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psycoactive psybeing
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You didnt understood me, God doesnt punish, its ur actions which experience reactions. Newtons third law states that every action has equal and opposite reaction. So its law of the nature, God is above all this, he neither punishes you, nor rewards you. Whatever anyone gets its the result of his faith, will n deeds. No power from outside gives anything, everything is recieved frrom within.
pEOPLE HAVE FORGOTTEN THE TREASURE WHICH LIES WITHIN, they like the deer in forest who is searching for the source of fragnance, which actually is coming from its navel. Or a man searching for his glasses which is on his head.
What i meant was intention of doing a deed counts, just know what is the intention behind doing any deed, u will know if its positive or negative. Very simple. Its common sense |
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Gopendragon
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what if a guru or a master said wise words,and we try to follow those words blind,without understand deeper the meaning ,without to get accredit those words with our own mind.
what if you say to me that house music
is the best music, when I listen to this music without like it at all...maybe is truth for you but not for me ...
A thief when steals money dont have any remorses about that action,and believes that it is not bad deed to steal,that is the most natural thing for him,and that is because his conciousnes is sleeping in a deeeeeeep sleep,no conciousnes to bring in his mind remorses.
How can you convince a thief that to steal, is a bad deed?
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*neon nymph*
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I dont believe in "God" as such but more in there being a higher power above us that we do not fully understand because we cannot apply science or logic to it, or/and also because this "higher power" takes on a different form for different people.
In the recent past though I have grown wary of the karmic cycle(s). What goes around really does come around. And therein, I guess, lies your so-called punishment or reward. Who really knows about the afterlife or the one thats passed, it all happens right here right now. Like someone said its all within... What happens to you in the course of your life has a lot to do with what you have done, your actions, decisions, and maybe even internal processes like thought (tho i dont like the thought of that at all)? Yes? No? Maybe? |
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Dogon
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I dont believe in "God" as such but more in there being a higher power above us that we do not fully understand because we cannot apply science or logic to it, or/and also because this "higher power" takes on a different form for different people.
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@neon nymph: IMO God is been percieved as "higher power" n thats not true it's just a sponsoring thought (we may be knowing this as Original Sin) in fact GOD is not any higher power & we were created in same likeness of GOD & nothing less or more. Just that people like Jesus, Nanak, Buddha, Mahavir experienced this truth that we are all GOD & they were able to heal people because of this faith & thats how healing is done even from a huge distance, coz of just this faith...... we are all GOD..... we are here to create our lives & experience & then choose what we want to...... the day when we choose to be GOD thats the time when we get out this life creation cycle but we can also choose the physical form to help others to find the way & to choose the path.......
So if u dont believe in GOD so u r not being urself but just being the biproduct of someones else's sponsoring thought!!!
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Gopendragon
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On 2006-02-03 08:55, *neon nymph* wrote:
I dont believe in "God" as such but more in there being a higher power above us that we do not fully understand because we cannot apply science or logic to it, or/and also because this "higher power" takes on a different form for different people.
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@neon nymph: IMO God is been percieved as "higher power" n thats not true it's just a sponsoring thought (we may be knowing this as Original Sin) in fact GOD is not any higher power & we were created in same likeness of GOD & nothing less or more. Just that people like Jesus, Nanak, Buddha, Mahavir experienced this truth that we are all GOD & they were able to heal people because of this faith & thats how healing is done even from a huge distance, coz of just this faith...... we are all GOD..... we are here to create our lives & experience & then choose what we want to...... the day when we choose to be GOD thats the time when we get out this life creation cycle but we can also choose the physical form to help others to find the way & to choose the path.......
So if u dont believe in GOD so u r not being urself but just being the biproduct of someones else's sponsoring thought!!!
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wow!!! you wrote them all for me dogon,couldn t agree more,excactly what I think...about god and "higher power",how I see the supreme entity,is the infinite supreme conciousnes, the cosmic mind,an ocean of uncoditional love and eternal bliss...thats how I could present our Father from whom we are all His childs...Jesus,Buddha,Krishna,Allah,Shiva,Baba...are just human reincarnations who represented Him in a physical form of a body ...pure and high elevated spiritual persons who managed to reach the state of god by searching their inner self, lighting the dark clouds of their soul against ignorance...
