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Aren't online mixes stolen music?
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famiable
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Posted : Dec 11, 2005 13:03
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All cds that are bought from legitimate sources give the owner of the CD the right to listen to the Cd privately.
Buying Cds DOES NOT give the buyer rights to commercial use of the cd music. Hence, when a DJ uses music from the Cd in a mix, he is violating the contract he entered into when buying the CD.
Unless all Djs pay royalty to the artists for using their music in a commercial project like a mix which I can safely say is very rare or non-existent, they are violating the law. In short, even most Djs are pirates!!
lol..but the source of the problem is the cost of cds in todays age. If the cost of cds comes down, piracy will probably come down much faster..
what do other people think??
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Forest dreams
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Posted : Dec 11, 2005 13:44
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On 2005-12-11 13:03, famiable wrote:
lol..but the source of the problem is the cost of cds in todays age. If the cost of cds comes down, piracy will probably come down much faster..
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hmmm...thats a sweeet thought but we cannot ferget that the labels have to earn profit.
i dont feel cd's are too over prized as such, but with the amount of music happening its not convienient or affordable to buy everything that releases!
imo...legalizing mp3 music as in selling mp3 could be a really good option...but then again, could that also mean end of good quality music? maybe not!
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traveller
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Posted : Dec 11, 2005 14:59
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On 2005-12-10 12:36, nolightatend wrote:
IF Mycel wanted to help artists, they could decode it on 128kbit and cut some small parts so it would be imposible to play this music on party, thus would stop DJs from making money using pirated material.
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I agree so MUCH! They should like add audio stamps over the music twice a track too or something.
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Krell
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Posted : Dec 11, 2005 18:37
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On 2005-12-11 18:27, nolightatend wrote:
Travaller it is much more complex that you think, Mycel are not what you think they are, trust me IT IS all mind games!
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What then ? 
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traveller
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Posted : Dec 11, 2005 19:04
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Yeah what then? I think they're a mp3 ripper group..
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Eric Foard
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Posted : Dec 17, 2005 14:40
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Man, you guys get deep!
I feel a bit bad about my online mixes, but Self Promotion is all I’m doing. Maybe one day someone from another country will book me. After that I’ll take my mixes down off the web.... hahahahhaahahaha
So, in turn my mixes shall be online for quite some time. Too bad I’m more into epic and progressive trance compared to Psy.
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Drunken Monk
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Posted : Aug 30, 2006 22:05
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what happened with the "DADVSI" law ?
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Jikkenteki
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Posted : Aug 31, 2006 04:13
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Things may have changed recently in the USA with RIAA doing its thing recently, but I know that for as long as I can remember, the record industry had agreed to basically "look the other way" regarding DJs having to pay royalties for tracks they played out at clubs (assuming of course that the actual club itself was paying its dues in that department) because the DJs basically gave the major labels a lot of free advertising when they played their tracks out. Everyone knows DJs would have to pass out mix tapes to get gigs and such so it seems that the basic stance was "as long as money isn't passing hands for the actual music" (i.e. DJ promo purposess only, you aren't selling mix tapes... even though lots of DJs in other scenes do that as well) the industry would basically ignore it. There was also the issue that trying to stop it would create a huge amount of negative press for the industry as a whole as well. However, at the time downloading free mixes and such wasn't an issue so its entirely possible things have changed in the last couple years since RIAA has gone on its little campaign.
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Aug 31, 2006 05:00
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In the UK the PRS collects license fees from venues where music is played. As well as clubs etc, this includes radio, TV, pubs, shops and anywhere where music is played to the public. A venue playing music without a license will get taken to court - this happens. Once license fees have been collected they are distributed proportionally to copyright holders according to how often their music has been played. This obviously means that mainstream pop artists get paid more than psytrance producers because of course their music is played much more often. PRS license payers are supposed to keep records of what music they play to enable funds to be distributed fairly; of course DJs are notoriously reluctant to deal with paperwork so our style of music is relatively under-represented, and this is why the PRS currently has a scheme to promote the proper recording of tracks used in all kinds of DJ sets. The PRS has reciprocal agreements with similar organisations in many countries which means that if a Latvian act gets its music played on the BBC, the money will go to the right place.
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Rik
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Posted : Aug 31, 2006 10:29
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International copyright clearly states that whenever a record is played in public, a fee needs to be payed. This only concerns liscensed music (music of artists that have signed with copyright organisations).
This counts for dj's, a radio in a supermarket, EVERYTHING.
Dj mixes may not be distributed without paying fees (technically speaking). If you put them online the riaa may fine you quite a lot of money for every single download of the file.
quite a few people here talks about this as if it's something uncertain, or that they have a policy of not caring... surely when you check there pricing schemes you'll see different.
on August 31st the rates (in Belgium) are:
-Per section of 5 minutes of music to give some atmosphere to a website, you pay 40.37 euros.
- for an hour or music you put online (streaming) you pay 94 euro a month.
-For a cast (shoutcast/webradio) maxed out at 250 listeners you pay 1345 euro's a year
-streaming live music from an event (mind you that you already pay for the performance here, this is an EXTRA cost) 53 euros / hour
- archiving live performances and making them available for up to a year: 134 euro / hour
This last one is the most related to putting a dj set online i guess... putting a live recording online.
You might think that this only applies to belgium, but this is international copyright law. Fee's may vary slightly but if you check with your local copyright organisations it should be quite clear that this isn't a local system.
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KakoOlalaJwal
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Posted : Aug 31, 2006 11:43
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On 2006-08-30 22:05, Drunken Monk wrote:
what happened with the "DADVSI" law ?
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It has been adopted by the bunch of cocksuckers from our Parliament..
Yet, the text of the law is too "fragile" to be applied properly, but some of these bastards are working on amendments to strenghten it..
To sum up briefly, it means for us french :
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| focuses on the repression of the exchange of copyrighted works over peer-to-peer networks and the criminalizing of the circumvention of digital rights management (DRM) protection measures. Other sections deal with other matters related to copyright, including rights on resale of works of art, copyright for works produced by government employees, exceptions to copyright for education and the handicapped, among other issues.
The law was highly controversial within France for it could significantly hamper free software, and also may significantly restrict the right to make copies of copyrighted works for private use.
Some amendments to the bill, not present in the original version, might require manufacturers to share their proprietary digital music formats with other software developers. |
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One of the "concrete" applications would be in example :
Downloading an MP3 file on a P2P software : fined 150 €
Sending the SAME MP3 via E-mail to another person (which means uploading the file temporarly on one of one's mail operator server) : 3 years in jail and fined 300.000 €
 Isn't that funny ?
No it's not.. Bunch of Macaques..
(I wonder who i'm insulting here.. Politicians or Monkeys ? oh.. well..)
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