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I dont agree to the part of SEXUAL ACTIVITIES even though all the saints in Aastha tells you about it.
But then I dont say that you become Billy Bob Thorton and screw the hell out of every woman you meet.
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sorceress
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My dear friends i know a saint who tells that why are these scientists spending billions on sending people to moon and other devices in space, when i daily pass these planes without any effort.
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very very true...
our ancestors saw it all and mentioned it all in great ancient books... they had spiritual powers now in the material world the scientists are at it... doing the same.. its more stimulating now coz unlike the old gure who could write about things and draw them in natural colours today machines give us a pic depicting what moon must look like from close.
its just that earlier only a few had the privilage to know whats going on and what it really is.. today coz of Auxiliaries like Internet and TV people know what is going on... i dont need to take a trip to himalyas and meditate for years to connect into collective conciousness i could just trun on the TV or log onto the net.
today if we talk about science and its miracles we do say that these were known to us but onlt coz we did know... only a few... rest knows today i know so much more today coz of mediams like Television.
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Lastly, consuming non veg food, alcohol and indulging in sexual activities corrupts the mind and no power can help u in succeding in sprituality if these r part of ur life, infact if u dont stop them, then meditation will kill u, and there r chances u will lose ur mental balance and find urself nowhere.
Sprituality is not a joke, it needs purity, devotion,detachment from personal gains, like name fame wealth etc, the purpose of life is to give n keep giving whatever one can in its capacity to the world. I know its difficult, but being in noble and pious company one can change the thought process. tRY BEING IN COMPANY OF SPRITUAL PEOPLE, U WILL CHANGE UR LIVES NATRUALLY, LAW OF RADIATION FUNCTIONS IN THIS UNIVERSE.
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very rightly said... yet again when some one starts on the spiritual journey he would have ills so all is good.
medidation kills u -------- ouch!!!
mind blocks.
Valmiki who wrote ramayana could not even say RAM so to chant his name he had to say MARA
so
MARAMARAMARAMARAMARAMARAMARAMARAMARAMARAMARAMARAMARAMARAMARAMARAMARAMARAMARAMARAMARAMARAM 
consuming Alcohol... well anything fermented is more difficult to digest, so when u meditate and any trace of fermented thing is still in your system u will have lesser energy to concentrate elsewhere coz digestion would take more of it... but then some amount of fermented food is also neccesary.
consuming Non Veg - it again takes more energy to digest it. but to make a note i dont think it really makes a diff. non veg would inturn be plants etc converted to other things naturally by the beast we eat so no diff... just that they are more complex forms of protiens hense more time for stomatch to digest it.
SEX - hell no it wont do u any harm till the time u dont over do it  and at times even overindulgence is fun.
kamasutra states that there are two parts to sex - Yoga and Bhoga... yoga is when u coupulate to have an offspring here sex is pious and pure... feeling for each other are so pure and respectful and devine... u plan to give birth to a lifeform together and intend on taking care of it as it grows up... it is the greatest responsibility so yes am sure the feeling has to be pure
Bhoga - when u just enjoy the physical satisfaction aspect of it... even then it proves to be good and beneficial on a long and grully day.
its just that once u know it and not getting any u keep thinking about it so energy gets wasted... hense i guess the RIshis decided to not enjoy it at all after all u will not know the taste if u dont eat it.
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Gopendragon
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if you consider that we live so many lifes and those who follow spirituality are persons who follow an evolution in each birth and rebirth pass from personal initiations every 10,100,1000,10000,100000,10............years till our last one life ,reaching more and more higher spiritual levels,and different states each life towards to the the final ultimate goal,we start to realise the importance of sex more conciously and be able to be like Rishis maybe,or like someone who dont see sex only for flesh satisfaction but more as a natural way to born an angel and grow up that being with the best values and principles ,while the same time elevating our spiritual progress in such as states to become one with god even before we die,and finnaly manage to get liberation before we left our physical body,that means that we can choose if we want to reborn again as an avatar or rest in peace with gods and saints.
why you thing that the most religions gives so much attention to sex
In the book of parakeltus in spiritology explains how lust imagination for sex, effecting with a negetive way the mind and the seed sperm.So many lust evil spirits awaits the time you spill sperm and "wear the clothes of that future body" to have the opportunity get inside the new life and have a kind of control uppon the new life of the baby.
