bpm's at night and great melodies after?with artists like azax at night isn't good for us and for what we feel?           "Dance like nobody's watching; love like you've never been hurt. Sing like nobody's listening; live like it's heaven on earth."
N0MEX
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Posted : Jun 24, 2004 15:38
para halu - bug in your mind!
verry digging music,,,,, Homen & Pondesz ur are great
Acidhive
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Posted : Jun 24, 2004 16:20
Yuli, I am a 26 year old person, but does that mean I have to "grow" out of my darker side? I still watch horror movies, because I enjoy the atmosphere in them. It's YOU who should grow up Yuli, since you obviously don't know that every person in the world has a bit of a darker side to them. I let my darker side come out every now and then while watching horror movies, reading horror novels or listening to these darker tracks. When you live with blindfolds on, like you obviously do, then you never let your darker side out. That's bad for you and it'll show (eventually)

And what about the dark side anyway? Dark music can be good! Azax Syndrome makes some kicking tracks in my opinion. Music can be as bad in the fluffy style as it is in the darker style. Take Alien Project, he makes full-on with a lighter side to it, but his music hasn't evolved at all. Azax Syndrome for example makes some kicking dark tracks nowadays, and while he is not very original, he just makes good stuff. Both sides have bad and good tracks!

And about the horror and darker samples: It has been a part of this scene longer than you think. Way back in 1997 Xenomorph made tracks like Obscure Spectre, which had horror samples and a dark atmosphere. His Cassandra's Nightmare album was more tracks of that style. And what about some tracks by Tim Schuldt? His Midnight Sunrise track under his guise: Mono Substance wasn't really fluffy either, was it? (With the screaming in it) So stop moaning and bitching about darker stuff destroying the scene! It's just a part of it, and you can ignore it if you want. I've embraced it because I like the diversity, and letting my darker side some space... You should do the same ... And one more thing: People that do bad things because they listen to darker music have weak minds!! That doesn't mean EVERYONE who listens to dark music has a weak mind though...
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The Journey Man Project
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Posted : Jun 24, 2004 16:40
tsk Acidhive... if you bothered to read what he said, it's not that there shouldn't be any dark trance, just that it should be more equaled out, have some night trance and have some lighter trance as welll. and I thinkg if anybody would know about dark and light here it would be Yuli who has studied Chinese Medicine... read quotes properly and know some facts before you speak crapola!
a3k
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Posted : Jun 24, 2004 16:55
thix kind of sounds, brings us confusion and a lot of feelings that are typical @ night....i think @ a party the time of playin thix tunes are @ night...but nothing wrong with thix...trance is not all about beautifull melodies and stuff like thix....
i like beautifull melodies, but thix sounds are very crazy..very strong, 2 assimilate them...but i see they can get their point....confusion and desorientation @ night, and @ day beautifull melodies...
is like comin from your fears @ night...and get rid of them @ day...is like a liberation....
i like it is very cool! (and remember...it´s a matter of taste!):good:           ...
Acidhive
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Posted : Jun 24, 2004 17:15
Oh yeah, wake up and smell the coffee! Drugs has always been a part of this scene. I'm not into the party scene at all, but I doubt if the druguse has been severely upped by the darker style. And, as I said before, the darker style has always been around.           "Subconscious unravels at the point of death, and all time it has known erupts into a moment. As death extinguishes us, so we become it."

[Esoteric: Subconscious Dissolution Into The Continuum]
Noise Poison Records
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Posted : Jun 24, 2004 17:47
oh dear.....a fight again seem to start here.....for what ?

I agree with Yuli, nearly every word.....also with Acidhive....mostly.......

peace and think twice...I should do also sometimes
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Insomniac
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Posted : Jun 24, 2004 17:57
I agree with Yuli 100%, IMO kids now a days are getting in the scene becuase the evil 666 bullshit (they find it cool) or drugs, and they are forgetting what the psytrance scene is really about.
Yuli
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Posted : Jun 24, 2004 18:01
Acidhive, to start with I will quote myself from this very thread few posts above:

Quote:
As a DJ I can say for sure there is place for evil tracks in the set since it is one of the emotions and sure it can be played at nite in a party.



From this quote I can easily understand that u didn't really read my reply, but if u will read it now, it might answer to half of your post with the help of following quote of mine from the place I took the first:

Quote:
But when I see parties with a whole line up of such music among many feelings that I have is one of pity.



And there are many parties like this today, even 09:00 in the morning and still drilling.

Before I continue there is a place to say that I have nothing against Azax Syndrome and I think they make their art as they wish and as a DJ I can choose if to play the tracks or not. But as a concept I am against satanic parties or 666 vibes in the trance scene since it is a little more extreme then just dark... Don't u agree?

About Monosubstance and such - Yeah man, I like their stuff and they made killer dark vibe music.. I don't remember I heard them vomiting in their tracks, used kill them all samples or dying ppl screams. If I would, I guess I wouldn't like it that much.
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