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Gopendragon
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On 2006-01-18 16:17, h2so4 wrote:
Coming back dreams.
Has it happened that you had a dream and you got up not feeling refreshed as would have expected after a tight sleep? Did the dream hamper your sleep?
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what kind of a dream was that?what you saw h2s04?A nightmare?
did you slept for much hours or much few?
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*Karma Cola*
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Posted : Jan 18, 2006 20:46
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Yo guys.. i gotta tell u what happened to me quite recently. Especially sorceress 
I went to London this New years to sorta suprise my mum and stuff, and everything was goin fine. For the first coupla days i basically just ate & slept which was fine by me  .
One night.. more like early mornin i fell asleep as usual after everybody and i was lyin in bed for like 10 mins when i felt this tingle across my spine. It started from my neck all the way down to my back. A very odd feeling like someone was blowin air onto ur neck softly. And right after that, i felt this amazingly depressing feeling all across my chest. This massive crushing feeling across the heart, not like physically painful, just a very very sad feeling. Like you have just lost someone dear to you.
I remember i cudnt sleep after that and i watched some telly instead. Told my mum about it as well, and she told me that she had somethin like this happen to her too. Someone had 'sat' down on the edge of her bed while she was facing the other side (you can feel the weight) and had gently tapped her on her shoulder. She thought it was her husband, but he wasnt in town then.
Anyways, her philosophy was that a person gets more attuned to stuff like this, with the more white light meditation he/she does. That by doin this powerful energy meditation, you can attune yourself to things generally considered paranormal.
Do you guys wanna say somethin about that??
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sorceress
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Posted : Jan 18, 2006 21:15
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I went to London this New years to sorta suprise my mum and stuff, and everything was goin fine. For the first coupla days i basically just ate & slept which was fine by me .
One night.. more like early mornin i fell asleep as usual after everybody and i was lyin in bed for like 10 mins when i felt this tingle across my spine. It started from my neck all the way down to my back. A very odd feeling like someone was blowin air onto ur neck softly. And right after that, i felt this amazingly depressing feeling all across my chest. This massive crushing feeling across the heart, not like physically painful, just a very very sad feeling. Like you have just lost someone dear to you.
I remember i cudnt sleep after that and i watched some telly instead. Told my mum about it as well, and she told me that she had somethin like this happen to her too. Someone had 'sat' down on the edge of her bed while she was facing the other side (you can feel the weight) and had gently tapped her on her shoulder. She thought it was her husband, but he wasnt in town then.
Anyways, her philosophy was that a person gets more attuned to stuff like this, with the more white light meditation he/she does. That by doin this powerful energy meditation, you can attune yourself to things generally considered paranormal.
Do you guys wanna say somethin about that??
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yes i want to beat u up right now for am all alone at home and scared  Dont thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously use your intelligence
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sorceress
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Posted : Jan 18, 2006 21:26
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i have been trying to fight off a whole lot of feelinf specially of being lonely and second to keep work pending.
when i shifted into this new apartment i set up most of the rooms except this one room where in i kept all the opened and unopened boxes.
i even made a small mandir in that room with these lil lil thigs i got from back home... but this room did not have any light in it and it did freak me out... i remember not even looking at it for glancing at it use to make me very scared despite of knowing that i have a small mandir there... so finally i gathered all my courage and took up the task of clean the room. now its all clean and set and i realised the frightening feeling i had in my stomach was not for a ghost there but work.
may be that night u just slept with some thing on your mind...
but u... Kola i still can beat u up for i have shivers running down my spine right now. 
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*Karma Cola*
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Posted : Jan 19, 2006 00:56
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@Mrinal
Trust me, i was quite freaked out myself. I was in England where the weather is rather horrible and misty and damp. And you know the feelin u get when u feel like the only one awake, while evryone else's asleep.
My mum's cool though, she was like, the fellow was just sayin *hullo* to you. !!!!!
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Hex Osirus
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Posted : Jan 19, 2006 05:36
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@ Karma
Did you find yourself unable to move while this was going on?
If so then this sounds like, the "old hag" or female succubus, a negative entity that can try and scare you or freak you out during the Sleep Paralysis Stage(the point between being awake and sleeping where you are very vulnerable to "attacks", especially when you become aware of this process taking place) )
It is a fairly common negative entity, And alot of people who practice, Meditation, Lucid dreaming and Astral Projection seem to have encountered similar effects( Sensing a dark wierd sexual presence, Sitting on a mattress, pressure against the chest,)
Their goal as far as i have read is to usually try and scare you away from developing yourself spiritually and "walking the path".
Do not worry, Its ver normal I hve been trying to practice Astral Travel and i too have had wierd experiances during sleep paralysis, sounds, wierd vibrations etc. It Freaks me out and i never practice at night, only if i wake up and there is some daylight outside i try to Astral Project.
visit the forums on http://www.gnosticweb.com for more info
also visit http://www.gnosticweb.com/forums/4_1047.html a very similar experiance to yours.