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sorceress
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Posted : Feb 3, 2006 21:44
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On 2006-02-03 10:57, Dogon wrote:
IMO God is been percieved as "higher power" n thats not true it's just a sponsoring thought (we may be knowing this as Original Sin) in fact GOD is not any higher power & we were created in same likeness of GOD & nothing less or more. Just that people like Jesus, Nanak, Buddha, Mahavir experienced this truth that we are all GOD & they were able to heal people because of this faith & thats how healing is done even from a huge distance, coz of just this faith...... we are all GOD..... we are here to create our lives & experience & then choose what we want to...... the day when we choose to be GOD thats the time when we get out this life creation cycle but we can also choose the physical form to help others to find the way & to choose the path.......
So if u dont believe in GOD so u r not being urself but just being the biproduct of someones else's sponsoring thought!!!
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beautifully said...
god with in, gods around, life is good till thinking is sound for u know even evil has a good, right has a wrong.
when we unite in super consiousness, we all experience bliss and it comes just the way pain comes and we feel it just as we feel pain... as serene as painless as eternal bliss.
love thyself first
look beyond what is to what it could do
look far ahead of possibilities to what they make
look for it and u will have it
look with in for u might already do
Dont thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously use your intelligence
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sorceress
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Posted : Feb 3, 2006 21:53
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On 2006-02-02 15:55, psycoactive psybeing wrote:
You didnt understood me, God doesnt punish, its ur actions which experience reactions. Newtons third law states that every action has equal and opposite reaction. So its law of the nature, God is above all this, he neither punishes you, nor rewards you. Whatever anyone gets its the result of his faith, will n deeds. No power from outside gives anything, everything is recieved frrom within.
pEOPLE HAVE FORGOTTEN THE TREASURE WHICH LIES WITHIN, they like the deer in forest who is searching for the source of fragnance, which actually is coming from its navel. Or a man searching for his glasses which is on his head.
What i meant was intention of doing a deed counts, just know what is the intention behind doing any deed, u will know if its positive or negative. Very simple. Its common sense
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"every action has an equal and opposite reaction" this is the third law of motion Newton wrote, prior to this there are two other laws
first:
an object will keep moving in a straight line unless it is deflected or stopped by an external force
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Law of inertia - which states that an object will keep moving or jerk in the same line that it was moving in before it comes to rest(absolute hault)
its just not a desire but is a need to get new information for interpretation of different sorts, and before accepting some thing new there is always resistence but if either of this doen not happen nothing stops for the law states that things would keep moving.
Dont thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously use your intelligence
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Dogon
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Posted : Feb 4, 2006 10:27
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when we unite in super consiousness, we all experience bliss and it comes just the way pain comes and we feel it just as we feel pain... as serene as painless as eternal bliss.
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Cent Percent agreed!!!
It's the moment when Pain dissapears, negatives dissolve, evil vanishes....... even the moments of Pain become Painless.........
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love thyself first
look beyond what is to what it could do
look far ahead of possibilities to what they make
look for it and u will have it
look with in for u might already do
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OK, on this note:
Once upon a time GOD felt like tired of all of the people calling him innummerable times every micro second for this n that n this wish n that desire.... n blah blah..... he asked one his pals to help him getting a break from all this & asked him to suggest any hideout so that people find it difficult to find him so that the 'workload' gets to minimum.
So his pal suggested him to go to Mount Everest & stay there.
GOD said: Dude, no thats not the place as there's a human called Edmond Hillary on Earth n is planning to climb Mt Everest so it's gonna be the same very soon, BUSY!!!!
His pal suggested him to go 2 Moon.
GOD said: Dude, thats not the place either as there's a human called Neil Armstrong on Earth who's planning to land on moon very soon so it's gonna be the same there too, BUSY!!!!
His pal the suggested him to go 2 Mars.