How to born a child without any karma follow that child from the day wich is borned,a child that will start life only with a solar body,and not a lunar.There are astronomical days according to a the mystical combination of the dates wich are the best to do it and rise kundalini in the higher states for the perfect sex results.
So how responsible we are when we have to create a life,and how much aware are we have to be, when we decide to choose this this wonderfull path...
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*Karma Cola*
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Hello all..
Very recently i finished a book by *Mark Tully - No full stops in India*, which i found immensely entertaining and informant. It deals with some nice issues, my favourite being 'The Kumbh Mela'.
Its such a good informant on the many akharas, sects and guru's. Very nicely also shows how the whole set up works.
Other issues include sati, communism, riots and politics. Well, its a great book and i enjoyed it so recommendin to all.
What do u guys think about the Mela and these books that seek to explain these things?
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psycoactive psybeing
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There are three kinds of food, satvic, rajsic and tamsic, which have different affects according to their essence. Food which grows natrually with the aid of sunlight and earth comes under satvic kind.
A person is adviced to be on more satvic diet when on this path, coz from food blood is formed and it influences mind too. You can check any book on sprituality and confirm ur doubts about this. Tamsic is the worst kind of diet, which includes flesh, and food which is not natrual and stale. I will lose anything if anyone here shows me a statement from any spritual saint that its advisable to have alcohol when on this path, i even say with full confidence that wherever there is alcohol there can never be peace.
@ sorceress - i agree with u, that the intention of involving in a sexual activity matters, havin physical lust in mind is very degrading and cannot bring purity of mind, im talking about purity, and lust is not purity. Out of 40 drops of blood 1 drop of semen is formed, n out of 40 drops of semen 1 drop of seed is formed which forms a child.
So wasting this essence which is energy in the body, for physical pleasure is harmful for the body, and i confirm the person whos life revolves around sex both physically and mentally will lose their mental and physical health in due time.
Whatever desires are latent in the subconscious become more active and powerful when in meditation and will power natrually increases of a person who meditates, so if his desires are negative and his mind is impure, these desires will become more powerful and he will have increased will to fulfill these negative desires, hence i said it will affect the sadhak negatively which might be fateful for him.
SPRITUALITY IS NOT FOR EVERY TOM, DICK N HARRY, there r chosen few who walk this path with full devotion sincerety and purity, for the rest its advisable to live a happy, positive and healthy life, till their time arrives.
I know the person who genuinely wishes sprituality will understand my feelings.
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psycoactive psybeing
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Nam is given to the aspirant, to recite internally to still the ever wandering mind and stop it from going on negative grooves, it can be anything ram nam, allah hu, 1,2,3, Abc, whatever, the purpose here is to concentrate, and mediation is concentration, when u concentrate fully ur mind is fixed on a object, n that is meditation.
I dont know why im saying all this, i dont know if im right or wrong, i dont know anything, if u think im right its fine if u think im wrong its still fine.
I find myself again in the realm of silence, which is like my mother, always giving me peace. I witness the everflowing bliss in maximum all around, imheheisme |
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sorceress
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Nam is given to the aspirant, to recite internally to still the ever wandering mind and stop it from going on negative grooves, it can be anything ram nam, allah hu, 1,2,3, Abc, whatever, the purpose here is to concentrate, and mediation is concentration, when u concentrate fully ur mind is fixed on a object, n that is meditation.
I dont know why im saying all this, i dont know if im right or wrong, i dont know anything, if u think im right its fine if u think im wrong its still fine.
I find myself again in the realm of silence, which is like my mother, always giving me peace. I witness the everflowing bliss in maximum all around, imheheisme
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wow
mate your posts just keep getting better and better
well i'd wanna know more about the food stuff that u spoke about.. three kinds - satvic, rajsic and tamsic.
am a lil more of a physist than a spiritual aspirant... so i denoted the meaning of all like Alcohol, non vegetarian food and sex in a very literal physical realm..
as far is lust is concerned it is harmful and we all know it... even those who never medidated perhaps, thats how teenage life term is the more difficult.. but apparently each and every one goes thru it today... its just a cycle.. or may be am saying all so that i dont feel guilty alone... 
alcohol does make a person loud but many tests prove that alcohol... specially red wine does good to the heart.