Hope this helps
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*Karma Cola*
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Posted : Jan 19, 2006 07:17
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@Hex osirius
actually, it was not a paralytic effect but i know what u mean. It was this .. how to put it.... extreme sadness (somehow fits). Like you know not a 'shit.. what happened to my wallet' panic, but a deep deep feeling of loss. I know i got up and needed to leave the room.
But as for Astral projecting oneself, i remember Gopendra sharin that experience with us, and its simultaneously exhilarating as well as frightening.
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Posted : Jan 19, 2006 08:01
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@ Vagator- When you say you went to KFI study centre, are you saying you went to Rishi Valley??
@Kola- I studied in Rishi Valley all my life and it was by far the best thing that ever happened to me. I believe a lot has changed now havent been back for a long time) but at the time I was there, we were schooled with a no pressure philosophy (no exams till class 10, no medals on sports day etc) and to be surrounded by 360 acres of free land (which has officially been declared a bird sanctuary as well for abt a decade now), hills, waterfalls, abt 3 dozen kinds of snakes and scorpions roaming freely, and so on was something I just cannot even begin to describe. The spot for the school was finalised on when Krishnamurthy was walking around and came across this Big Banyan Tree (fondly referred to as the BBT no where we used to go on weekends on our cycles and swing and play. childhood. *sigh*) that he fell in love with. He then constructed the school around it. Annie Besant also had something to do with it but I forget what exactly. I didnt think much of Krishnamurthy's philosophy for a long time till I got older and started reading his stuff... the man was wise! And so sweet. So was Pupul Jayakar who was a grand old lady who would talk to us about life, the universe, and Krishnamurthy.
AND OH MY GOD. Same dream thing happened to me... two or three times that I remember. Feeling crushed with a grave sense of deep loss. I woke up and was so grateful for the rubbish on the telly. And @H2SO4: Has happened many times that I have a series of dreams causing restless sleep and so when I wake I am really tired, and all ready to get some real sleep. Good to know we are not alone.
And now I am curious about astral projection.
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Posted : Jan 19, 2006 08:07
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@KC when astral travel begins to happen and you are just about to leave your being this phenomenon starts to happen ........... it happened a lot of times when i got this sleep paralysis .......... it occours just before sleep paralysis is about to take over ......... many people , like what you did ,do the same i.e. get up and leave and feel this sadness but actually its the feeling of fear of unknown which makes you feel you lost something and then you suddenely want to divert yourself from this "nothing" and sometimes it is quiet possible someone wants to visit you from the nether world ...............  @hex osirius is right for what he said something is there surely that prevents one from exploring the unconcious
@sorceress  you shall over come someday
god bless
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Hex Osirus
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Posted : Jan 19, 2006 15:50
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astral projection is the most amazing thing that i have discovered recently, id recommend everyone to check it out. gnosticweb.com has an excellent 10 week free online course on lucid dreaming and astral travel, it gives you all the information you need to become familair and start exploring the astral plane( 5th dimension, place where we go when we dream) Also various conjurations to ward off neg entities and demons!!
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Gopendragon
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Posted : Jan 19, 2006 16:53
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http://forum.isratrance.com/viewtopic.php/topic/78103/forum/1/start/105
just only look my post on the 8th page to see about a gnome/troll who visted my dream for two nights and waht we discused,hihi,ther are so many dangers when we pass through other dimensions.
people who died from an accident or suicide them selves,starting to became ghosts,their astral body with all of their unfullfilled wishes,bad actions,egos,hatred,are flying free in the astral field,and if we try to fly with our astral body without a kind of a shield or guidance we might have to face those dark spirits who have extremely more powerfull strength from us who have our body still alive.
@Hex Osirus
I know some gnostics who have tried the astral plane,I also have started and try to practise that some times,but is not so easy,only a few people manage to escape with their astral body with only few times to try,others have done it after weeks or months or even years,the thing is are you ready to do something like that?
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sorceress
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Posted : Jan 19, 2006 17:17
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@ Gopendra - i'd like to believe that just because some spirit is evil or dark that does not make it more powerful like u said in your earlier post.
may be they could decieve us better for they may know there way around it but we too do know our way around things too.
@ Jabba - thanks for the blessing bro, i know i have to conquer the feeling of panic which starts from the neck goes thru my spines makes me hysterically scream, shiver and run out of the room but hey like Karma said Panic could also be - hey i lost my wallet kinds
bro i am beginning to let go. 
@ Hex - dude i like the link u gave the first one read some of the extracts by Samael Aun Weor, liked them a lot.
