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Nomolos(Zenon Rec.)
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Posted : May 24, 2004 12:33
This last weekend at a small party in Israel
a party org' and his friend got stabbed in the chest! after the security did not want to handle the "baloon gang" that came...the party org' tried to prevent them from going in to the party and both him and his friend got stabed and needed to be operated on in the hospital....

FUCK THIS SHIT....where is this going too????
u cant have a party with out fuckin ARMED gorillaz standing at the entrance....that is pure HELL.
as long as Trance will be so popular and attract so many drug users,this shit will happen again and again.....
Dance under protection??????????????????
not what i came for!!!!!!!!!
what can WE do???
          "....or is it???"
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Posted : May 24, 2004 13:12

On 2004-05-24 12:33, djnomolos wrote:
what can WE do???

not much. i myself just prefer small clubs and progy house.
cant stand all these agressive vibes of today trance parties.           Believe your soul !
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Posted : May 24, 2004 14:00
uhh sad news.real bad thinks start happening.
hope they are better now
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Posted : May 24, 2004 14:10
pretty sad
peace out

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Posted : May 24, 2004 14:47
Fucking hell.

Sound to far out. Don't think there is so much you can do It's sad.

And if you had all under protection, it takes alot of the karma gone, it can not flow the way it's supose to.

Hope the 2 people are okay.
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Posted : May 24, 2004 15:09
o.k so first of all i really hope the party org will fill much better asap and continue making beutiful partys for beutiful ppl cause this is what this party was all about...

2nd:i really think security is needed in evry gathering of more than 20 ppl this days in israel doesent matter if its a football game the love parade or a small underground friends party not only because of criminals gangs but because of terorists acts.
so i really think a good security is needed its not have 2b an armed gorillas just the right ppl for the job.sometimes the answer to this ganges is to beat them at their own game

about the balons problem its a very tricky one:lets say you are making an eligal party and you have security that keep this ppl out and lets say its a nice ppl that live without problems but on they way out they calll the police and then your party is over.

and even if you have all the permits and the police cant close the party but you have a fight with this ppl in the party atleast for me this party is over...

so i guess the only solution for this problem is to make this shit iligel but this is not up to us(yet)i guess it will happen only after the first guy will die o.d out of this shit(cause that the israeli way)any valentirs?????

          Always agressive never progressive.
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Posted : May 24, 2004 15:11
Sad to hear this. What's a "baloon gang"?
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Posted : May 24, 2004 15:20
security people are afraid of the gang??? Maybe investing more in security is an option that all party org should look at......

i know the costs are way 2 high for organizers already, but cmon, seriously, this is dangerous shit and i say "fuck the money" is more important!
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Posted : May 24, 2004 15:36

On 2004-05-24 15:11, Hrishikesh wrote:
What's a "baloon gang"?

ballons filled with nitro oxide are common in almost evry party in israel now you can see it also outside clubs and even in places you whouldnt imagine...

the ppl that sell it are usually drug dealers that realise that they can make much more money out of this shit than from the "regualar" party drugs...

the big problems with that stuff are :

this ppl come with this shit to partys with no invetation and make problems if you tell them to live.they make the party bar lose money.sometimes the org of the party invite those ppl to the party and he pay them 2 "work" the problem start when another guy coming to sell it without pay and then....

and the biggest problem for me is that its damn grose 2 c ppl using that shit i know evrybody sepose 2 do what ever he feels like in a nature party but that stuff looks damn narcotic how whould you fill if u will see somebody shooting heroin in a party???           Always agressive never progressive.
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Posted : May 24, 2004 15:43
there are many "extra's" an orginizer can take for his party, that take from his direct profit and actually give him "no gain" whatsoever, those extra's are the line between people who make parties to earn some dough and those who make them to make X people happy for a weekend.

just a question : how many parties have you been to that had an ambulance in them ? ever thought what would happend if sombody was somehow injured 200 km. from the nearest hospital in a place full of tripping people ?

there is no cutting around it, if you want to make a party there is way more then the minimum that you have to invest. 4 guards is a minimum in my opinion, ambulance is also, free water, whatever. you need to understand as an orginizer that X people are YOUR responsibility... and this comes before profit.  for info, shows new tracks and more.
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Posted : May 24, 2004 16:19
fuck man thats sad news to hear .... anyways peace and prayers to the people and their families who got stabbed           New mixes on

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Posted : May 24, 2004 16:21

On 2004-05-24 12:33, djnomolos wrote:
what can WE do???

Basic laws of economy - supply and demand. kill the demand - If ppl will stop buying balloons, the balloons ppl will not be there, simple as that.

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Posted : May 24, 2004 16:31

On 2004-05-24 12:33, djnomolos wrote:

what can WE do???

Karnaf basically said it. If everyone in the scene stops taking it, they won't sell it for long.
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Posted : May 24, 2004 16:45
i have to agree with you avishay as the party org your responsible to the safety of your guests....

i have to also agree with you karnaf.
but goverment around the world try to fight the drug thing for years unsecsesfuly sometimes with drug some of as like and use(weed/acid).
so if the supply demand is the answer i guess we have a problem ...           Always agressive never progressive.
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Posted : May 24, 2004 19:30
grab a weapon and kill them all...thix is what i wanted 2 write and do...but we cant...violence generates violence...well...there are means but they will always degenerate in hangry and violence...thix is a shitty thing that happened...
and not only in israel thix portugal i heard @ a party shots had been fired...people dont know what they are doing...dumb assholes...           ...
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