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Gopendragon
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Posted : Jan 28, 2006 12:37
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Baba said"regarding sex,the more retsraint the better"moderate it,everything needs moderation in life.Rishis says about hence,Samael says that we can do it much more than once,but always a few seconds before ejaculation try to keep that nectar,dont spill that white light,and then all those energy goes straight up to the head,kundalini is awakened in such as high states...everything is true,we choose what feets better to our selves,what makes more sence to our vibration,different technics, different paths,but the same purpose ,the same goal,merge with god,union(yoga)...but a high elevated spiritual person have to make a sacrifice...if we search to find the root of each action we certainly realise the truth of everything and then know how to face and understand each reaction and why.
why is it bad to say lies?because we refuse our conciousnes when we say something that we know that is not true,and confuse our own conciousnes let it fall in deeper hypnosis,and this is the root of that sin.
The ancestral sin of Adam and Eva in genesis(bible)when they eat the apple after the snake order it to Eva, is the root of every sin,lust is the key and I am happy that we have realize it.
About the wine,a glass a day keeps the doctor away,but not like Dionysous the ancient greek god of wine who where drinking all day and making orgies,much alcool makes the mind thing with more lust,the beer also cleans the body from inside.
What about cannabis before meditation?do you believe that it could help or not?
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Nam is given to the aspirant, to recite internally to still the ever wandering mind and stop it from going on negative grooves, it can be anything ram nam, allah hu, 1,2,3, Abc, whatever, the purpose here is to concentrate, and mediation is concentration, when u concentrate fully ur mind is fixed on a object, n that is meditation.
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true, but there have to be an ideation in concetration and when we chant 1 or 2 or 3, or a,b.c what kind of ideation we have? mathematics or simple alphabetic letters in mind not a special meaning that we focus on with our thought waves conentrated in one central point ,no special magic vision,a misguided empty autosuggestion.Every sound have its own different vibe frequency that activates our energies with a special effect,OHM for example includes all those different frequences and activates all the energies around the cosmic system of the universe.
If the mantra is a holy sacred name of a god gives a positive vibration wich activates the energy of the god and awakens his spirit,and that is for sure a safe guidance in the spiritual path that creates an energetic shield for the spiritual aspirant to avoid negetive spirits.
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acidity
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I think taking a Gods name or OM helps you more then repeating 123 or ABC. Maybe the old saints gave a lot of thought when they devised those words.
Each and every word has its own vibration and its meaning. Some positive some negative. My granny used to say that in the old times people used to keep their childrens name either with Gods name or some word that brings postive vibration and energy when called out.
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anything that does not disturb others peace and is done with pure devotion , may it be chanting mantras to whatever is loved by the supreme ........... all activities which are logical to nature and the ecosystem and to the human beings is all spiritual ...................... awareness is needed to know everything that is built with love is near god then may it be a thaught or a conversation or a sketch or a concrete wall .................................... spirituality is inborn but awareness is what we are sent to seek,...... the day we are most aware we shall progress in the light
peace n luv
am dazed today but excuse if am vague
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psycoactive psybeing
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Posted : Jan 29, 2006 13:53
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@ sorceress - My dear friend u need not feel guilty, even i have been through moments of weaknesses, where i have lost the battle with my mind, n lost myself in the realm of darkness n ignorance, its natrual, but a person who does not realise his mistakes n does not try to come over it cannot succeed, if somebody genuinely does not want to be pure or has repentence within of his wrong doing how can he be pure.
As far as diet u inquired about, Foods that r frozen, canned, processed with artificial colours, genetically altered, which r chemically fertilized is not recommended beacause they lack vital life energy. It is best to choose food which is locally grown, foods that r inseason, that r organic, natrual n whole.
Tamo guna means state of darkness, ignorance, anger and laziness. When a person gets angry or in deep sleep they r not in control of themselves. Foods that increase tamo guna in the body is known as tamsic. Onions, Garlic, Meat, and other artificial foods all come under tamsic foods.
They make people angry, lazy, n hateful, they can never be compassionate.
Ahimsa parmo dharma, which means non violence, or non injury. The meaning of this not limited to humans only, it involves all living creatures. Like us thay also have feelings.
