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ARTISTS AND THE MIDDLE MEN

itche


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Posted : Jan 27, 2005 12:34
HALLO PEOPLE...I HEARD THAT DETOX AND SOME OTHERS ARE PLAYING THE MIDDLE MEN ON ARTIST BOOKINGS...THIS COMES FOR THE ORGANISER OF A PARTY TO PAY 300-500 EUROS MORE ON THE MIDDLE MEN...DONT BE STUPID..THE INTERNET IS FULL OF TELEPHONES AND EMAILS OF YOUR FAVOURITE ARTISTS..GIVE A TRY AND CONTACT THEM BY YOURSELF..YOU DONT NEED THESE GUYS TO MESS AROUND YOUR FEET...THE ARTISTS DONT HAVE ANY PROBLEM SPEAKING DIRECT TO YOU...(EASY MONEY FOR STUPID PEOPLE)

I AM SURE THAT THIS TOPIC WILL BE DELETED SOON...THE REASON IS CRYSTAL CLEAR
Narcosis
Narcosis

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Posted : Jan 27, 2005 14:22
I agree you with friend. but i never hear this before about DETOX etc. I have allready speak personally to many acts and djs. so i dont believe that the others are so stupid to do that thing.           Trance Sound As A Medium Towards Mystical Experience...
Space Boy
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Posted : Jan 27, 2005 16:28
yea it'll be realy great,let every body call his favorit artist and make his privete party because if everybody make partys it'll be like prive because we're going to have 10 partys every week           Takse mou !!!!!!!!!!!
There is more space between atoms and the other atoms of the universe
DETOX
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Posted : Jan 27, 2005 16:55
Itch have you ever heard the term BOOKING AGENT?

Probably not...

P.S Your topic should be locked indeed like you said but for reasons that you seem to ignore,like writing with caps and calling other people stupid.           Toodaloo Motherfuckers!!!!!
mahabarata

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Posted : Jan 27, 2005 16:57
Quote:

On 2005-01-27 16:55, DETOX wrote:
Itch have you ever heard the term BOOKING AGENT?

Probably not...

P.S Your topic should be locked indeed like you said but for reasons that you seem to ignore,like writing with caps and calling other people stupid.



Yes,lock also this or delete it like you did with other topics......
itche


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Posted : Jan 27, 2005 20:32
WHO IS A BOOKING AGENT..I SPOKE WITH ARTISTS AND THEY DIDNT HAVE A CLUE ABOUT AGENTS AND SILLY THINGS LIKE THAT...GIVE ME A BREAK MAN.......
DETOX
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Posted : Jan 27, 2005 21:35
And who are you that you speak with artists that i work with?

Can you please give us your name or are you just another 'undercover user' ?

P.S And please stop using caps,i already asked you once to stop doing that.          Toodaloo Motherfuckers!!!!!
Narcosis
Narcosis

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Posted : Jan 28, 2005 01:44
I speak too with some artists DETOX and its nothing hard to be.
But if you want to make money like this way its not my promblem.
But i dont say that ur going to make money like this way because i dont know enything about this.           Trance Sound As A Medium Towards Mystical Experience...
DETOX
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Posted : Jan 28, 2005 08:51
Ok to end this story because i got much better things to do than spending my time with couple of people who have multiple accounts in this forum and bug people all the time.

A booking agent is not just someone who has the telephone numbers and emails of artists and contacts them and books them easily (GMS for example have both telephone numbers and emails on their Spun website,try and call them on your own and book them for Greece and see how easy it is....oh by the way they also use a booking agent LOL).

A booking agent is someone who has worked in the past with many artists for his or others events and someone that artists trust for dealing with their bookings and events.

A booking agent helps in bringing in contact a promoter with an artist.For example a new promoter who doesnt have a contact for the artist he wishes to book.Or a promoter with an artist that is difficult to book for various reasons,the booking agent sometimes is a very influential person that can fix difficult bookings on which he can persuade an artist to come and play for a new promoter or a promoter that the artist hasnt worked in the past.

Also a booking agent most of the times can arrange for the organiser much lower prices for an artist than the organiser can arrange himself.For example if i am a good friend with artist X i can book him with 1000 euros for a live perfomance while if the organiser calls this artist he will get a price of 1500 euros for a live perfomance.

