*eLliSDee*
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Posted : Feb 23, 2011 16:31
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On 2011-02-22 16:13, jabba wrote:
be simple , try to train your brain to think only positive .
This is a big problem for my mind.
You see, i find it impossible to decieve myself with false hope. i embrace reality. Not hide from it. In my reality statistics do not lie.
You are asking that i practice self-deceit.
This denial might give some tempory comfort but one can not hide from death forever.
NO, i will rather embrace the reality of the situation. Reality you grim old crocodile. I'll swim with you and be truthful.
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Posted : Feb 24, 2011 09:33
i guess you went too emotional on the above quoted phrase ............... ok let me give you an example : one day you are walking on the street with your kids and there you see two muggers .......... what do you do ? i guess the personality type i see in you you would give your best shot to shoo the mugger away OR if he starts fighting then you would do anything to protect the kids .............no !!! at that moment do you judge right and wrong ... i guess not
AND my brother i am not asking to practice self deceit .................... again read {" TRAIN" your brain (not the mind) to think only positive} but i never said that negative would not come .... so how do you fight the negative ideology is either by being positive .... OR by ignorance creating an event which you are not sure when it would arrive ? it may be any day so why worry over foolish righteousness .... your cancer did not see or gave any thought to your nature or your family ................ so you are not fighting death but the effect of cancer AND I believe you can and will easily defeat it but surely not by thinking about something which can happen any time so pointless thinking about it ..... when you accept everything that has or is happening then my friend it should become a routine in your mind that for the time being this is normal and that it has to improve with time and not worsen .... and GOD forbid even if it does worsen believe me you shall have the courage to face those moments (temporary) but only if your mind is fresh .................
and we are humans and we are privileged to make mistakes of nature or our own, learn and move forward ........
the "spiritual guilt trip" does come in over every thing you think that may help you like if its wrong or right karma .... best way is to find new or old hobbies .... some kind of work or your job to keep your brain busy more positive you become more positivity shall arrive in you ..... you may fall many times in the moments you dread but you have the courage to come up again and resume your life
positivity is the only way your body can start healing itself and believe me human body is designed to take any kind of pressure provided you are strong willed but strong will does not come by thinking only but by doing things which you would normally do ...... then again its your life so you will decide what to do and what not to ..... but just be resonable to your own self and no problem if you try at least to get back on normal schedule . I know its easy to preach but my observance comes from some similar experience of my friend's mother and later by my own experience ( its difficult for sometime but not impossible in the long run)
but this is all i can say and nothing more since there is nothing more that would come up later
peace bro
To focus sometimes you need to spin hard on your soul's axis..... just don't ask how and what it means ;)
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Posted : Feb 24, 2011 16:12
Jabba,
Thank you so much for making time to clarify your view to me. I appreciate your opinion very much.
You are the kind of person i want to spend many hours of conversation with.
I do not intend to fall into a self-pity trap.
Lots of respect to you.
Until destiny permits us to meet again
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Posted : Feb 24, 2011 20:12
Dude i respect your understanding I as a human being cannot see my brothers weak ................. destiny you shall make if we want to have a conversation and a fat joint To focus sometimes you need to spin hard on your soul's axis..... just don't ask how and what it means ;)
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Posted : Feb 25, 2011 12:31
Heart Sutra
Introduction
When a person has perfected his wisdom he can see that the five classes of common sense entities have no real existence.
The emptiness of thought objects and events
The wise person sees that:
- form and no-form are two sides of the same coin, there cannot be one without the other. So with feelings, perceptions, impulses and consciousness.
- these entities, being non-existent, cannot be created or destroyed, cannot be pure or impure, cannot increase or decrease.
- the following entities do not exist of themselves but rather are creations of the unenlightened mind:
- forms, feelings, perceptions, impulses and consciousness
- sense organs, bodies and minds
- objects sensed or thought
- ignorance and the extinction of ignorance
- old age and death and the extinction of old age and death
- suffering, accumulation, annihilation
- the path to enlightenment
- attainment of perfection and non-attainment of perfection
The enlightened state
After the perfection of wisdom the mind has no hindrances or obstacles and therefore has no fear. Having gone beyond troublesome thoughts the mind is at peace.
