Acidance's latest cover issue

On 2006-02-01 11:54, Gnome wrote:
i havent bought the cd yet, but i know the covers ur talking bout.
i dont think the aciddance guys "like" these pics, or have a positive
attitude towards violence, itz a concept like many punk/metal bands have...
itz made to shock people, to make them start thinking about the world.
for sure the pics are not nice and not made for showing them as "cool pics".

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Did i ask to see the real world? I dont think so!!!

for sure not, but this is an artist expression, and thats not always made for
ur pleasure.
in the end i more like this kind of cover, than any self-promoting artist picture,
or crappy drug-related covers.
there is just one restriction for me: if the aciddance cover was made to let people pay
attention, instead of having a message, this would be cheap promotion, but i dont
think itz that way...

On 2006-02-01 12:08, scobbah wrote:
June: In my humble opinion there's a difference between spreading actual violence and spreading awareness. For too long too many, still in my opinion, have turned their heads in the sand and chosed to blindfold themselves to what's happening in the world.

Now we're closing in on a possible merge with the politics-topic again... Yeha! Anyhow...

To me, putting all your money into drugs, drinking Coca-Cola, eating at McDonald's and a lot more things -- now that's violence. If the awareness spread about what's causing harm in the world, we might together pull it off and try to stop it. A single person can do jack shit but all together we're strong and we can try to make an actual change.

Stating an example... If someone's so "PLUR" and "openminded" and goes with the shanti-attitude, howcome the same person many times are eating at McDonald's (a corporation that's anti towards labour-unions, using chemicals in their production, abusing animals etc, read a book on the subject, quite an amazing read) or wearing a pair of Levi's (manufactured in India under crule circumstances working 20 hour shifts, using chemicals in the production that are illegal in the West, having children to work in the factories and a lot more) and more and more... One can go on for an eternity.

This is not being an elitistic thinker but in my humble opinion, love and caring for others, freedom and all that goes hand in hand with what you consume, with how you act.

Assume you were the childworker in the factory under these crule circumstances, barely making a living and you have to live at the factory and send your money home to your family in order to help em survive cause your shift schedule and the costs of travelling home after work are a bad combo for you... Would you like the world to turn their back on you?

The WTO demonstrations for example in the U.S., Prague or whatever are great examples of people trying to say enough. I don't say I support the violence in the demonstrations but please understand that this is people who "democracy" turned its back on... People trying to say no, to make an evident message sent saying it's enough. Anyone read something by Orwell, more specified '1984'?

Everything goes hand in hand and I could rant at this forever... Conclusion is, don't turn your backs on your fellow people as we're all animals in the end -- when freedom is at stake...

On 2006-02-01 12:13, Acidhive wrote:
"Even trance can get a hint of the real world sometimes"

On 2006-02-01 12:17, June Rashava wrote:

True.. but its individual violence. Its a personal choice.
Its not a personal choice to be forced to see this terrible pictures.
I am not a sensitive person, but these pictures actually made me throw up. Felt sick and mentally violated, since i did not have a choice to see theese pictures.
Why bring more awareness to us? We already know. And what i am saying also, is there should be a limit.
I am not facinated but brains spread out on the floor and a head this is crushed and looks like an alien! That is too extreme.
Dont you understand there is a limit!
Even on telly when they show all the war stuff on the news, even they dont show pictures like this.. And still, we are aware!
And nobody is turning the backs to nothing.

On 2006-02-01 12:28, Troll@CrackWhoreModels wrote:
next time just put som written saying that the cd contains violent pictures

On 2006-02-01 11:54, Gnome wrote:

i dont think the aciddance guys "like" these pics, or have a positive
attitude towards violence, itz a concept like many punk/metal bands have...
itz made to shock people, to make them start thinking about the world.
for sure the pics are not nice and not made for showing them as "cool pics".

this is an artist expression, and thats not always made for ur pleasure.