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humous
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Posted : Apr 9, 2003 15:08
To all the promoter... what are your feeling about drug testing during the party?
Miss Tick
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Posted : Apr 10, 2003 11:13

hello humous !

only promotor can answering for this topic ?

i'm teasing you but I think it's a good thing for party, people, and our environnement ... but for promotor it's a hard choice ...           www.spintwist.de
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tokyoeye


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Posted : Apr 10, 2003 14:29

I'm not promotor.....but for me....

it's a stand of hypocrisy !

That's all....

Of course..it's my own feeling !!!!







dj-panoramix
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Posted : Apr 10, 2003 15:07
to tokyoeye: if say to us that this one or that one are not good for your health is hypocrisy,i don't know what hypocrisy is !!
But it's only my opinion !!

To answer to your question humous,i'm a little promoter and i think it's really good that
somebody look what is in your drugs because they don't say you "don't take it or take it" ,they only say to you if there is a bad drug inside it, and after it's to you to do it or not !!
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go@lex
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Posted : Apr 10, 2003 16:03
Yes, i'm o.k with that !
it's important to know what you are going to take!
morph27
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Posted : Apr 10, 2003 17:32
i'm a promoter and think its a good idea, but from the authorities side - it would be very easy for them to then say - so you admit people take drugs at your party?they may shut club because of this- very extreme but it could happen.
trance culture


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Posted : Apr 10, 2003 20:45
well yes and this has happened two or three times in the last couple of months in a few clubs in paris
so we have to face it : we are under threat by official enforcement for the mere reason of cultural differences and of course drug usage wich is the topic here...
the overall opinion (wich includes the testing operatives techno+ mdm or others) is that the trance scene has little use for it as it is generally already well educated in these matters and that it is already organised in ways that prevent massive flooding of bad products on trance events (i.e no indirect structure is at work on a large scale as it can be seen on other scenes such as free parties where people are left with no other choice than to consume what is available on the spot!)
most of the testers have came to trance events and ended up partying for lack of work : what was found on offer being satisfactory and the public being aware of the rights and wrongs associated with the consumption, leaving their task to minima and thus providing them with the only thing left to do : party with us!!
so i would generally recommend to incorporate testing at your parties only if the authorities require it specifically and concentrate on the spreading of information to help people find the means to go on to their own testing moving the problem to where it actually belongs : outside the party scene itself and to the direct responsability of the concerned users
and that will separate the problem from the location and will make the parties more possible and less vulnerable wich i'm sure will profit to all trance lovers especially here in france!
           :: We are here to do it, so let's not loose time !
tokyoeye


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Posted : Apr 11, 2003 15:02
I understand the totality of your opinions !

However , the mention : No drugs in party in flyer and testing drugs in the same party ...
It is contradictory !

I wonder if the testing does not encourage to consume or to try to get the product !

I wonder to become it of our music when party are soiled by drugs!

Never noticed the causes which drug with profusion at the time of the festivals causes ???

the abuse and profusion concentrates the energy on procuration of a good product....

The testing would not support the trade of the "dealers bull shit "???

And music in all that ????

Let us privilege stands of Cd sale... that will advance better our music and the image that the others have on our movement!

See u everybody
dj-panoramix
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Posted : Apr 11, 2003 16:04
one more time to tokyoeye: I think you don't understand, if a promoter write on his flyer "no drugs please" he know that some peoples are going to use drugs but he like that peoples come to have a good time with any drugs and if there is a drug testing in this party it's to protect the peoples who take drugs and not to say "TAKE DRUGS IS COOL".When you make a party you don't want that the peoples take drugs in it ,but if one man have a problem with a bullshit xtc ,YOU are going to have problem with the police.So what's the best ?           www.inpsyde-media.com
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humous
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Posted : Apr 11, 2003 17:00
all this point of view are really interresting, hypocrisis is everywhere even in our head our mind. Drug are allways consume and sale in our party this is a fact and nobody can opposite to that. I think that testing can really be positive for us if it is made by us not by mdm or T+ (i'm totally in harmony wiz u trance culture) we are responsible in a way of what happend in our trance event so... but authorities are authorities... Time to think to a new prevention tool for our music...
dj-panoramix
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Posted : Apr 11, 2003 17:09
You're right humous !!           www.inpsyde-media.com
www.dj-panoramix.tk

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tokyoeye


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Posted : Apr 11, 2003 19:17
Dear dj-panoramix,

I understand what you want to say.

But....



Take it easy !

Tokyoeye aka cunny load
humous
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Posted : Apr 18, 2003 16:39
To trance culture

I know that you are totally opposed to the testing, but your meaning are so hard to understand.. what, you think all the ppl who are practicing testing are only doing this for get a free entrance to the party? You think testing have no interest... maybe for you and your friend but think to the other all the young ppl who are going to the party, and not well educated to the drug
what will be your reaction if you have to face an OD on your party... testing is not only put a piece of an e and look if ther is some MDMA inside it's more than that... it's education communication and prevention...
Boom!
le_lotus_604
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Posted : Apr 18, 2003 23:14
Quote:

testing is not only put a piece of an e and look if ther is some MDMA inside it's more than that... it's education communication and prevention...



U're right, there is a nice crew in the states doing both testing and education (very important for teens)
http://dancesafe.org/
do we have the same in France ?

btw, what's techno+
humous
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Posted : Apr 19, 2003 14:08
thank's lotus i didn't know that crew... i gonna check it...in france it's the beginning we are so late comparing to other EU states such as belgium germany netherland... but we will try to do our best... we need time, volontiers, and new laws...

Techno+ what do you want to know about them?
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