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!! ** Autobiography of a Yogi ** !!

spacelove
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Posted : May 25, 2005 06:25
SHIVA 3000
JENS LARS JENSEN

nice book ya.
*Karma Cola*
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Posted : May 25, 2005 07:24
@jabba

that is so typical of our mentalities. I wont point out certain ethnic groups coz thsi happens all over the world...
The stoppin of building shit because of some site being holy is such rubbish.

Ok.. yeah..what if its holy.. How do u define a site being holy. guaranteed a birth place or a death bed of a powerful, enlightened being or if an extraordinary thing occured than yeah, mayb eits great to revere and build some sort of monument to it.. but every damn thing has become holy for some narrow minded peopel who look at only wealth and power in this life. oh if only they knew. If only they knew that thsi life is just a steppin stone to somethn so great its unimaginable..
Even holy sites according to me, are nothing more than just centres of great energy levels... a sort of cosmic force has drawn the energy around us and channeled it to some spot .. and these are the places we bow down and kiss...
Simple energy man... and when we say Gods within us , its just an emphasis to thsi energy that moves and defines us...



ok.. nicotine break here I come...


          ~*** You can tell By the way i use my walk, Im a woman's man, No time to Talk***~
jabba


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Posted : May 25, 2005 08:47
@ KC that is exactly what i was trying to say ...............

There are people who do realise this and then when you do worship collectively you create a being who is supreme and my weird theory says that if metaphysically we created some supreme being which is a huge mass of energy then it is quiet possible that this energy was present in the universe along with the central black holes(which are present in each galaxy including the milky way as freak gravity and it did channel the energy to create the matter thus a living planet (as we call it)was formed (ref. to the theories and true findings in space) so its going around in circles but still we become the smallest part of the energy and gas family with "altered matter and powers of thinking/creating" which is non existent in the other matters of this universe which we know untill some other planet beings present themself with superior brain powers ........................... so the point being that the energy that gave us life is the one i refer to as GOD and do like to see them as faces ........ Now also there is quiet a possibility that there were super humans who possesed more energy and intellect that they were an integral part of the universe and thus it can be true of the stories we read of depicting these people as avatars .................... So again its all about energy .................. But not people in general would think about the energy and stuff coz they have been fed without letting them think by frightening them with religion by many religious groups .......

But the question again remains that what is the soul then ???????which no denying the fact do exist, and what is meant by spirituality ? So again the paradox begins that is there something more to the universe than just energy/mass/gases which can control its movement coz considering the fact that our galaxy's black hole is possiblly an alive one and is gulping down its tunnel the planets around and then turning it to energy at the speed of 5,40,000 kms/hr and still our solar system does not move an inch , since the universe at the same time is expanding .... so how come there is a balancing factor as at one side the galaxy is contracting in the middle and the outer spasce of galaxy is being stretched so we remain where we were thausands of years back .....................

peace n happy tripping

peace
jabba


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Posted : May 25, 2005 08:57
so the point being that still the belief of people will remain with or without the knowledge of science ....................... even the greatest scientists had the undettered beliefs in God (?)


and for the black holes just one ref. more is on the net if searched

http://hubblesite.org/newscenter/newsdesk/archive/releases/1997/01/
*Karma Cola*
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Posted : May 25, 2005 09:02
hmm.. the science part baffled me somewhat. u need to talk to sorceress abt thais, its right up her alley.. but i understood the gist of ur message.

But what i want to light upon is the ' scaring of people with the name of " GOD" '...

Maybe this is the only similarity practiced by all religions.. Oh shit! dont do thsi.. dont do that.. women are inferior but u can have 10 wives... dont eat pork/beef but hey.. nobody gives a fcuk if u eat chicken and fish all year round....
Dont cut down trees, but where the hell u think the next batch of toilet paper is goin to come from.. my ass!! ( see the horrible pun.. )

What has been done to religion is something that we need to address right now!!.. and unfortunately or fortunately we can start by changin our attitude.. forget the masses man.. not goin to happen.. look what happend to those who really tried.. Jesus or more recently gandhi, luther king.. u name it.. their dead, and our only consolation is that their somehwere better..

but i get really pissed when i see some dude on the tv giving his sermons abt such Bullshit!!! Where do these ideas come from.. do they come from , teh fear of mordernism or the fear of having to finally look within us and realising 'im a real bum' !!

We need a mass production of 'true-self' mirrors on this global market.. maybe thats the only wake up call which can work...
          ~*** You can tell By the way i use my walk, Im a woman's man, No time to Talk***~
jabba


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Posted : May 25, 2005 09:18
I agree with you completely and detest seeing those TV preachers ,

The taboos need to be addressed but who is going to understand when you have public (at least in INDIA ) who protest aginst the best horror film "naina" coz they feel that its wrong to even fictionize any idea that scares them of no reason

and the US where they are afraid of the attacks by killer bees



but yes atleast most of us in this generation do give a thght so it will take time and radically its difficult to change the beliefs

