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Gopendragon
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Posted : Feb 12, 2006 08:40
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On 2006-02-06 20:21, psycoactive psybeing wrote:
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And i do the same, n ask sincerely from u all to do the same, when u sit for sadhana or prayers, in ur mediatation ask for wellbeing n prosperity of people around in whole n sincerety, i know it will work.
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great post psycoactive psybeing,I read it more then once!!!enjoy reading it!!!
about the last paragraph(quote),this is something that we forget as we act for our own personal liberation,here comes what we call in spirituality the basic part of "suicide"(die,reborn,suicide of our inner)
and that is also the same thing that said in christianity"every christian have to carry his cross".
But till you reach the level of "suicide" to help other people with the way you mentioned,first you have to help and save your own self,then if you can stand up and start going upwards you are ready and able to give a hand to others and help them to stand up...to attain liberation you have to get emanicipation first by awakening conciousnes ... enligthment...liberation...final goal merge with with the supreme entity,sooo many much different elevated levels we have to reach,one after the other...upwards higher and higher...
  ~~~~~~~namaskar~~~~~~~~~
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psycoactive psybeing
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Posted : Feb 12, 2006 13:22
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@ gopendra - by being selfless ones mind purifies n its very important. Jesus showed the world that, how selflessly he lead his life, n helped people with his spritual energies for upliftment of the weak n poor. So a true christian is he who follows the noble examples of his master or prophet.
Man is constituted of three things, body, mind n soul. Body represents gross nature, mind subtle nature and soul causal nature. Human mind is most restive and never remains calm. It constantly originates multifarious thoughts causing joy n sorrow.
The entire creation both "MAYA" [mental creation]n "CHAYA" [physical creation] is in fact the creation of the human mind. Untill one does not go beyond the mental region, one cannot attain freedom from the duality of joy r sorrow, good r bad, sin r virtue, happiness r grief.
Now the quest is how to attain mental tranquility? In my view the company of a realised man, who himself has won over his mind is indispensable. His company n words can work wonder for u provided u have faith in him. From his company u can to a great extent free yourself from wrong notions, bad thoughts n destructive impressions. As ur practical life is a byproduct of ur mental creation, the purity of thought n mind r foremost necessity for a happy n peaceful living.
Untill a man realises the truth n attains true knowledge, he may enjoy temperory ANAND[bliss]from the company of the saint. If satsang[comapany of a realised man] gives only temperory Anand n not the supreme Anand or bliss, what is the solution to attain mental purity, true knowledge n supreme bliss?
I think its solution is inward practice[sadhna] One should practice sadhana n attain that state where the thoughts n cravings originate.
That state is known as the place of Bindoo[zero] or AUM or thoughtlesness, Mahasunna or the tenth door. Even at this stage mind generates evil or good thoughts, but here a man can subdue his mind if he so desires. So at this mental state, application of the maxim "only truth wins" is the complete surrender of the mind to the GURU n follow his dictates with strong determination.
The word of the GURU merges the mind of a "TRUE" Aspirant into the ocean of thoughtlessness. It is correct that all religious books such as Gita, Quran, Bible have laid down principles to attain this state for mankind.
But they r not applicable to all every individual. Every individual has his own nature according to his previous deeds, his present circumstances n external influences on his mind. Only a living Guru can help n understand what particular path would be usefel n beneficial to a particular individual for making his life blissful n happy.
Only the Guru knows what a particular thought a particular man should entertain in his Mind after having after having the experience of thoughtlessness[nirvikalpa] by attaining this stage the aspirants mind becomes tranquil. And if he practices sadhana without any aim, he will fall miserably n commit blunders due to external influences of his surrounding. SADHANA IS NOT AN END IN ITSELF, it is a mean to attain ultimate peace, bliss, solace n the knowledge of the self.
Those who do not undertake sadhana with n aim of self-reealisation face a miserable downfall sooner or later. He who meditates at the centre of AUM must make further efforts to attain this state of thoughtlessness. Obedience to the guru is most imprtant if one needs to gain anything.
IN THE END ALWAYS REMEMBER TRUTH ALWAYS WINS
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Dogon
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Posted : Feb 12, 2006 13:26
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On 2006-02-06 20:21, psycoactive psybeing wrote:
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And i do the same, n ask sincerely from u all to do the same, when u sit for sadhana or prayers, in ur mediatation ask for wellbeing n prosperity of people around in whole n sincerety, i know it will work.
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great post psycoactive psybeing,I read it more then once!!!enjoy reading it!!!
about the last paragraph(quote),this is something that we forget as we act for our own personal liberation,here comes what we call in spirituality the basic part of "suicide"(die,reborn,suicide of our inner)
and that is also the same thing that said in christianity"every christian have to carry his cross".
But till you reach the level of "suicide" to help other people with the way you mentioned,first you have to help and save your own self,then if you can stand up and start going upwards you are ready and able to give a hand to others and help them to stand up...to attain liberation you have to get emanicipation first by awakening conciousnes ... enligthment...liberation...final goal merge with with the supreme entity,sooo many much different elevated levels we have to reach,one after the other...upwards higher and higher...
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@ psycoactive psybeing: Nice read...... a lot of things said....
@ Gopendra: Agree with you, thats what the key is that we have to liberate ourself & only then we will be able to heal the world. This would not mean 'Literally' that Me, You, Sorceress, psycoactive psybeing, h2so4 or anyone individually can do a miracle of saving the humanity BUT once we all start towards the path of liberating ourselves, that would lead to Self Consiouness & further iw would lead to COLLECTIVE CONSIOUSNESS, if we all create this state conciously together.