A booking agent also is responsible for arranging all the details of the booking of an artist such as flight tickets,accomodation information,equipment that the artist might need and much more.

Also you might be suprised to know that many organisers in our country are not even capable of speaking decent english so they need someone to do the bookings for them because of their lack of the english language.Just try to communicate through the telephone with some Israeli artists that dont speak also good english and then you will understand what i mean hehe.

Last but not least some booking agents are so influential that can persuade an artist that performs for a certain organiser for many years to come and play for another organiser,this is something very common in our greek territory where promoters fight with each other all the time.

These are just some of the taks of a booking agent.Organisers and Artists are very busy doing other stuff and thats why most of them have booking agents and managers to arrange the artistic part of events.And this happens not only in the psychedelic trance scene but also in the progressive,techno,house and electro scene.

So if ITCHE you think that all of the artists and party organisations that use booking agents worldwidely are stupid and that you are smart then sorry to inform you but you dont have a clue of what you are talking about.

P.S Concerning me,i have worked with ALL the major organisations in Greece booking artists for them and also i am working and collaborating with major organisations all around the world in countries including Mexico,Japan,USA,Belgium,France,Russia,Yugoslavia,Australia and UK.You would be suprised to know also that before couple of months i was asked to book a London based artist for an event in England!!!To make you understand what kind of booking that was i will give you the example of a Mexican based booking agent booking Wizzy Noise who live in Thesaloniki for an event in Athens.I am giving you this example just to understand how important booking agents are in the psy trance scene today and to show you that the organisations and artists that use these agents are not stupid BUT are clever enough to boost their plans by using these people in order to make their life easier.          Toodaloo Motherfuckers!!!!!
nemesis_dj_uk


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Posted : Jan 28, 2005 09:47
just because i was reading this topic i had to interfear, first of all bookers .or agents are from there record labels, most of them ,out side booking is crap , its knowing an artist from some kind of booking in the past and bringing him to a new orginiser who doesnt know and is in a hurry to do a party and reeping him off/ for the price of 1000 for live the dj have to be small names . if you can bring for example Gms / for 1000 to play live. i will stop playing music and start doing parties/ mate/ when a dj has a name and playes all around the world he usualy has a normal fee/ he normaly cuts just a little for friends organisers from his fee. every one is intitled to do what ever he wants with bookings or enythings that has to do with this sceene. but you can even email an artist like erez from infected mushroom, through his booker from the internet who is eyal and book him. only if an out side side booker knows erez or eyal and says crap that you are a bad party promoter so he can steel your bookings , so then you have to deel with him . and then you think he does the big bookings. which in truth it is stabing you in the back ,to take money and bargens 100 or 2000 moreto make his profit from your booking, so just talk strait to the agents from labels and if you want big artists ask for contracts when artist signs he keeps the deal.
nemesis_dj_uk


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Posted : Jan 28, 2005 09:53
mistake not 2000. its 100 to 200 for the money.
itche


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Posted : Jan 28, 2005 13:37
Man you are trying too hard to make us believe that you are a "Booking Agent" but history says others things...As u can see by your own, the term agent exists only if a record label or an artist put u at this place...And you are not authorized by any of the above...So stop repeating about friends and lower prices cause the only thing i am hearing is higher prices...Even an Artist that u dont have to know his name complain about messy arrangements...And for the term trust if you transfer half of the money to the artist's account i dont thing that he is going to have any argue So give me again a break and stop trying too hard to persuade us.....

By the way u dont have to know my name..It wont make any difference..The things i talk about are not my words...People are complaining and i just happened to hear them.......
nemesis_dj_uk


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Posted : Jan 28, 2005 14:11
my friend why do you complain to me. im not a booking agent i am a Dj, im just giving you the factes. England is the major booking centre in the world.iv been playing in rec. companies a long time, so i can confirm what i wrote is true
itche


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Posts :  50
Posted : Jan 28, 2005 14:48
Sorry my friend.I am not complaining to u..This was my reply to Detox....
Lux
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Jan 28, 2005 15:55
Detox my friend in some things you said you have a point but hey man, this is not the story really.

Things are much different from the way you present them.           Don't hope 2 much 4 something cause u may end up getting it...
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