@ neon nymph - Rishi valley sounds really really nice... could u pm me some website i could check it out on. 
as far as Astral projection is concerned...
we are living in two worlds... the outer and the inner world, we experience the outer domain thru our external senses and it seems to be real even though when i step on to a hot stone it is some chemical produced in my body which travels all the up to my brain for my brain to make me intend on removing my foot from it. and the inner world which i know of when i medidate...
a whole of people who have experienced near death talk about a white light they see at the end of teh tunnel... hell all those who medidate know the white light... its life (may be even oxygen) may be that one spark in the brain which send the signal to the heart to beat.
when we on drugs we hallucinate (like DUH, i know that too)
my frens gave me instruction to stop them from jumping off the balcony when they thought they could fly... baby even if we intend to fly we not built for it.
so a dream being real is some thing i do understand and making all that u wanna make of it too... may be astral projection also i understand but i need more evidence... i remember this topic coming up before and i could not make anything out of it... may be i dont want to but once more can anyone share an experience of what its like???
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*Karma Cola*
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Posted : Jan 19, 2006 18:59
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@ Sorceress
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In his book Autobiography of a Yogi, Sri Sri Paramhansa Yogananda has explained with amazing clarity and detail the difference between the physical, astral, and causal planes, as per traditional Hindu philosophy. According to him when one dies his soul moves to the astral plane. There he reaps the results of his past actions or karmas and accordingly reinhabits a physical body or moves on to the higher causal plane.
The astral plane can be visited consciously with the astral body through means of meditation and mantra, lucid dreaming, or other forms of occult training and development. Some people would visit the astral plane by accident, simply by getting out of bed while the physical body remains sleeping. Unconsciously, the astral plane is the location of our consciousness while the vital body repairs damaged tissue and processes the wastes of the physical body.
(as taken from Wikipedia)
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Remember Yogananda's guru Yukteswara talkin abt the different causal planes that we encounter, and that you can skip ahead by meditation and awareness?? That was seriously the best part of the book.
And also, how the big guru's cud be in two places at a time.
@Gopendra
That was insane. You see, in this thread every Indian member can tell you that they have been scolded sometime when we were kids by either our parents or the maid/driver etc for the same reason. This is to prevent us from picking up strange objects from outside, especially forests. As most ancient people we believe in the power and magic of forests and tree's etc.. and bringin it into the house is considered a no-no. I remember my 'ajji bai' would thrash me if i ever picked up stones from the river side. She used to freak out and constantly remove my 'nazar'
But its true, u never know what ur letting in, what powers reside in these objects.
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Gopendragon
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Posted : Jan 19, 2006 19:45
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@Sorceress
sorry but I disagree with you on that point,because we who have left our physical body alive the time we travel with the astral body,we loose a small piece of energy to keep the physical body alive,someone who have died from his own suicide and flying free through the astral field is like a ghost ,havent got anymore physical body to keep it alive and not nesesary to use a piece of energy for that,and so his energy is 100% in his astral body as his moves.
I have read spiritualism,cosmology,anthropology...and necromantic writings from the ancient greek alchemist Parakeltus, who gives a special analysis about all those different bodies we have and how these bodies react in each different field,before and after death,each different possibility that could happen,including astral flight.
...I was reading Parakeltus while listening to psy trance and that was one of my most inspiring spiritual moments,that alchemist gives one of the most deeper analysis I have ever read...
@karma Cola
as you said traveling with astral by accident is something that had happened to me sometimes,as you remember from some previous posts on that
topic,but when I try to do it conciously I always fail,the truth is that I havent tried that much times,and if we wanna succed and escape from our physical to astral we have to practise that much times,chanting sacred names relaxe and ask from the cosmic father to take you a ride the time he would apear in front of you,and take you to the church of gnosis need disipline and much effort,only if we are pure and ready for that masters would give us the change,astral plane is not a game...
in wich chapter of autobiography is that you wrote Karma Cola?
I still havent finished it because while I reading it I also read other books like the great rebbelion(finished)buddha's necklace(finished)revolution of beelzebub(finished)from Samael Aun Weor,and now Parakeltus...
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sorceress
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Posted : Jan 19, 2006 22:28
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On 2006-01-19 19:45, Gopendra wrote:
we who have left our physical body alive the time we travel with the astral body,we loose a small piece of energy to keep the physical body alive,someone who have died from his own suicide and flying free through the astral field is like a ghost ,havent got anymore physical body to keep it alive and not nesesary to use a piece of energy for that,and so his energy is 100% in his astral body as his moves.
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well i have to give it to u it does make sense of them being stronger than us...
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I still havent finished it because while I reading it I also read other books like the great rebbelion(finished)buddha's necklace(finished)revolution of beelzebub(finished)from Samael Aun Weor,and now Parakeltus...
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who would be the author of Parakeltus, i wanna get my hands on this book
in the art of dreaming by Carlo cataneda the neugal explains to him that we are usually carried away to diff planes by scouts... and by scouts he would mean anything unsual or out of the blue... like a fish walking on the ground or a baby snake having three heads but a tiny body, an angry mother, stuff like this captures your imagination, and u intend to follow it thru... buts its said in Tibetean book of the dead that if u do not let such wants (that is to be lead by them) come in your path and come back to the focal point u will trancsend into white light with out experiencing any hallucinations. like wise man Jabba says "let go"
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