GOD said: Brother, these NASA people are even not sparing MARS of being discovered & very soon they're gonna reach there too, so it's gonna be the same there, BUSY!!!
Now his pal started to think and after a couple of minutes of deep thinking & silence, he suggested god to go n hide in every humans' hearth.
God said: PERFECT, thats the place to be, thanks a lot!!!!
Since then GOD is been staying in our hearths, but a major percentage of humans fail to find GOD there & they instead keep looking for him everywhere else other than their own self.
There have been some who were able to find GOD & expereince the GODLINESS as the found out that it's our hearth where GOD lives, so we are all GODS!!!
love thyself first
look beyond what is to what it could do
look far ahead of possibilities to what they make
look for it and u will have it
look with in for u might already do
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acidity
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Posted : Feb 4, 2006 16:30
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Well said Dogon. Really interesting story.
Being a science and technology man, I try to find logic in everything but there are something which and science dont answer and therein lies the answer - GOD. Maybe blind faith maybe some logic behind it.
I am strong believer in Karma. What you do is what you get. Thats one of the most simple sentence which one of the toughest to understand and answer. Time immemorial, people have to tried to answer - Who am I?
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psycoactive psybeing
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Posted : Feb 5, 2006 13:20
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GOD is a energy whose function is To Generate, Operate and Destroy, this whole creation which we see comes forth from this energy, WHICH GENERATES, OPERATES N THEN DESTROYS its own creation. Same way we have that power within in form of our thoughts. We generate a thought or a desire, to fulfill it we operate on a deed, after the purpose is over its destroyed, n the new process starts. More the desire, more the deeds, thoughtlessness n desirelessness is the primary goal to be achieved.
Logic n Science fails on this level, coz its roots r beyond it. Whoever says he is God is a fool, he is lost, no one has been able to find the end of his personality, its limitless n has no end. God does not live here, his radiation is here, like a sun is not present here, if it comes near everything will be burnt into ashes, but its energy is radiated here.
And everybody has described it according to their personal direct experience, nanak had different experience, Mohammad had different.
DOES ANYONE HERE WHO SPEAK ABOUT GOD, HAVE A DIRECT EXPERIENCE, OR YOU ALL SAY WHATEVER U HAVE READ OR HEARD. |
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dont be confused with the mixed feelings when you have experienced him/her/it,  reiteration from others is just a breeding doubt on ur own experience ........... yes i have had direct experience whenever i have loved my fellow beings out of no selfishness or whenever i have done wrong and my thaughts haunted me and realized the wrongs, though the former never happenes all the time but yea i can feel that others too on this thread musteve felt the same or else you dont get connected to this ongoing thread its a thread where most of the users are free from "rejection fear" BUt at the same time even read and wrote scenario needs understanding of the typos of whats read and later experienced
Cheers n luv n light mi bro 
To focus sometimes you need to spin hard on your soul's axis..... just don't ask how and what it means ;) |
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Dogon
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Posted : Feb 5, 2006 17:34
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Yes, i have had those experiences, the moments of realization, times when there's nothing left except the realization of the universal code, creation of experience we call life, through Thoughts, Words & Deeds.......
Those are the moments when we feel we are God & are created using exactly the 3 tools (the only tools) but in a different order.......
The normal order is:
Thought --> Words --> Deeds = Experience
BUT once this is practised the other way round i.e.
Deeds --> Words --> Thoughts = Experience
Both these equations will always lead to experience however the 2nd one will lead to the ultimate experience we call GOD.......
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Gopendragon
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Posted : Feb 6, 2006 14:39
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On 2006-02-05 13:20, psycoactive psybeing wrote:
DOES ANYONE HERE WHO SPEAK ABOUT GOD, HAVE A DIRECT EXPERIENCE, OR YOU ALL SAY WHATEVER U HAVE READ OR HEARD.