At the time when the animal is slaughtered, it also experiences pain n its life force when leaves it body in the state of fear n pain, its impression n feeling remain with the body subtly, n when we eat it, the flesh which has impression of fear n pain enters our body too, giving us imbalance of the mind. I dont know if u will believe me or not but its the truth. FOOD CREATES OUR THOUGHT, so it is important to be on pure n sattvic diet. One should eat to live, not live to eat.
As far as wine is concerned, or any form of alcohol, it will only imbime negativity n nothing else. |
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@ jabba - very rightly said, as far as we dont hurt others feelings we r on right path. What is sin? according to my understanding a deed done for personal motive is known as karma, and if we hurt, cheat, harm, kill, or do any negative deed to others for our benefit it counts as sin, n no power in this universe, or any God can save u to face the consequences of those deeds. Same way When u do a noble deed of helping n caring others it adds to ur karma n u have to bear the fruits of them too.
Only deeds which r done without any selfish motive does not add up as karma, n does not add up in the balance sheet.
A soldier on the war zone kills enemy, n gets medal, n if the same person kills somebody outside the warzone for personal motive gets punishment from law. WHY? Coz the person when killing enemies does it for the sake of country not his ownself, n its not a sin. Even law understands this. Same way a judge gives death sentences, life imprisonment etc to convicts. He is not doing any sin, though he is hurting others but, its for the safety of the society, not himself.
Its very simple to understand the truth, we just need to have genuine eagerness to know it. Be awake n look around, An ocean is so powerful, it can destroy earth in its arms, but still it remains in limits, n only gives to the world its fortunes. What i learn from it, is when somebody is powerful n fortunate enough to help, it should not use its powers negatively, instead use its resources for wellbeing of others n himself.
Once when i watched an aircraft taking off, a thought struck me about aerodynamics, when the plane marches towards its final run, the air gives resistance to it, n when the plane defies the resistance n marches forwards the same air helps it to lift it up in the air, without air a plane cannot fly. So if we face hardships, stress, imbalance in life we should not give up, we should march forward positively, the same resistance will make us even stronger n lift us up towards our desired goals one day. Being positive n optimistic is very important. |
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Sorry to create flashback effect but Sorceress my pm to you keeps bouncing back to me for some strange reason.. inbox is full?
Here is link to Rishi Valley official website: www.rishivalley.org and its alumni website which is more personal www.rvs.org
Thsi is what JKrishnamurthy thought about education for those of you who were interested last time-
“The purpose, the aim and drive of these schools, is to equip the child with the most excellent technological proficiency so that the student may function with clarity and efficiency in the modern world. A far more important purpose than this is to create the right climate and environment so that the child may develop fully as a complete human being. This means giving the child the opportunity to flower in goodness so that he or she is rightly related to people, things and ideas, to the whole of life. To live is to be related. There is no right relationship to anything if there is not the right feeling for beauty, a response to nature to music and art - a highly developed aesthetic sense. I think it is fairly clear that competitive education and the development of the student in that process.... is very, very destructive” .
Life was sooo sooo good there. |
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@ jabba - very rightly said, as far as we dont hurt others feelings we r on right path. What is sin? according to my understanding a deed done for personal motive is known as karma, and if we hurt, cheat, harm, kill, or do any negative deed to others for our benefit it counts as sin, n no power in this universe, or any God can save u to face the consequences of those deeds. Same way When u do a noble deed of helping n caring others it adds to ur karma n u have to bear the fruits of them too.
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@psycoactive psybeing: Baba i have to disagree here.
What is Sin?
IMO Sin is a relative term which has been 'mis-used' by humans since several millions years now. Sin-Karma as you have explained are being referred as Right-Wrong,
Good-Bad etc etc but there is nothing Good or Bad & Right or Wrong as these are deviced by humans to rationalize their thoughts about GOD. AND this might be not 'their' thoughts but imparted by Parents, Teachers, Fellows, Religionists etc (as they've been taught accordingly by their ancestors). It's the sponsoring thought that matters & as thoughts are creative we create our lives by the way we think, speak & act. They say GOD will punish you if you do 'wrong' (Sin) & would reward you or praise you or like you or love you & forgive you if you do 'right' (Karma)..... but i believe that GOD can never be selfish & never ever punish you to anything you create as the idea of our lives is to create & GOD gave this power of creation to humans & she did this in the likeness of 'herself' the GOD, so how can GOD punish you or even ridicule you for something she created as GOD NEVER COMMITS SIN!!!
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