peace




Less Toilet papers required if all used the water jets and the dabbas
friedclyde


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Posted : May 25, 2005 09:22
ok sorry but this is way off wats hapening here.........I just picked up a book cauz i read 3 lines in it that just redefined me......and my concepts.......At the feet of the Master - Osho.....i just got it gonna read it soon will update u guys if its really neat........           http://fractalenlightenment.blogspot.com
~~~Lysergic Me~~~
cosmic gill
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Posted : May 25, 2005 13:48
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On 2005-05-25 09:02, *Karma Cola* wrote:
But what i want to light upon is the ' scaring of people with the name of " GOD" '...

Maybe this is the only similarity practiced by all religions.. Oh shit! dont do thsi.. dont do that.. women are inferior but u can have 10 wives... dont eat pork/beef but hey.. nobody gives a fcuk if u eat chicken and fish all year round....
Dont cut down trees, but where the hell u think the next batch of toilet paper is goin to come from.. my ass!! ( see the horrible pun.. )

What has been done to religion is something that we need to address right now!!.. and unfortunately or fortunately we can start by changin our attitude.. forget the masses man.. not goin to happen.. look what happend to those who really tried.. Jesus or more recently gandhi, luther king.. u name it.. their dead, and our only consolation is that their somehwere better..




Ommmmmmmmmmmmmm

My take on Soul talk..........

Souls don’t represent all that is pure and good about a body or they wouldn’t be incarnating for personal development. Souls come to Earth to work on their own shortcomings. In terms of self-discovery, a soul may choose to act in conjunction with, or in opposition to, its own character in the selection of a human body.

As an example, a soul combating tendencies toward selfishness and indulgence might not mix well with a human ego whose emotional temperament is disposed to engaging in hostile acts for self-gratification.

Quite often, troubled people have suffered painful environmental trauma such as physical and emotional abuse as children. They have either internalised themselves, creating a shell to hide behind their pain, or externalised by mentally moving outside their bodies on a regular basis. These mechanisms are a means of survival to preserve our sanity.

When a client tells me that they love to ‘tune out’ and practice astral projection because the out-of-body experience makes them feel more alive, I look for disturbances. Indeed, I may not find anything other than curiosity, but an obsession with being away from the body indicates a desire to escape from current reality.

It is perhaps for this reason I am troubled by the walk-in theory as another escape mechanism. I believe the whole idea of walk-ins to be a false concept. According to the proponents of this theory, tens of thousands of souls now on this planet came directly into their physical body without going through the normal process of birth and childhood.

We are told that these possessing souls are enlightened beings who are permitted to take over the adult body of a soul who wants to check out early because life has become too difficult. Therefore, the walk-in soul is actually performing a humanitarian act, according to devotees of this theory. I call this possession by permission.

BOOM SHIVA
Gopendragon
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Posted : May 25, 2005 16:54
about shamanism the master of tribes Mirce Eliade and his great research about evry diferent ancient cilvilazation with shamanic traditional culture connected everywhere around the world even before 15000 years from ancient shamanic hindu yogis to ancient greek shamanism.Treasure of knowledge. the book is "SHAMANISM"BY Mirce Eliade!!!
dont lose it thousand of mythical gods native spirits ,shamanic typical rituals and amazing space trips beyond space time and real world .Bridge between past and future!!!

great topic it feeds my spirit!!!
...
@Karma Cola,so unlucky my man another one try to write you an email failed cause of a damned stuck of the computer system...but never give up...dont forget you...
          ~~~~~~~namaskar~~~~~~~~~
After the End,a new Begining startS..
*Karma Cola*
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Posted : May 25, 2005 19:53
@ devilicharsi

thats a very interestin point about the soul. I personally wud not have associated the tendency to astral project with some sort of trauma. But its a different way of lookin at this need to eitrher withdraw within ourselves or expand out of ourselves.

@ Gopendra

Dont worry abt it man.. just keep adding some mor wise messages..

@jabba

Isnt naina some sort of copy of the 'ring'.
Now whats teh deal with these dum fcuks.. whast wrong with a movie like this. Im suprised they havent come out against 'Black'. Incidentally i havent seen it coz im nowhere near india, but i hear its great.. has anybody seen it.. is it really that good ??

          ~*** You can tell By the way i use my walk, Im a woman's man, No time to Talk***~
cosmic gill
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Posted : May 25, 2005 22:06
Ommmmmmmmmmm

@KC To some, God is Peace; to others, Light and Love. Some find meaning in music; others, in work. Worldwide, people need to be awakened to the presence of the divine within.

Snow or shine, God is the silent ocean flowing through the streams of experiences within each of us.

BOOM SHIVA
@triptonic@

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Posted : May 27, 2005 13:28
i ahve read all the pages and found some great books to read and would like tio thank everone fro their inputs

@cola nice topic thanx and must compliment u on ur knowledge bout the super power on d right track

@sorc good knowledge bout books

@mystic stop being sarcastic

@dcharsi thanx for the input on Jesus looks like u have interest in him nd i feel that is y u have chosen to keep quite andlisten to every1

@jabba
*Karma Cola*
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Posted : May 27, 2005 22:45
@triptonic

The idea behind the thread was that i desperately needed somthin intelligent for a change, and seein that i waste so much time on it, decided to take a chance a put this up.. didnt expect this to run AT ALL.
But hey, i have met some great thinkers like the one's on this thread... This place is rockin now           ~*** You can tell By the way i use my walk, Im a woman's man, No time to Talk***~
cosmic gill
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Posted : May 30, 2005 13:47
Ommmmmmmmmm

Toward a New Psychology of Women
by Jean Baker Miller (Paperback)

not just for women...........if ur interested in self exploation...............

BOOM SHIVA
Hg
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Posted : May 31, 2005 04:21
Sat Nam!

he hee... Don't know how this relates to trance, but... still nice.

Let's see, not mentioned:

Bhagavad Gita - Krishna

Nitnam:
ik-oNkaar sat naam kartaa purakh nirbha-o nirvair akaal moorat ajoonee saibhaN
gur parsaad.
jap.
aad sach jugaad sach.
hai bhee sach naanak hosee bhee sach....

Mentioned...
Huxley - I would strongly recommend ISLAND.
Orwell - 1984 and AF ring some bells...
Paulo Coelho - cheesy.
Herman Hesse -
...

Siri Guru Dev Singh

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa
Waheguru Ji Ki Feteh



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