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yes almost everyday morning and night ,the time I meditate,were I reach I state that I am charging my body with a joyfull feeling of bliss,a moment that I get syntonized for a while in harmony my vibe frequency with the cosmic rythm,when my conciousnes becames the supreme conciousnes.Every time after my sadhana feel more awakened my chackras more energised and ballanced,a smile is kept on my face,my mind is thinking more clever and able
to give explenations almost in any thing,feel more powerfull and ready for anything,dont afraid anything...I see everywhere god and I receive signs from Him, during the day by my actions and feelings that happens,everything works for awakening,if you think of Him all the time he speaks to you with each different thing that happens on your life,with a secret code that comes from heart and conciousnes.
But if you look for a more direct experience yes!!!in the most difficult period of my life,after years of praying FATHER AMEN every night before sleep for help from saviour Jesus,(I was addicted to heroine and couldn't find the strength to stop,weak mind and soul)finnaly 3 years before near the christmas day,saved me (my personal miracle)I saw His vision with angels around Him coming towards to me ....from that day my faith is sooo strong and my life completely changed...after dark comes light...three years I am purifying mind soul and body,imagine that I was a multinarcomaniac person,and now I dont even smoke cannabis(as much as I was smoking recently),god could replace anything ,my sadhana is my drug,everything I need now god is giving it to me soon or later,if I ask from Him(not ask for something special,but the time I medite everythin works to fullfill my wishes telepatheticaly) and follow his laws,god is within us ,gurus and masters just help us to find Him.
action+knowledge+progress=ultimate goal(god)
all those is from my personal experience and not what ever I heard or read
thanks you read sorry if you get bored
~~~~~~~namaskar~~~~~~~~~
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sorceress
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Posted : Feb 6, 2006 16:01
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@ psycoactive psybeing - another Law of nature states that Energy can never be Created or Destroyed it simply changes Properties
it is we and the environment who change for we do have the right and the power, and it has been granted to us by our own actions... i know i have a direct hotline connection with God for i know when am blessed and when he puts me to test 
@ Jabba - your words are immaculate and brought a smile on my face... huge Respect and Quintals of love
@ Dogon - what a narration, best story telling skills 
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psycoactive psybeing
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Posted : Feb 6, 2006 20:21
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Very Good, im extremely happy that most of u if not walking but definetely sense the right path.
I never rejected anyones thoughts, i just needed a bit more insight on what u already know n understand, im not a saint nor a guru, but just wanted to relate to my experience n urs.
All religious differences r the creation of selfish motives, for the sake of name, fame n building big centres, otherwise goal of all religion is the same. I find myself not attached to any religion, humanity is what i believe in, its primary n all religons come next.
If im not true to my ownself n not follow my duties sincerely, how can i even dream of following the path of saints. This path is meant for those alone, who are sincere n real, in the real sense of word.
The supreme being belongs to all, without any consideration of cast, creed n sex, you may worship him in any form u love. Why should there be riots, hatred, fights in the name of God, Allah, Waheguru etc. One may remember him in any name n form, but if one has envy, n hostility towards the one who r not part of ur group, its futile n u gain nothing.
To live happily n peacefully in the world is one thing and to attain liberation from this world of duality is a different thing. Everyone is not lucky to attain liberation{jeevan mukti} First of all try to be a good human, which even i try till date, coz falling is easy, but still hardcore determination is must. Then follow the inward path of self realisation by detaching yourself from the body, mind and then soul. Then u shall qualify to follow the path of jeevan mukti, coz its only after self realisation is that one moves forward towards liberation or jeevan mukti.
Thousands of saints, faqirs, peers, prophets have come to this world n still come, but still the world is same or even worse i say, its degrading day after day. If anyone can reform or change anything in this world its ones ownself. Performing our duties of a son, daughter, brother, friend, father, mother,soldier,doctor,etc.
Then i feel our life will be more better than many so called saints.
When i see the state of the world n its agony, tears flows from the core of my heart, but i sense peace will prevail, coz if negative energies r active, there r even more powerful positive ones vibrating to balance it. Ther r innumerous saints n mystics, whom we dont know who radiate positivity from unknown source for world peace n harmony.
And i do the same, n ask sincerely from u all to do the same, when u sit for sadhana or prayers, in ur mediatation ask for wellbeing n prosperity of people around in whole n sincerety, i know it will work.
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