It's the same process as the 'negative' (as called) grew because of Collective Unconciousness (my vocabulary  ) so it's just that the direction needs to be towards the healing of the self & hence the world, if done collectively.
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acidity
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Posted : Feb 14, 2006 16:58
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Just thought of these lines:
"Self" which dwells in each and every being in this universe is one and the same with Godhead. Every soul in this uinverse is a reflection of this Supreme Self. Thus every individual has the potential to realize Godhead by the realization of this "Self".
Realization of the "Self" is possible only when someone is free to think on his/her own and act accordingly. The most heinous and barbaric crime in this world would be to stop an individual to think freely.
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Gopendragon
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Posted : Feb 14, 2006 22:10
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before meditation thought waves in mind is like a wild ocean with strong wind....after meditation is like that wild sea had became like a calm lake...
when the water is calm everything is reflected like a mirror up on the surface,and on that time we see the reflection of our inner self more clear...
Buddha said about emptyness,an empty mind ,no any kind of thoughts inside...
recently I saw a video with Lama Sifu,the master of tai-chi,that man have such as powerfull occult powers, he was able to push and send metres away those who tryied to beat him without even touch them...strong magic tricks,nobody can touch him if he dont want it,so weird eh,make fell scarry.
Do you trust someone with such an occult powers for a master?
~~~~~~~namaskar~~~~~~~~~
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acidity
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Posted : Feb 15, 2006 07:11
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Indeed. The book "Autobiography of a Yogi" is full of such examples.
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jabba
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Posted : Feb 15, 2006 07:39
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Indeed. The book "Autobiography of a Yogi" is full of such examples.
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when the mind is free from "mistrust" any form of magic is possible 
To focus sometimes you need to spin hard on your soul's axis..... just don't ask how and what it means ;) |
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psycoactive psybeing
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Posted : Feb 15, 2006 15:41
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@ Gopendra - Magical powers or energies, are nothing else but manifestations of thought n will power. When one meditates n controls the mind will power increases, its become very powerful, its known as siddhi in hindi, a person with these powers is know as a siddha purush.
When one becomes selfless, n loses ego ,nature bestows these special powers to them to help humanity n needy, coz the medium is not using it in negative use, as its with harmony with the plan of divine n nature. A person who performs these miracles, will never take credit of these miracles, if he is a true saint, n never make it a show business, coz its not to show off, its to help n guide deserving souls.
In the path of spritualty, aspirants come across these powers{siddhi shakti} which also proves fatal for the weak n source of attachment in future, as they get totally engrossed with it n forget the ultimate path of self realisation n liberation. So a true saint will always advice aspirants to always aim higher n not get attached to these powers.
I will tell u a fact, my guru visited US many years back, n he had to give a discourse there, on the day prior to the discourse, organisers there had given his pic in press to attract intrested people. The day his pic came in the press, people from FBI, came to question him. They said they saw him couple of days back in the gardens of white house walking, n when they went near him he would disappear, again in some time they saw him walking, n when they approached him he would disappear.
This happened in early morning hours when he used to do meditation. When the guards saw the pic in the paper, they recognised him n came to question him. My Guru said, that he was not physically there, he was giving positive radiation to the Ruling president, n the intensity of his radiation was so strong that his astral self manifested there, which the guards also confirmed thorough the people he was staying with, as he did not go anywhere, n was in deep meditation that day.
A True saint is born with a mission, n after his mission is over he returns to his source, lighting many unlit lamps, to to brighten the darkness of ignorance among the desrving souls, DESERVING SOULS. |
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Posted : Feb 15, 2006 19:17
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Read Vedas
If Not All 4 Read Just The shorter version of all 4...
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jabba
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Posted : Feb 15, 2006 20:08
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On 2006-02-15 19:17, shankarji wrote:
Read Vedas
If Not All 4 Read Just The shorter version of all 4...
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tell u what ............... read and thats the big problem no dictionary to unveil ...... every single mind gets his own version on the platter luv ur gesture
peace n light bro/sis
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*Karma Cola*
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Posted : Feb 16, 2006 02:27
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Indeed. The book "Autobiography of a Yogi" is full of such examples.
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when the mind is free from "mistrust" any form of magic is possible
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what we must understand is that *magic* is completely natural. These restrictions that we have invited upon ourselves through time, has made us think of this stuff as 'magical' or 'supernatural'. Its just plain power and energy.
~*** You can tell By the way i use my walk, Im a woman's man, No time to Talk***~ |
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Dogon
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Posted : Feb 16, 2006 16:53
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On 2006-02-16 02:27, *Karma Cola* wrote:
what we must understand is that *magic* is completely natural. These restrictions that we have invited upon ourselves through time, has made us think of this stuff as 'magical' or 'supernatural'. Its just plain power and energy.
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Exactly....
Magic OR Miracles are a divinely natural phenomenon experienced humanly as the fulfillment of spiritual law.
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acidity
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Posted : Feb 21, 2006 16:04
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Posted : Feb 21, 2006 16:52
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Yeah, I have.
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*Karma Cola*
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Posted : Feb 21, 2006 17:28
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hey all...
I just picked upa book called 'Siddharth' by Herman Hesser. Anyone read it yet, it comes highly recommended to me.
~*** You can tell By the way i use my walk, Im a woman's man, No time to Talk***~ |
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