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Astrix Syndrome?
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Sputer
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Posted : Jan 7, 2003 08:25
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ha ???
if someone cant recognize between astrix and GMS so he have some problems.
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BrainStorm
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Posted : Jan 7, 2003 12:47
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lol lol
yeah, thats a problem if people cant distinguish between the trance bands..
but actually it ought to happen because there're too much likely bands
Actually that what this topic was initially about.. copying from each other
i am not agree with somebody here who said that psytrance got a very few styles (directions) and that its impossible to break those and to bring new kind of trance..
it doesnt sound like a nice appologise for those trancers who just copy the famous, well-known sounds, synths and basslines
I think the field is still digested like only for 50%... there're always a new things to bring
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Sputer
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Posted : Jan 7, 2003 13:02
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whats annoying is that there is some artists that have the SAME sounds. I dont talking about style im talking the same sounds.... 4 example Astrix & Atomic Pulse. they have the same crush sound the same samples etc..
Thats sux !
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Morbidelic
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Posted : Jan 7, 2003 15:50
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Hey i just want to say that to make music its not easy business man.. 
and all the tracks from the artist can't be with diffrent sounds completely so after a while they get a new thoughts and try to be more original its a time matter thats my opinion...
Respect! 
B O O M . . . 
Happy Happy,Joy Joy.
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Gilad Refael
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Posted : Jan 7, 2003 15:52
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ha ???
if someone cant recognize between astrix and GMS so he have some problems.
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that's what i meant.
people change names of astrix-like (silicon sound, atomic pulse) tracks to astrix... and gms likes to gms...
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morph27
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Posted : Jan 7, 2003 16:21
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if it works on the dancefloor thats enough for me!
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Kaz
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Posted : Jan 7, 2003 16:28
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Well, I've been saying this is happening in both full-on and progressive for a while. The Scandinavian sound in progressive (well, especially Son Kite and Ticon IMO) is starting to be repetative, Talamasca and Nomad already explored most of the full-on realms that people are just changing into formulas to success nowadays - mind you, Astrix does nothing that Talamasca didn't do years before and better (with less up to date production though).
It's a trend in the trance scene. It's as if the expansion and changes in the music were on a logarithmic scale - in the beginning, you could guess within 6 months when a track was made just by listening to the first minute - that's how fast the music developed. Nowadays, I can listen to half a track by Cubica (for example), and not know whether it was produced a year and a half ago or yesterday... Change which used to be the heart of the trance scene is placed at #2 to production values and cash income (due to the slumping CD sales, mainly), as can easily be seen by TIP which with each compilation up to 2000 showed us what we'll be dancing to in the future, while TIP World just releases lots of dancefloor full-on led by GMS and Alien Project.
That's the way it is people.
The scene has grown. It's not underground anymore. Underground is NOT a relative term. A successful formula will not be replaced. It's so easy to satisfy a crowd by giving them an entire set of GMS, Astrix, Alien Project, Atomic Pulse, Safi Connection, Silicon Sound and a few others. No need to do something special. No need to do something psychedelic. Challenge the crowd? Hell no. Give them what they like.
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Mike A
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Posted : Jan 7, 2003 16:51
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On 2003-01-07 16:21, morph27 wrote:
if it works on the dancefloor thats enough for me!
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Another point.
So what if it's the same? Look at pop music. Why do many people like it? Because it's good and catchy. Who cares if they repeat the same thing?
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Sputer
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Posted : Jan 7, 2003 16:59
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when all the same is boring !!!
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psydark_light
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Posted : Jan 7, 2003 17:03
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On 2003-01-07 12:47, BrainStorm wrote:
i am not agree with somebody here who said that psytrance got a very few styles (directions) and that its impossible to break those and to bring new kind of trance..
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GET REAL MAN !
new kind of trance won't be a trance !
maybe new synth and high level of music will be (for sure) , but new trance will be something sucks IMO
since the trance is full on , tech and goa
these styles are the basic of psytrance.
and there won't be another psy basically !
minimal is mini music of tech !
Full on is everything (tech + goa + whatever else )
goa is goa (ambient or trance..)
and something eles is something eles but not trance!
there will be new killer songs and artists , but not such a big change in the trance ! BIG CHANGE WILL BE SUX (and my mind is always open)
look at atomic pulse , Alien Project , Astrix , Safi connection and too many more have the fucking same sound ,same tracks! , same concept .
when go to buy a cds , buy one of them and that's enough, cause if you would buy all of them ,its like you bought 4 cds of atomic pulse , now this is sucks ! (because of the same concept in the tracks! most of the tune are the same ,most of the tracks are the same !)
alien project is the killer and the most original in this case IMO
PS - I bought their CDs .
what if everyone of us will think positive about peace ?
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Kitnam
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Posted : Jan 7, 2003 18:23
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Yossi wrote:
"as soon as some 1 "discovers" a seccesfull pattern ppl just jump on it like on hot mufin`s... "
this is the naked truce
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BrainStorm
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Posted : Jan 7, 2003 19:10
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PsyDark: well, i dont have the same concept with ANYbody 
you dont believe? try my tracks and see that you cant say its likely to any known bands, while its trance for sure..
maybe some places will sound a bit similar, but its not the "full concept"
KAZ: im agree fully, but one thing
its indeed easy to satisfy the crowd with all the same "well-known" sounds
but it will be like that until the crowd hears something different, which it may like or hate
MR.Ray-Man: i am not agree.
its possible for trance band to come with a new sounds (synth lines, effects, basslines - EVERYthing) in each tracks
but to succeed on it, one must spend not 2 months for producing whole album.. one must spend half of year for producing 2 tracks
there're really A LOT of different sounding devices nowadays.. tons of synthesizers, bunch of a great synthesis software and really hugest library of effects and other things trance includes..
i know its not easy to produce something different - you HAVE to work your ass out to get not "usual" sound
Sputer: if it was only the same crash sound, i guess it wouldnt worth describing
but the problem that its "the same basis" and the same loops even, just a bit varied
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Sputer
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Posted : Jan 7, 2003 19:14
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of course not just the crash... I just wrote example.
I know its the same basis 
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snafu
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Posted : Jan 9, 2003 15:30
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This so-called "Astrix syndrome" is bound to happen when you have so many succesful artists living in such a small country as Israel (which is where a lot of this style of music comes from). If you want something different, try exploring artists from different countries around the world. There are still lots of great, innovative artists out there and, let's face it, a tune is a tune, no matter what or who it sounds like. |
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lurk
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Posted : Jan 9, 2003 15:59
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I agree with Snafu... we did a party with full on music from 12am to 7am and not one growling atomic connection project track was played all night. Sorry, I lie, 1 atomic pulse track was played (Digital Self if i remember rightly).
Personally I think it's a waste of time complaining about this when there is a lot of other good full on music coming out. |
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