The essence of wisdom
In the past, present and future it is the same, the person who perfects his wisdom finds peace of mind.
Open to all
It is open to all people to perfect their wisdom and to transcend suffering. All that is required is going beyond common sense. The catch phrase for this is GONE BEYOND.
Translations Used:
Edward Conze ( 1959) Buddhist Scriptures; Penguin pp162-164
Mu Soeng Sunim (1991) Heart Sutra: Ancient Buddhist Wisdom in the Light of Quantum Reality; Primary Point Press
D T Suzuki in B L Suzuki (1981) Mahayana Buddhism; Unwin
*eLliSDee*
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Posted : Feb 28, 2011 03:10
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On 2011-02-25 12:31, Outolintu wrote:
The essence of wisdom
In the past, present and future it is the same, the person who perfects his wisdom finds peace of mind.
its like in that samuri movie where tom cruse learns to sword fight and the guy tells him he minds to much. that he must empty his mind.
this is how i empty my mind
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Posted : Feb 28, 2011 16:27
whee, that is you, right?
one week after surgery? awesome!
...this is my way (pic from google)
"no one ever sweats on a plug-in" -moby
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Posted : Feb 28, 2011 22:48
yip.. thats me. my partner was taking it easy on me.
a little delayed reaction but its gtting beter.
apparently the celebrum is a part of the brain that adapts really easy. it finds new ways to control the body fairly quick. I was only to happy that find out I was able to move my toes after surgery. I was scared of a wheelchair.
you should not have shown me that.
Now i'm making plans to go climb,. i've only done it indoors. looks so much better in nature.
im making that 'ultimate things to do before you die' list.
everyone should have a list like that.
cheers.
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Posted : Mar 2, 2011 10:21
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On 2011-02-28 22:48, *eLliSDee* wrote:
you should not have shown me that.
Now i'm making plans to go climb,. i've only done it indoors. looks so much better in nature.
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Posted : Mar 2, 2011 16:03
death is inevitable
it comes to all of us
either you die before me
or i die before you
someone has to be left behind
the fact that you kind of know
the approximate time of your departure
makes it in a way all the more easier
for you to live life to the fullest
its like the tree
when it knows summer is approaching
it blossoms in spring
when it knows winter is approaching
it withers in autumn
the leaves scatter away
the dead leaves leave
the new leaves come
fresh fruits
colourful flowers
need i say more
death is progression
if you think of yourself as tree
When death comes to your doorstep, make sure you are alive
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Posted : Mar 3, 2011 11:02
It's okay to die, I just hope I get to meet you in person before either one of us does.
that is unique destination. people rarely travel up the west side. it gets kinda deserted further up.
Anyway. i'm in Canada at the moment so Im changing my citizen status unofficially to being a Worldarian. i have no nationality. only an internationally. where do i sign the papers?
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Posted on : 2011-03-02 16:03
the fact that you kind of know
the approximate time of your departure
makes it in a way all the more easier
I wonder about that sometime..
how many would choose to know? i bet more than 50%
anyway i don't know for sure. i have been given the statistics. and its 50/50 for 5years. after that, chances becomes better.
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Posted on : 2011-03-02 16:03
It's okay to die, I just hope I get to meet you in person before either one of us does.
for sure,
i appreciate all the support i get here. now that i have all this time at home i'm just online being bored. explains my increased activity on isra-trance. Its really easy for me to relate to psy-trance enthusiasts. generally open minded free thinking beings. maybe its the drugs
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Posted : Mar 3, 2011 22:56
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On 2011-03-03 16:58, *eLliSDee* wrote:
maybe its the drugs
Maybe, but I prefer to think it is the innate wonderful amazingness of each and every person, if given the right conditions in which to blossom.
